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RainDog

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Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:37 PM Jul 2012

Breaking Bad Season 5 - Speculation and Spoilers

Last edited Tue Jul 17, 2012, 07:40 AM - Edit history (3)

This post contains some possible spoilers and, no doubt, a lot of useless speculation. Join in if you'd like.







so, speculation below....

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Breaking Bad Season 5 - Speculation and Spoilers (Original Post) RainDog Jul 2012 OP
Edit to add link to new clip RainDog Jul 2012 #1
New Clip RainDog Jul 2012 #3
some of the best music moments from previous eps - deleted RainDog Jul 2012 #2
Seasons 1-4 Recap - made by a fan RainDog Jul 2012 #4
How Much Time Has Passed On Breaking Bad? (all spoiler-y) RainDog Jul 2012 #5
raindog steelcity412 Jul 2012 #6
welcome to DU! RainDog Jul 2012 #7
Cranston talks about Season 5 (spoilers) RainDog Jul 2012 #8
AMC - A Look Ahead - Season 5 RainDog Jul 2012 #9
Comic Con Breaking Bad Poster RainDog Jul 2012 #10
new promo (spoilers) RainDog Jul 2012 #11
Walt at school - pre-Breaking Bad (no spoilers) :) RainDog Jul 2012 #12
heh Ohio Joe Jul 2012 #13
isn't he great? RainDog Jul 2012 #14
"Magnets, bitch" (more spoilers) RainDog Jul 2012 #15
Ep. 2 Sneak Peeks - AMC - Spoilers RainDog Jul 2012 #16
Hank's Blog is back RainDog Jul 2012 #17
Ep. 3 Sneak Peek RainDog Jul 2012 #18
Hank's View of the Blue Sky (spoilers, of course) RainDog Aug 2012 #19
Wow. That is such an awesome post! sofa king Sep 2012 #31
Thanks! RainDog Sep 2012 #32
Last Night's Episode ("Dead Freight")........ Paladin Aug 2012 #20
here's a promo for the next episode RainDog Aug 2012 #21
I'm still in shock. That episode blew my mind. They warned us, but I never dreamed... Stardust Aug 2012 #22
The way the entire episode was set up was so great RainDog Aug 2012 #23
Refresh my memory, please: When have they been in another scene together? Stardust Aug 2012 #24
skyler white, yo RainDog Aug 2012 #25
Of course! That seems like decades ago now. Thanks for the refresh. nt Stardust Aug 2012 #26
Episode 7 Promo (Spoilers) RainDog Aug 2012 #27
A great scene aikoaiko Aug 2012 #30
Well... OswegoAtheist Aug 2012 #28
SPOILER - Ep. 8 preview RainDog Aug 2012 #29

RainDog

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1. Edit to add link to new clip
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:32 PM - Edit history (1)

none of the film in this one is new except for the Mike remark and the last moment when Walt tells Saul they're done when he says they're done. Everything else is from previous seasons.



And one with Walt and Skylar.



EDIT: I can't embed this one - but this is a clip from Season 5. It seems to take place just before the scene with Walt and Skylar, above.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/07/02/breaking-bad-season-5-clip/

RainDog

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2. some of the best music moments from previous eps - deleted
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:18 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:11 PM - Edit history (1)

cause of the long load time on the thread.

RainDog

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5. How Much Time Has Passed On Breaking Bad? (all spoiler-y)
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:19 AM
Jul 2012

Last edited Tue Jul 17, 2012, 07:43 AM - Edit history (2)

http://www.vulture.com/2011/07/breaking_bad_calendar.html

The link above covers the first 3 seasons.

Anyone want to figure out how much time passed in season 4? The general rule seems to be that each season takes about three months.

Season 1

So - Hank was dx'd with cancer

He goes with his DEA bro-in-law to watch a bust, sees Jesse, finds him later and threatens to turn him in unless they cook meth together. Walt steals equipment from the chemistry dept. at the high school where he teaches.

Jesse takes Walt's money to buy a Winnebago and blows most of it on strippers and champagne with Badger, Skinny Pete and Combo. But Combo helps him find a cheap one.

3 weeks later he's cooking meth in the desert in a Winnebago.
All the rest of this stems from the start of his meth work. Add three weeks to get the actual time that has passed.

