This is a picture of stupid fuckheads and assholes in a bar in Minnesota opened in defiance

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Last edited Wed Dec 23, 2020, 01:42 PM - Edit history (3)

Sorry about the title of my post, but I can't help it, they really do look like stupid fuckheads and assholes.
Right-click on the picture and open in a new tab or new window for a much larger version to really see their expressions.

Minnesota bars' licenses suspended for defying restrictions, December 17, 2020 3:11 p.m.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/12/17/state-moves-to-enforce-walz-bar-order

This one has a great video of it which is even more packed looking. Incredibly more packed looking.
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/12/16/covid-in-minnesota-some-businesses-openly-defy-gov-walzs-exec-order-were-standing-up/
Starting at 0:35-0:40, then an even worse shot at 0:46

Here's a YouTube. Don't be fooled by this initial picture. See just 1 second in for the mob scene

It's of course all about FREEDOM that is guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States (I'm sorry I was effectively drafted during the Viet Nam War, so I learned a LOOOOONNNNNG time ago its not all about freedom), but some fuckheads over at the resistance sites really believe they should be allowed to do whatever they please because of the Constitution etc. etc..

And they say if you are a scaredy cat and afraid of a disease with more than a 99% survival rate, then stay at home, nobody is forcing you to go to a bar. (No thought given about how they might in turn spread it to vulnerable populations -- 65% of the people who have died from Covid so far in MN were in nursing homes or assisted living facilities and the like).

As for the 99+% survival rate, I was going to argue with them about that, but if the CDC is right that for every case that is reported, there are another 7 that are not, then yeah, the 99+% survival rate is correct. Still, we've lost more people then World War II or we're close to that, so isn't that enough? And it doesn't count the survivors with horrific damage to various organs and their cognitive functions (Thom Hartmann was reading a study yesterday on that, really awful stuff).

More photos made at the same time (well worth the click). I have to laugh at some media reports that "many not wearing a mask". NONE are.

https://www.facebook.com/startribune/photos/pcb.10161336686943018/10161336665168018/

Click the arrow on the right side of the picture (and midway between top and bottom) to see 2 more photos.

I STILL say they look like stupid fuckheads and assholes.

[progree]

2. What on earth are you talking about?

Didn't see anywhere where I claimed valor. I don't see anywhere where I said I was shilling for communism and the Viet Cong.

And no, the "freedom" to spread disease in a pandemic and murder fellow Americans at World War II levels is not one of the freedoms that are the pillar of this nation.

reyno1919 (1 post) 1. real vet
Its beyond frustrating to see another so called vet claim valor in a series of paragraphs decrying the freedoms that are the pillar of this nation. You don't see us Iraq vet denouncing the American people for the radical Islam of Al-Qaida, why do Vietnam vets so commonly shill for the communism of the Viet Cong?

And yes, I'm a real vet.

Now go fuck off, troll.

[progree]

6. How is my ideology extreme?

The reason I invoked my veteran status, is that its an example in America under our Constitution where we're not free to do anything we want, that we have responsibilities and obligations as well that limit our personal freedoms and calls for deep sacrifices.

"we don't use that service to denounce how the American people use it."

Spreading diseases that have killed more Americans than World War II in just 10 months is something that should be denounced by all patriots, whether veterans or not.

[Roy Rolling]

18. Go Get 'Em

I’m at the stage I report trolls on Twitter every time they respond. Fuck them, they rely on our polite acceptance of other viewpoints to sneak their messages in.

No more. Well done, give them no quarter.

[Trueblue Texan]

22. exactly right!

I just got here to see this thread, but they absolutely DO rely on our politeness to get away with their lies and misinformation. Time we call them out on it with all the consistency we can!

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29. Thanks, I appreciate that. I've finally gotten into it at Havens Garden, one of the

resistor restaurant (and bar?) websites. They are located in Lynd, MN, in the southwest corner (almost) of the state, southwest of Marshall.
https://www.facebook.com/havensgardenmn

There are a few of us fighting back with data.

[sfstaxprep]

4. So Glad I Was Here For Your First Post

You like pizza?

[progree]

8. Shucks, I was hoping to find out what it was about my ideology that is so extreme,

or whatever in particular was bugging him/her, but this person doesn't seem like one of the most rational visitors we've ever had, so it would have probably been an exercise in futility.

[progree]

16. I wonder what his attitude is towards Trump who said veterans are losers and suckers

and why would anyone sign up etc. etc. He certainly sounded like he might be a Trumper.

[sfstaxprep]

3. It Just Occurred To Me

If these Assholes are so desperate to gather in a bar without masks, why don't we just LOCK THEM ALL IN for a couple of weeks?

