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I was out last night at a performance of our local art school and sat with a visual artist and painter of renown.
As we were making conversation during intermission the black/blue - white/gold dress came up and she said she at all times saw it as black and blue and her husband standing beside us said that so did he.
Now - to me - no matter when I saw it - in whatever lighting - presented by whoever and in what way I ALWAYS saw it as nothing but white and gold. I could not even pretend to myself I saw something else, and let it all go because I thought the whole thing was just another silly thing to spend energy on in order to not pay attention to what really matters.
Well - I was gobsmacked that they said they felt equally correct in their vision.
Feeling frivolous, let me ask you what you saw, I will do nothing with the info except be very interested in the numbers.
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)I think I missed the original whatever-it-was that started this, because by the time I saw it there were pictures of white/gold, light blue/gold, and blue/black
Mira
(22,380 posts)when others could not.
I was not into thinking any of this curious until the utterly surprising thing happened with my friends.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Mira
(22,380 posts)so I can put this behind me.
Your second, large picture is exactly how I saw it all along. A beautiful dress. White and gold. Wish I owned it.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Was that right?
only the right (small) image looks like the large one. The middle one looks like it's just a poor bluish light photo of the one on the right, and the one on the left is not black and blue, just a weirded out version of the center one, strange but not black color and blue.
Maybe this will go into my archives of
je ne sais quois and I don't care.
Funny though.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Funny how such unexpected things end up getting everyone's attention
Mira
(22,380 posts)about the puzzlement of the attention it got.
I would have never given it a second thought had I not had the shock of my friends feeling the exact opposite way I did.
I thought it would be fun to kick it around my other visually oriented friends.
I'll let it run out now and turn in to start the week fresh. White and gold works for me. Black and Blue has always been painful
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I have 3
northoftheborder
(7,575 posts)The left photo is blue with black lace trim, the right one is white with gold trim.
I would have to see the actual dress up close in natural light.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)because of my slight red/green color blindness, but the number and receptivity
of rods and cones can vary significantly even among people considered to have 'normal'
vision.
Mira
(22,380 posts)began to take this difference a little more seriously, and not having this potential visual problem ourselves we did not know.
More than anything we were wondering what people saw in general and how different this may be from what we see. Especially confronted with that we did not see this damn dress the same way at all, and had stood in front of many a work of art or many a painting thinking we were seeing the identical same thing.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)elleng
(131,253 posts)with the strong possibility of white and gold depending on lighting.
NEVER black and blue.
Mira
(22,380 posts)of a hint of light blue in the white.
That's as far as I can go. Thanks elleng.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Mira
(22,380 posts)This is to my eyes as black and blue as it gets, and it's the first time I see it this way.
Cannot be the same dress.
I will now send this to the friend I talked about to see if she sees this as white and gold.
Wouldn't that be hoot?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)If you look at the original internet photo in a picture editing program you can
see the actual pixels are off from the real one, they're bluish and gold/brownish
(like the middle dress in NYC_SKIP's 3-picture photo).
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Posted on Tumblr.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-roman-originals-black-and-blue-dress-2015-2
The original picture was taken by a member of a bridal party and posted to the Internet.
From a photograph of the dress the bride posted online, there was broad disagreement. A few days after the wedding last weekend on the Scottish island of Colonsay, a member of the wedding band was so frustrated by the lack of consensus that she posted a picture of the dress on Tumblr, and asked her followers for feedback.
I was just looking for an answer because it was messing with my head, said Caitlin McNeill, a 21-year-old singer and guitarist.
Within a half-hour, her post attracted some 500 likes and shares. The photo soon migrated to Buzzfeed and Facebook and Twitter, setting off a social media conflagration that few were able to resist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/28/business/a-simple-question-about-a-dress-and-the-world-weighs-in.html
elleng
(131,253 posts)that it's the same dress, light blue/gold vs deep blue/black, and add to that, the lighting's everything. The mother of the bride is more likely to have worn white and gold than blue and black, imo.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)What remains to be seen is whether the color shift was deliberately or accidentally done.
Note how washed out the background is in any of the "gold white" images. If you crank up the exposure color values can change.
The bride's mum on your left, in "the dress":
I played with my iPhone and got some similar effects, but I don't have that dress to conduct a real test, and it could be that the phone used by Caitlin McNeill has different functions. It looks like an iPhone 6.
elleng
(131,253 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)But, everything I see is blurry, with my eyes.
Solly Mack
(90,795 posts)applegrove
(118,865 posts)Royal blue and black. The flash of the camera must have washed out the blue to be paler and the black browned into a kind of gold. I definitely don't see any white anywhere.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Truthfully, I didn't see it, nor did I care enough to go looking for it. I've seen enough color-based optical illusions in my 70 years to not be impressed by yet another one.
E.G. http://www.archimedes-lab.org/color_optical_illusions.html
Apathy; I can take it or leave it.
canoeist52
(2,282 posts)Objects both reflect and absorb color. For instance, "What color is snow?"
northoftheborder
(7,575 posts)I can see all the colors in all the photos. I would have to see the actual dress to know it's color.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)I'm sitting at a PC desktop and after seeing so much kerfuffle over the color of that dress, out of frustration, I pulled my chair away from the desk and tried viewing the photo from several different positions.
When down on my knees, looking straight up at my monitor from a very extreme angle, I can finally see the dress as blue and black, just like so many others. I don't know what that says about my eyeball cones or 'puter pixels or even that dress, at all. What I do know is that crawling around on the floor just to view what possibly half the world population sees normally put me into one idiotic position.
My man and I see colors differently all the time. I think he must be color-blind, he says that I am. When I have Evening Grosbeaks at my feeders, he thinks that they are dull-yellow, I see them as more greenish. Doesn't matter to me one bit, whenever I get a flock of those birds, it's a delight to have them here, whatever color they are.
I still think that the dress photo whoopla is silly, even after my dumb experiment. And I think it's a weird dress, whatever color it actually is. (tho, now that I've seen it as black and blue, I might actually wear such a thing. The white and gold version reminds me of a set of bathroom curtains I had many years ago, ha!)
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)The cell phone picture is a great way to show just how good the human brain is at doing color correction on the fly. Normally the surrounding scene gives plenty of clues as to what "white" looks like.
In the case of the cell phone picture, the dress is over exposed and in different light (blue shade) than the background (bright sunny). This all leads the brain to some confusion about what the colors really are.
I have been doing a bunch of post processing on pictures lately, including white balance corrections, so I can easily understand why some folks see white/gold while others see blue/black. I see the blue/black, but not the true dark blue.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)The first photo I saw, it looked light blue and brown. Another posting of it that I saw, it looked blue and dark brown. I never did see the white, and I never saw the black. But I found it odd that the first two photos that I saw looked totally different.