1 week after that he's killed two people (one in the desert, one in the basement)

Hank finds a mask in the desert near a dealer's abandoned car. He traces it back to the high school. He finds some meth that's incredibly pure.

3 weeks after he started cooking meth, he's blowing up Tuco's office and has shaved his head to start his transformation to Heisenberg.

A month and a half after Walt started cooking meth, he sold his first big batch (made with the warehouse chemical theft) to Tuco.

The next week Walt and Jesse decide to poison Tuco with ricin - because he's following them - and he's batshit crazy.

Season 2

About a week later, Tuco kidnaps Walt and Jess to take them to Mexico.

2 months and a few days after Walt started cooking meth, Hank killed Tuco (after Walt and Jesse tried to poison him - and met Hector) Hank and the DEA, we found out, had an informant in Tuco's organization - Krazy 8 - who's been missing for, oh, a couple of weeks.

Hank interrogates Jesse about Tuco (because Hank found Tuco while looking for Jesse while looking for "disappeared" Walt - who, with Jesse, was being held hostage by Tuco.)

2 months and a week or two... Jesse moves in next door to Jane. He and Walt start cooking again and develop a distribution network made up of Badger, Skinny Pete and Combo.

Combo, working in Gus territory, gets the long goodbye.

2 months and a week or two... Walt and Jesse meet Saul. He knows a guy...who knows a guy...who knows a guy.

3 months after he started cooking meth, Walt meets up with Gus to find a distributor.

I assume that, around this time, Gale is receiving equipment and he samples Walt's meth and tells Gus it's better than he (Gale) can do.

4 months after he started cooking meth, Walt makes his first sale to Gus and Skylar gives birth. Jane dies.

Nearly 5 months after Walt started cooking meth, Skylar finds out. She tries to kick him out when Holly is 7 weeks old. Walt won't go, but he stops cooking. Shortly after, she starts boinking Ted in retaliation. She recovered from childbirth pretty quickly...just saying.

Jane's father sends Walt a teddy bear.

Season 3

Soon after, Jesse goes into rehab and that's where we find him a few weeks later.

And Tuco's cousins start the trek from Mexico to kill Walt because Hector wants revenge (they arrive about three months after Tuco was killed.) Gus puts them off. Then gives them permission to go after Hank, instead, after a month.

5 or so months after Walt started cooking meth, he is working with Gale in Gus' fancy lab.

A little over 5 months after Walt started cooking meth, Hank figures out Jesse owns the "alleged" meth van. Hank beats the bejesus out of Jesse...gets suspended... And Hank gets shot by Tuco's cousins.

...and Walt asks Jesse to come back to work with him in the lab. Gale leaves... maybe he goes to Thailand for some karaoke.

The Federales go after one of the cartel leaders - or who knows who that was, exactly. Own goal?

Jesse finds out who killed Combo after he attends rehab after hours.... And goes after them. Walt tries out the 4wd on the Aztec.

Jesse goes into hiding cause Gus wants him dead.

Gus asks Gale if he can do the cook. Walt decides to make himself indispensable. But Jesse has to make it happen. Gus wants them both dead, now.

"Major Tom" makes his last blast off.

Season 4

About 6 months after Walt started cooking meth, and about one month after he's been cooking for Gus, Gus starts monitoring his every move. On camera.

Jesse starts a three-day party, and then another one.

And into the 6th month -

Hank is in PT at home. Collecting rocks... minerals! Marie starts to pick up information about houses for sale. Hank's old friend gives him Gale's lab notes.

The cartel is attacking Los Pollos Hermanos trucks.

Mike gets Jesse out of the house party.

The cartel wants a sit down. It doesn't sit right with Gus.

Some guy (must be related to Dewey Crowe...) just wants TUCKER!

So, now at about the 7th month mark -

Walt moves back in with Skylar and they buy the car wash after they tell Hank and Marie about Walt's gambling addiction. Walt finds out about Hank's investigation of Gale's murder.

The cartel sends a sniper to say hello. Gus agrees to their demand.

Walt convinces Jesse to put ricin in Gus' food after attempts to go to Gus' house to shoot him, or go to Los Pollos to shoot him don't work out.

Jesse goes to Mexico with Mike and Gus. Gus takes out the rest of the cartel leaders for a nice bottle of Tequila.

Ted tells Skylar he's being audited by the IRS. Skylar buys time with the IRS. Saul invents Aunt Birgid. "Aunt Birgid" visits Ted.