Let them test out whether the virus is in the room, and let it do it's thing.

And if only their cell phones and lines could be blocked, so they weren't able to call out for an ambulance, and take up valuable hospital space from far more deserving victims.

[hotdamn00]

7. But they can't smoke inside the bar

because the Department of Health said so.

[luv2fly]

9. Can't, and don't!

Go figure.

[progree]

13. I haven't thought of that one before, that's a good one

Or drive drunk, or not wear seat belts or wear motorcycle helmets (in states that have motorcycle helmet laws, Minnesota doesn't), or drive a car with missing lights etc.

[dflprincess]

31. I would bet most of this crowd was among those who whined and moaned about mandatory seat belts

laws taking away their free-dums. I'd also bet that quite a few of them still don't use them all the time. (And still drive drunk.)

[progree]

32. yup, with a cigarette in one hand and cellphone in the other. /nt

[luv2fly]

10. No need to apologise

They are stupid fuckheads and assholes.

[mdbl]

11. and Morans

can't forget that one

[backroadblast]

12. alcoholics?

my brother is one, he wouldn't go to bar, but would drive 50 miles thru ice to get the stuff.

[certainot]

14. dumbfuck dittoheads. guy dying of lung cancer who told millions that smoking

doesn't cause cancer told them covid is a hoax and they believe him.......

hartman reads off a list of COVID related health horrors on 1 station for every 20 stations that carry Limbaugh and hannity, who have been telling them it's a hoax

and i'lll bet one or more local rw radio blowhards cheer on those owners to further endear themselves to the dittohead nation

[Ligyron]

23. Right once again.

Ignoring RW hate radio has been the D's biggest mistake for sure.

We laughed at Trump coming down the escalator, "HA! He has to pay people to come listen to him so the room won't appear empty. This will never catch on or go anywhere". Me too, I laughed.

But the quote attributed to P.T. Barnum was correct.

[ouija]

15. I say let Darwinism take its course

[Locrian]

17. morons

"You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons."

(and yes I know there are smart people in those states - just referring to these guys).

[Soxfan58]

19. Looks like

A comorbidity convention!
We are seeing Darwin theory playing out!

[Roy Rolling]

20. It's sad

Most of those people are hopeless drug addicts of alcohol. They use “freedom” as an excuse to hide their addiction.

So, yeah, they’re assholes. They have an addiction that needs feeding every minute and they take enormous risks to satisfy it. And in the process, make those around them victims of an addict’s behavior.

Alcohol outlets are essential to an addict. Otherwise, there’d be protests that all the libraries and bookstores are closed.

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28. I don't think alcoholism has much to do with it - they can buy at the numerous liquor stores

It's all about demonstrating their ideology and stupidity and a don't-give-a-fuck attitude towards those more vulnerable that they may (and in many cases will) spread it to either directly or through a chain of subsequent infections.

Speaking of the vulnerable, in MN, 65% of Covid deaths so far have been in long-term care and assisted living facilities.

[sinkingfeeling]

21. Do you think if Covid was killing a larger percentage of

white people they would act differently? Since almost all the GOP reps and WH staff have escaped serious medical trauma, do they believe it's just the flu? Do they just accept long term health issues aren't going to impact them in the future?

[AllyCat]

26. No. They are okay with it killing more POC because they are racists

But killing more white people wouldn’t matter because they just don’t care about others.

[Trueblue Texan]

24. This picture provides good evidence of why the administration...

...is withholding vaccine. They did this with PPE too, remember? This is the way the logic goes regarding withholding the vaccine: Only the Dems are going to be upset by it. Half of Republicans don't believe the virus is dangerous and more than half of them don't plan to take it. Who's left? the Dems. Owning the Dems. That's what it's all about. They are murderers. They should be held to account.

[PatrickforO]

25. Instead of 'freedom,' maybe the term should be free-dumb.

Seriously, the greatest generation that fought the Second World War must be spinning in its grave over these whiny little snowflakes who are so selfish that they are willing to allow others to die rather than be inconvenienced in any little way.

These people don't even seem to be Americans. Or maybe they have forgotten how.

[Owl]

27. Assholes all of them.

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30. I don't believe this. Havens Garden says she's being threatened with $250/day fine

Thank you to all the wonderful ladies who came to pray with me before and during my hearing. Court update: I’m not going to jail. WOOHOO!! They are threatening to fine me $250 everyday that I am open starting tomorrow. We will be open tonight from 8pm-11pm with live music.
Our hours: Monday-Thursday 10:30am-3pm and every Friday from 8pm-11pm for an event.

