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CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
3. Boo. Hiss.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jul 2020


We are going to put an anti-choice, retired republican on our national stage, during our convention? We have several young, energetic Democrats who deserve that space/time more than Kasich.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
4. I understand the strategy behind it, but I just don't think having Kasich speak at the Democratic
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jul 2020

Convention is the best way to get republicans to vote for Biden


calguy

(5,295 posts)
5. Anything that helps defeat Trump is fine by me
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jul 2020

We all have a common enemy right now and we all need to join forces to defeat trump. We have seen over the past week how low trump is willing to go, and we still have 4 months to go. I personally welcome every and all republicans who join us to defeat trump. We'll then have 4 years in control to push our ideas and agenda.
At the end of those four years we'll once again be battling Kasich and the Lincoln Project folks in the arena of ideologies. That's the way our country is. We battle each other every four years. Sometimes we win, sometimes they win. If trump manages to stay in power, we just might never have a fair election again, ever.
So I welcome all republicans who see the evil of trump and are willing to join us in defeating him.

KPN

(15,638 posts)
8. I definitely don't like it. I understand the strategy, but to be honest, I distrust what may
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

follow after-the-fact. In simple terms, our tent isn't and should not be that big. I'm sure many here will disagree, but bi-partisanship is what brought us to the edge of the age of tRump. I don't see how it can reverse the trends that helped bring us to that edge.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
11. Totally agree.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jul 2020

Seems like we've tried this strategy before—reaching across the aisle. It only works with retired repubs. The ones active in Congress will tell our side to fuck the fuck off. They will obstruct Biden every bit as much as they obstructed Obama. We need congressional majorities enough that we don't need to work with the other side. And if we get them, we need to go BOLD and seriously fix some shit that has needed fixing for a long time. OR WE WILL BE BACK HERE AGAIN, GUARANTEED.

irisblue

(32,932 posts)
14. Kasich is still popular in the "Ruby Necklaces" around Columbus
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jul 2020

His old CD, the Ohio12th, which is maroon now IMO, the suburbs around Dayton, Cincy, Cleveland and some of those last time Trump voters in Youngstown & NE Ohio.

Run on sentence sorry

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
10. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' is what comes to mind.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jul 2020

If he persuades some old school conservatives who are uncomfortable with trump* to cross over on the ticket and vote for Joe, then fine. But he is not to be mistaken for an ally.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
13. It'll be fine
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jul 2020

Our nation is exhausted from the CONSTANT division. Any hope for a return to some sort of civility will be grasped onto like a lifeboat. Don’t over think this. The Biden campaign is pretty savvy and I’m sure Obama is giving his feedback on this sort of thing as well.

I know Dems tend to be a neurotic bunch (at least I know I am), but my advice is to avoid getting pulled into constant “what if”-s as that only drains critical energy we’re going to need to win this battle.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
17. And Kasich is part of the group that brought us said Constant Division. PBO reached across
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jul 2020

the aisle time after time and it taught everyone in the US is bipartisanship = capitulation to Party of Putin. We bring goodwill and hold our hands out in friendship, we get spat upon and called commies, socialists and whatever the keyword of the day is. We've been here before and lost, big, on all fronts and look at what it has brought us.

No, just no. It's actions like this that turn off good would be Democrats.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
18. I'll concentrate on getting out the vote
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:52 AM
Jul 2020

Not hand wringing about something I have little control over.


Besides, Americans seem to have the attention span of a gnat so will it really matter anyway?

I just don’t buy into the “everyone else is our enemy” BS. I’m a solid Dem and I hope we get a super majority in 2020. That being said I don’t believe in one party having a long term domination of power. Power corrupts. So I’d prefer to have the GOP become more moderate—shades of Eisenhower— and for true decency and compromise to enter our politics again.

Bluethroughu

(5,141 posts)
16. I'm thinking this is a Republicon takeover of the
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jul 2020

Democratic party. He is part of the problem, not part of the solution! He helped ruin his party with their right wing no compromise politics, if the Democratic party allows him on their stage, they've allowed the Democratic party the false equivalency and one party system narrative.

Don't do it!

Don't sink to their level, if they don't like their party then fix it now, not through ours.

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