In the meantime, Hank has figured out that Gale was a vegetarian but liked Colonel Sanders Fring (or whatever his real name is.)
And Hank starts surveillance of Gus' businesses. Luckily google maps didn't show Walt and Jesse's cars parked there everyday. Gale got his equipment from Madrigal. Madrigal also owns Los Pollos Hermanos.

So into 8 months...

Ted writes a check to the IRS and goes skating. At least he's not kiting.

Walt begs Jesse not to cook without him because Walt and Gus just don't work well together and have a problem solving conflicts. Walt doesn't want to get laid out.

Jesse just isn't that into Walt with the months of insults and hurt and the big mess that Walt brought into Jesse's life when Walt threatened to turn Jesse over to the police those many months ago. But he won't agree to getting rid of Walt with Gus.

Hank has gotten too close to Gus. Gus' story is good - but inconsistent with his i.d. as a DEA supporter. Hank can't make his case with his co-workers but he's not going to stop looking at Gus.

Gus tells Walt he's going to kill Hank and if Walt interferes, Gus will kill all of Walt's family. Walt goes to Saul for a new identity. He finds out Skylar used their funds to pay off the IRS for Ted so Walt doesn't have the money to buy a new identity for his family.

Walt tells Saul to tip off the DEA about the hit on Hank. Marie insists Walt's family join them. Saul tells Jesse that Gus has threatened Walt's family.

Brock gets sick and Jesse assumes it's because of ricin. First he thinks Walt did it, but Walt reminds Jesse that Gus was the one willing to use kids. So, they put a bomb under Gus' car. Gus was there to tell Jesse to get back to work because he can't afford the down time on an expensive operation. But Gus' fringey sense went off with his talk to Jesse about Brock's poisoning and he avoided the trap Jesse and Walt had set for him.

Walt visits Hector and talks about old times.

Tyrus sees Hector meet with Hank - Tyrus has been tailing Hank. Jesse gets kidnapped and taken back to the lab to work.

Gus decides that today might just be the day after all.

Hector agrees.

Walt goes to the lab to get Jesse. They set the lab on fire.

Jesse finds out Brock is going to survive - he was poisoned by a common garden plant, not ricin (which is actually from another common garden plant, too, but not when it's processed and packed into a cigarette.)

Walt checks in with his family. Gus is gone.

The White family garden is lovely this time of year.

So... we're somewhere around the 8/9 month mark.

EDIT to add: with a spoiler - Apparently season 5 starts with Hank's 52 birthday - so that would seem to mean that earlier in season 5 - all the PT time and Jesse going off with Mike and Walt cooking alone took place over a few months to get to the 12 month mark in the show. oops. make that a flash forward to one year from the beginning of Season 5.




steelcity412

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6. raindog
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jul 2012

i didn't agree with u at first that ted is dead but then looked up ted on IMDB AND apparently it says 2009-2011 which means he is not in season 5 so idk......gilligan says that this season is very top secret fake actors fake stand ins fake scripts and scenes so everything i been reading about new actors joining the show and some of the videos i seen could all be bullshit.. but i know this mike and pinkmans relationship will blossom .. walt is barely in the first 8 ep. cause heisenberg is taking over Walt's soul faster and faster and everyone is scared of him his wife now knows he is a murderer pinkmans afraid thats why mike tels pinkman to watch out for himself and himself only.. i think hank will put all the pieces together of all the lies and suspicions walt has been telling hank and it will be like a montage but knowing breaking bad hank could just walk in on walt carrying a big ass box of blue meth.. but the conclusion of hank and walt colliding is going to happen their nearing the home stretch.. ( i found all this stuff out in the new tv guide)

I also believe that season 5 will be alot like season one not exactly but seeing how season 2,3 and 4 were about gus and now that story is over cause hes dead as fuck lord only knows where this season will head it will be like a brand new story, they really could have ended it after 4 but i heard the writers are coming up with or came up with some unbelievable stories for these characters. they haven't wrote the finale 8 episodes yet but u know what I'm saying... The shows the shit cause walt was a normal ass dude then just slowly transformed into a villain not transforming into a good guy and i keep forgetting that Walt's the bad guy in the show

RainDog

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7. welcome to DU!
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:03 PM
Jul 2012

and thanks for your take on things.