Is this the only enforcement there will be? (She doesn't have a liquor license since October 2019 and I don't know for sure whether she is serving alcohol, but does have a busy bar area according to some videos she's posted. Southwest Health & Human Services rescinded her food license but a vote of the board of that organization a couple or so days later gave her license back).

With a GoFundme page and right-wing media including nationally highlighting her place as a great cause for FREEDUMB, $250/day should be easily manageable for them.

Judge Sara Grewing of the Ramsey County District Court is the one that ruled against her yesterday or was it the 16th.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20429833/62-cv-20-5691-order-for-temporary-injunction.pdf

I don't know if or how I can search the court website for anything that indicates possible $250/day fine, it looks daunting or impossible to search and even less likely to find that info.

Oh, to be clear, Havens Garden in Lynd is a different restaurant / bar? then the one pictured in the OP (that's Alibi's in Lakeville)

[progree]

33. Another great picture of stupid fuckheads and assholes

6 suspects indicted in alleged conspiracy to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, MPR, 12/17/20
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/12/17/npr-6-suspects-indicted-for-conspiracy-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer

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34. That bar is currently closed and is following the restraining order

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https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/12/22/virtual-hearing-held-for-lakeville-bar-that-defied-governors-order/

Virtual Hearing Held For Lakeville Bar That Defied Governor’s Order, 113p 12/22/20

A virtual hearing was held Tuesday morning for a Lakeville bar that opened last week in defiance of Gov. Tim Walz’s executive order halting indoor dining.

Last Wednesday, Alibi Drinkery was packed with customers standing shoulder-to-shoulder, blatantly in defiance of the governor’s order in response to a surge in COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

At the virtual hearing Tuesday morning, it was learned that attorney Michael Padden, who is representing the bar’s co-owner, Lisa Zarza, filed a brief in the case. Judge Jerome Abrams said he had not yet had time to read the brief, but said the state could reply as soon as Tuesday evening.

Alibi Drinkery is currently closed and is following the restraining order. It was one of a number of restaurants and bars that Ellison sued for defying the governor’s executive order. The establishments moved to open last week after it was learned the restrictions would be expended until Jan. 11.

Another hearing on Alibi Drinkery is slated for Wednesday morning.

Surprising - the Havens Garden owner (Larvita McFarquhar) visited Alibi's and their owner (Lisa Zarza), video recorded a big rah rah of defiance on Saturday (the link below works, just click the first part of it).

https://www.facebook.com/havensgardenmn/videos/3332070423582457/?__cft__[0]=AZWr790eAwTRpW7T483YqZmzwzjorPMb4PdooHugNTp2gqcFuq-TLeSmYZj0XM_EVQieMt9tw9k20lO2GC4OpKjZAvLVopnhyPlHe_zVleu9UJAVHW1TUTdMrB7At9cfdg8p4FhQLA3PClsZqKOdv9dWrQjt5XA7_k7k74Q49oojnA&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R

The blonde lady with the long ponytail, Lisa Zarza, is the owner of Alibi's. The black lady with the gray cap is Larvita McFarquhar, the owner of Haven's Garden.

So am surprised the owner of Alibi's folded like a cheap suit. After all that endless blather about FREEDOM and THIS IS AMERICA and THE CONSTITUTION and yada. (not in this particular video, but in others).

Latest posting on Alibi's Facebook Page as of 12/23 11am
https://www.facebook.com/Alibi-Drinkery-135111020497320/

12/22 10a posting On the advice of counsel in regards to our court appearance today, we will be closed today. Please check back tomorrow. Thank you for all your love, support and prayers. Please keep us in your prayers as we go to court at 10am. For updates, follow wcco.

Gee, it only takes a moment to write and post a couple of sentences, perhaps with a link.

Haven's Garden is still open as of Dec 22. UPDATE: is open as of 1148 am Dec 23. and will be Monday thru Friday indefinitely, including this Christmas week. Because FREEDOM. And nobody is forcing you to come, so if you're afraid, stay in your mother's basement (according to various posters on the FB page, in fairness not her, she hasn't said anything like that. But anyway no thought about who the people who do go to super-spreader events like this might spread the disease to in the community)

I added more photos to the OP:

More photos made at the same time (well worth the click). I have to laugh at some media reports that "many not wearing a mask". NONE are.

https://www.facebook.com/startribune/photos/pcb.10161336686943018/10161336665168018/

Click the arrow on the right side of the picture (and midway between top and bottom) to see 2 more photos.

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35. A kick: I added some more info and 3 photos to the post above, #34. /nt