Yeah, I thought it was pretty clear Ted was dead b/c Huell said you can't account for an act of god... lol.

The two actors I mentioned have been mentioned on various big name sites as people joining the cast. I just speculated on their possible roles... but maybe those two are head fakes as well. Gus was supposedly married but we never saw his wife. Lydia might be that person, too.

I never saw any script, though, when I looked for information about this season, I did see that someone mentioned a fake script out there.

The thing I have loved so much about Hank and Walt is that Hank has this idea of who Walt is - a loser nerd - and, because of that, he doesn't connect Walt. At the same time, Hank has shown he's a good detective, so I could very well imagine him having an OMG moment when he realizes Walt was the one who could give Jesse information about his private life to call him off from the Winnebago, for instance. In his corner, Walt has saved Hank's life and paid for his medical bills.

...but, yeah, I would assume the writers will pay off all this cat and mouse between Walt and Hank near the end of the show. How they'll do it - I dunno. I would love it if Walt saved Hank's life b/c the dirty person in the DEA goes after Hank - that would surely mess with Hank's sense of right and wrong.

I hope the show gets back to more of the "fun with chemistry" parts of the earlier seasons.

The story arc of Walt's association with Gus was interesting - but "Crawlspace," the third to the last episode in Season 4, to me, was just... incredible. It was so good I wanted to say "Thank you" to the people who made it for affirming my faith in humanity that such great drama with such black humor could co-exist.

Some things I wonder about, as far as tying up the show - I don't think it's necessary for Jesse to ever learn about Walt's involvement with Jane or Brock - but I wonder if he will. I also wonder about Gus' past in Chile and how tight he was with the fascist regime of Pinochet - I really do like to think of him as Colonel Fring - since Don Eladio brought up "who" Gus was - I assume that's something the writers will at least explain enough to satisfy curiosity.

So you think it's going to be Jesse and Mike vs. Walt? I've always wondered if Mike is going to be i.d.ed as "Heisenberg" as a way to let Walt walk - but, at this point, Walt seems to enjoy the adrenaline of being a bad guy too much and has his ego invested in his criminal ability - the clip, above, with Walt Jr. is interesting to me b/c you can see Walt's gears turning - Hank is going to be the big hero - Walt has to, again, be the goober - and pride is Walt's big downfall - well, that and his incredibly tone deaf people skills.

The "clues" to the future that the story has planted seem to be about how Walt will develop a distribution network since he "owns" the southwest market and a lot of the Mexican one. The chemists are still in the lab in Mexico (initially I thought they were discovered, but maybe not) - they know who Jesse is - some of the cartel is still there and the vacuum that exists because of the loss of the leaders will be filled by another cartel. But that would take some time, it seems, and that timeframe is outside of the time frame of the show.

Thanks for adding your perspective on things. I can't wait to see how the last 16 eps will play out. Well, I have to wait, but can't wait anyway.

RainDog

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8. Cranston talks about Season 5 (spoilers)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:40 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1689073/breaking-bad-jesse-pinkman-jesse-plemons.jhtml

"Now, we're together. We're cohesive. We're working it out," said Cranston. "And we're starting a new endeavor."

What kind of new endeavor, you ask? Cranston explained: "We start cooking again. Walt figures out a very clever way to disguise it. Obviously we don't have the means or wherewithal to make another super lab, but we do it like a poor man's super lab ... and in so doing, we need to expand our partnership."

Expansion of the partnership means expansion of the "Breaking Bad" cast, including a role for newcomer Jesse Plemons. Best known for playing unwitting killer of rapists Landry Clarke on "Friday Night Lights," Plemons joins Walt and Jesse's crew as Todd, described by Cranston as "a wild card."

...As for Walt's other new recruits, Cranston stayed appropriately cryptic: "There's someone else who comes into play [with the partnership] too, who you'll be familiar with." So place your bets now, "Breaking Bad" fans — which familiar face is about to join Walter White and the Jesses on the dark side?


more at the link...

RainDog

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9. AMC - A Look Ahead - Season 5
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jul 2012


okay, so new speculation based upon this clip -

below...


these might be spoilers...


I'm now guessing that Hank or the police get Gus' computer from the Los Pollos office and Walt and Jesse break into the police evidence lab to steal the computer, based on a couple of scenes in this video.

I'm also wondering if the junk yard guy is going to be part of their operation - maybe the abandoned building they use to cook meth is at the junkyard.

I'm ALSO wondering if Gus is still hanging on, even with his huge injuries - that's a stretch, tho.

Also, more spoiler-y info via IMDB-

Gus' original meth lab partner is in the first episode. I assume that's in flashback since I sincerely doubt he survived Hector's headshot.

The second episode is supposedly named "Madrigal" and a woman named "Nanny Madrigal" is listed as part of the cast.

Badger shows up in episode 3. Yeah!

RainDog

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10. Comic Con Breaking Bad Poster
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jul 2012

from this link: http://tvline.com/2012/07/07/breaking-bad-season-5-poster-comic-con/

so, maybe the junk man guess is right - but they don't cook in an abandoned warehouse - they cook in an underground unused toxic waste dump or something.



RainDog

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12. Walt at school - pre-Breaking Bad (no spoilers) :)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:00 PM
Jul 2012

Uncovered!! Footage of Walter White on playground duty at a local elementary school! Looks like he used a pseudonym before Heisenberg... this time passing himself off as someone named "Hall."

hmmm.

RainDog

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15. "Magnets, bitch" (more spoilers)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:14 AM
Jul 2012

while waiting for tomorrow/tonight's season opener, here's an article from the panel discussion of brba at Comic Con and the trailer that was presented there.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/07/14/cci-breaking-bad-creator-cast-look-ahead-to-unsettling-season/

Asked whether viewers will see the Germans this season, Gilligan acknowledged, “Yeah, the Germans are going to play a role this season. They are the company that bankrolled Gus, a silent partner, perhaps. It’s going to open up the world a bit.”

Cranston hinted that season premiere, which airs Sunday at 10 p.m. ET/PT, will be more intellectual than violent, and funnier than most episodes they’ve done. “There’s a lot of dark humor in this season that we were not reaching for particularly, but it’s there,” he said.


I'm happy to hear that - the convolutions that are part of unintended consequences and the best laid plans gone wrong are my favorite parts of the show. While people go on about Fring's death at the end of Season 4, the best part of the Season, to me, was Hank's investigation and Skylar's attempt to fix a problem that created a worse problem - better than the growing show down b/t Walt and Gus, imo - but they were all entwined.

Speaking to where the final 16 episodes will take us, Cranston said, “There is an expansion of our group. We have to let in a few more people to our secret. And as the saying goes, you’re only as strong as your weakest link. And that becomes very apparent, at about midway through this season, where we have some issues.”

Asked where there would be any clues early in the season as to where the series is headed, Gilligan said, “It will be right there in plain sight, in the first few moments of the episode.” Cranston added, “You saw a glimpse of something, in the preview we showed, from the inside of the trunk of a car. Yeah.”


RainDog

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16. Ep. 2 Sneak Peeks - AMC - Spoilers
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 07:06 AM
Jul 2012

Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:41 AM - Edit history (2)

edit to post you tube version



Looks like this sets up Hank to be able to look at Walt.

Again, I wonder if Hank's boss is dirty and is setting up Walt - but probably not.

This episode also, it seems, introduces the financial group Gus was working with from Germany.

I sort of see ep. 1 as settling business from last season - now we'll get into who or what Walt is facing this season - other than his familiar, Hank.

Every season Walt moves up the criminal food chain.

And here's a second promo for the 2nd episode.

RainDog

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17. Hank's Blog is back
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jul 2012
http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/2012/07/hanks-blog-skunk-scientist.php

"Ding, dong, the wicked witch is definitely dead. If you watch the news, you know what I'm talking about. If you don't, go Google "nursing home" and "blows the hell up" and you'll see what I mean. And who has two thumbs and was the only one without his head up his ass about a certain criminal/fast-food magnate? THIS guy. I know; I'm gloating and it's bad form. I don't even care. If you're the guy who everyone thinks is crying wolf, it feels damn good when a big hairy wolf shows up and bites everyone right in the face. Damn good.

Well, mostly. I mean, yeah, right now my office is all lined up to kiss my white ass, but I have to admit it's not sitting like I thought it would. I thought it'd be like getting one of those astronaut parades when you come back from the moon, but it doesn't feel quite like that. I don't know what it is.

I went to see what the man left behind. His "legacy." What a joke. His precious lab's a smoking hole in the ground. Slag and rubble. A total waste. Stood in his shitty manager's office when they boxed up the junk he left behind. His laptop--I think even I've got a better computer and I've got a government job. A couple pictures. Just...junk. So where's all the money? What did he do it for? Damned if I know."

RainDog

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19. Hank's View of the Blue Sky (spoilers, of course)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 03:33 PM
Aug 2012

Hank found Krazy 8 (white meth) and Tuco (blue sky) had some new, pure meth. The blue turned up after two guys stole a barrel of precursor from a warehouse (something the warehouse caught on video.)

Later the blue meth showed up in states surrounding NM, but not in NM itself. Hank assumes the new cooks have gone regional.

Two street-level guys in NM can be connected to the blue sky – Badger and Jesse. Badger is a doofus street dealer. He makes a deal to avoid jail by helping the DEA get Heisenberg – but the guy is a rent-a-crook, Hank suspects.

Hank thinks Jesse had a mobile cook lab. This would explain where the school equipment went – along with the barrel from the warehouse. Jesse was a former student of Hank’s brother-in-law, Walt, and sold Walt some mj, Hank assumes, after Walt’s cancer dx. Hank thinks Jesse moved on to meth after that.

Hank thinks Tuco got the blue meth from Jesse and that’s why Jesse’s car and a bag full of money were found when Tuco was killed. He also thinks Jesse was at Tuco’s with some “bad ass” who shot Tuco first. But Jesse has an alibi that backs up his story that he was at the Crystal Palace all weekend. So, Jesse walks.

Hank saw that Jesse's license plate reads "Cap'n Cook." When Krazy 8 snitched to the DEA earlier, they were looking for Cap'n Cook. They found Emilio Koyama, whose lawyer, S'all good, man, bailed him out. Both Emilio and Krazy 8 have been missing since shortly after that bust. The DEA first assumes Emilio killed Krazy 8 for snitching, then assumes Tuco killed K8 over turf.

Hank connects Combo, a street dealer who got killed, with Jesse via a photograph. Combo’s mom had an RV that matches one found on ATM bg photos at a gas station where someone tried to barter blue sky meth for gas.

But Hank never got to look at the RV and has no evidence. Someone likely was cooking meth in the desert where Krazy 8’s car was found, but the only evidence for this is a respirator from the school left nearby (the filter of the mask tested positive for the white meth.)

Both Krazy 8 (a DEA snitch) and Tuco were distributors. Only Tuco connects back to the Juarez cartel, though.

Things start popping with the Juarez cartel when Hank goes to El Paso. But Hank still thinks Heisenberg, the new meth wonderkind, is in ABQ.

Juan Bolsa, part of the Juarez cartel, gets shot in his home during a raid. The raid, seemingly, was because someone killed the cartel informant, Tortuga, and some DEA officers, too, in El Paso.

Some cartel folks, Hank assumes, sneak into the U.S. in a farm truck carrying illegals, then off everyone. Most likely that was the two hitmen who came after Hank later. The attempted hit was most likely connected to Hank shooting Tuco, who was connected to the Juarez cartel because he’s the nephew of Hector Salamanca, a stroke-ridden, old school gangster. Someone tipped off Hank about the hit one minute before it started.

Hank finds out Gale, some guy shot in his apt, had plans for a meth lab and a serial number for industrial equipment. Gale’s murder investigation leads to Gus Fring, DEA supporter and owner of a chain of chicken joints, Los Pollos Hermanos. After Hank questions Gus, the DEA gets a tip that the cartel is coming after Hank again. Hank assumes the attempted hit is because he was looking at Gus.

Just before the new hit on Hank, most of the high-ranking Juarez cartel leaders, and their chemists, are poisoned in Mexico – some others were shot and one was garrotted.

Gus and Hector were blown up in a nursing home bomb – a suicide bombing on Hector’s part. Before Hector took out Gus, Hector asked to talk to Hank at the DEA - but all Hector did was swear at Hank.

Gale and Gus were cooking meth in a super lab under an industrial laundry. Equipment for the lab came from a German company, Madrigal. One executive kills himself rather than talk about his connection to Gus. The meth was likely distributed via Los Pollos Hermanos, but the chicken factory is clean. A guy named Mike seems to have been Gus’ enforcer, but Hank has no evidence, other than a series of Cayman Island bank accounts, - the one with the most money is in Mike’s grandaughter’s name.

From all the deaths, it looks like someone was making a move on the Juarez cartel. Since Hector killed Gus, that someone was likely Gus. Since Gus was against the cartel, he was probably the person who called to warn Hank before the hit on him. Since Hank assumes Gus was behind the second hit, whoever helped Hector with the bomb likely informed Hank of the second hit.

The same people who supplied the bomb most likely later tried to destroy evidence at the ABQ PD evidence lab. None of Gus’ guys are talking. So someone is still pulling strings for the Fring group. For the DEA, that leads back to Madrigal or LPH.

Jesse, his connection to Tuco via Jesse's car, the white and blue meth, Emilio and his cousin, Krazy 8, the death of Jesse's friend, Combo, and the possible mobile meth lab are on the back burner because they're small time compared to the level of power Hank is now looking at since he discovered the Fring organization.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
31. Wow. That is such an awesome post!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:17 PM
Sep 2012

I really liked reading it. Now that we get to wait until next July for "Season 5.2," maybe you should extend it to the biggest spoiler of them all.

I will only point out one thing which is potentially key in all of this: SPOILERS!

Despite having won new accolades and a promotion for having cracked the Fring connection, Hank has not forgotten that it was the DEA that hung him out to dry and disarmed him just as the hit came in on him. From his point of view, all of his success has come in spite of the DEA's instructions and wishes. He may be contemptuous of them.

From Walter's point of view, Hank's knowledge and insight, position, personality, and moral conflict have already made him quite... useful. Who could be a better replacement enforcer, now that Walter is in the market for one? And Walter has special leverage, too: his own children, who would become wards of the state if their parents were convicted, something Hank's own wife will never tolerate.


RainDog

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32. Thanks!
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:31 PM
Sep 2012

I had a lot of fun trying to break down breaking bad - timelines, who knows what...

and now... SPOILERS... tho this whole thread is spoilers...

Hank knows who Heisenberg is, and boy, I bet he's pissed. So, now he knows how someone knew his phone number to fake the call that Marie had been in a bad traffic accident.

I wonder how Heisenberg will explain himself?

The confrontation is coming...

I'd bet Heisenberg tries to turn Hank - but I don't think Hank will go for it. We'll see... next year.

Paladin

(28,283 posts)
20. Last Night's Episode ("Dead Freight")........
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:01 AM
Aug 2012

.....was AWESOME. No spoilers from me; if you didn't see it, find some way to catch a repeat.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
21. here's a promo for the next episode
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:49 PM
Aug 2012

which will contain spoilers...


ahem




and my comments will contain spoilers...

cause I LOVE the parts of BrBa that are about figuring out how to do something and doing it... and I love the parts of BrBa that throw in horrible, unforeseen consequences of those actions.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
23. The way the entire episode was set up was so great
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 11:39 AM
Aug 2012

...why that opening?

then the train stuff is totally engrossing.

...then.

I saw something that is a spoiler for the next episode - so don't read further if you don't like those...



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so... next episode two characters who have only been in one scene together previously share screen time.

you can see it here - https://www.examiner.com/slideshow/breaking-bad-5-06-photos#slide=51529351

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
24. Refresh my memory, please: When have they been in another scene together?
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:48 PM
Aug 2012

IMO, I think Sklyer's going to turn state's evidence.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
25. skyler white, yo
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:15 PM
Aug 2012

went to Jesse's house to tell him to stop selling mj to her husband early in season 1 - when Jesse was dragging Emilio from the RV to the house, yo.

(She star 69-ed to find out who was calling the house, then looked up Jesse online via reverse phonebook and found his web page.

yo.

Breaking Bad used Skyler for comic relief early on - now, not so much. hopefully tonight, tho.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
29. SPOILER - Ep. 8 preview
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:17 PM
Aug 2012




I wonder if Walt was on camera when he was taking the bugs out of Hank's office?

The stand off between Walt and Mike was building all season - framed by the rivalry for Jesse's loyalty and Jesse stepping up when his two "dads" couldn't solve problems b/c of their mutual dislike.

I loved the way it played out - Walt did premeditate - or maybe he thought he was taking the gun that would kill him... but he acted in a moment of angry impulse because someone would not do what he wanted - and more importantly, because Mike wouldn't recognize Walt's ascendancy.

Never get out of this world alive...
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