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RandySF

(59,276 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:22 PM Jun 2012

My kid listens to his teachers, but won't listen to me.

All year I listened with glee while my six-year son's kindergarten teacher and after-school instructor told me how wonderful and attentive he was during class. They described him as bright, responsible, excellent in math, ready to help others and always making sure the classroom was clean. What child are they talking about? Every day this summer, I give him a little bit of homework to do to keep his brain active and prepare him for the 1st grade. He goofs off. He argues. He acts like no one gave him any instruction for the past 9 months and he flat-out tells me I am not his teacher. When I told a few days ago that I am responsible for his safety (he was angry I did not let him run across the street with his friends), he said "you're not one of the summer camp volunteers." WTF? Did we actually have twins? Is there a kid who goes home with me and another who goes somewhere else? What do i do?

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My kid listens to his teachers, but won't listen to me. (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2012 OP
Not an uncommon observation. trof Jun 2012 #1
Well, that's sort of a relief. RandySF Jun 2012 #2
You can try this: trof Jun 2012 #5
do you continue to argue with him? MrsBrady Jun 2012 #3
Good point. trof Jun 2012 #6
Listen to Mrs. Brady... WillParkinson Jul 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsBrady Jul 2012 #14
Be glad it's not the other way around. femmocrat Jun 2012 #4
Another good point. trof Jun 2012 #7
Very typical. We have 2 boys, and they both are more difficult to manage at home, especially GreenPartyVoter Jun 2012 #8
Standard. elleng Jun 2012 #9
Hmmmm.... a totally empty OP whistler162 Jun 2012 #10
My wife has the same problem, but from the teacher's perspective.... HopeHoops Jun 2012 #11
at least he's listening to SOMEBODY! Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2012 #13
Same reason I LOL at those a-MAZE-ing dog trainers. nolabear Jul 2012 #15
I find that waving a gun around is pretty effective in getting their attention Major Nikon Jul 2012 #16

trof

(54,256 posts)
1. Not an uncommon observation.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:50 PM
Jun 2012

My 10 year old grandson appears to be the model student.
Very bright, makes excellent grades, never any disciplinary problems...in school.

At home, he will argue with his mother about some trivial thing until he is blue in the face.
Not so much with his dad, but sometimes.
As a 2-5 year old, he spent more time in the 'tine-out chair' than he did walking around.
Kid was in stir half his life.

When I was a kid, 60 years ago, teachers were merely an extension of your parents, who were the ultimate authority and say-so.
I don't know when or why it changed.
Lack of corporal punishment?

Based on past experience, I knew that if I crossed a certain line I'd get a sound swatting on my bottom.
I know this is no longer acceptable in most circles.

It's true that boys are a harder nut than girls, generally.
Our daughter was pretty much a joy to be around.
We'd tried to keep 'rules' to a minimum so we didn't stifle her.
She was usually very agreeable to the ones we laid down, especially when we explained why.

I wish I knew what the answer was.
My daughter is having a tough time right now.

RandySF

(59,276 posts)
2. Well, that's sort of a relief.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jun 2012

At least I can be pretty sure the teachers were not trying to make me feel better.

trof

(54,256 posts)
5. You can try this:
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:04 PM
Jun 2012

In some ways young kids are like dogs.
They respond much more to praise than to criticism.

You may have to search for it, but catch him doing something right, or good, and praise the hell out of him for it.

Worth a try.

MrsBrady

(4,187 posts)
3. do you continue to argue with him?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:58 PM
Jun 2012

I doubt his teachers do.

Give him two choices. And that's it.
Make sure the two choices are what you want him to do.
And then stick to it.
Are there consequences for when he doesn't do what you ask? Kids need boundaries, and they need YOU to set them.

I find that the kids respect the teachers more that require them to do the right things.
It's the same with parents.

Just my 2 cents.

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
12. Listen to Mrs. Brady...
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:00 AM
Jul 2012

She was bringing up 3 very lovely girls. All of them had hair of gold, like their mother, the youngest one in curls. She knows.

Response to WillParkinson (Reply #12)

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
4. Be glad it's not the other way around.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:58 PM
Jun 2012

I have had parents tell me that their child is an angel at home and only misbehaves in my class!

Sounds like he is feeling his oats and after being so good for 9 months wants to let loose a little. Maybe you could fore-go the summer "homework" in favor of more reading, or more practical math, like shopping, money, etc. Give the kid a break! LOL

GreenPartyVoter

(72,381 posts)
8. Very typical. We have 2 boys, and they both are more difficult to manage at home, especially
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:10 PM
Jun 2012

the younger one, who has ADHD.

As to what to do, I have yet to solve it. *sigh*

As far as "homework," hubby and I are both trained teachers, though neither of us are teaching now. I have the kids watch "learning shows" on Discovery, etc and play learning games on the computer. There are many available which tie into favorite TV shows like "Sesame Street" and "Bob the Builder." There is also a series called "JumpStart" which our kids loved. Another thing we have done is play "Bakery" using playdough, or "Store" using everything in the house. Nature walk scavenger hunts were also a lot of fun! (It's really important that you are participating in all of these activities too. This counts not just as learning time but quality parent/kid time.) Making up your own stories and illustrating them or trying MadLibs can be great. Just translate noun into "thing" or adjective into "describing word" and give some examples. They are very concrete thinkers at that age. You may just have to ask him to point to something in the room and describe it, and use those words. (Also, fill in several blanks yourself to keep from frustrating him and add variety to the story.)

"I spy" and "I packed my grandmother's trunk" are fun games, although at that age you can't expect a child to remember the whole list. (We played last night and at our age couldn't remember the whole list!) "Hot and Cold" is always a great game. I used to hide a Hot Wheels car and guide them in searching for it. You can also find website for age appropriate science experiments. Anything to do with rockets and balloons went over well here, as did the cyclone in a bottle experiment. They also started collecting rocks at a very young age, although it was later when they started learning to identify them. You can fill a container with sand or rice, however, and hide pennies or rocks in there for him to find. He has to count the pile before and after to see if he found everything. Usually 20 was my limit for items to hide.

Limbo/jump the rope or stick is great, and so is "Statue" where he moves around to the music and when it stops he has to freeze. Playing toss is great! Try to set a high score and count every catch! Build a city with blocks, if you have them.

(I am sure there are more activities we used to do that have slipped my mind. I had a great time walking down memory lane, though! Thank you! )

elleng

(131,144 posts)
9. Standard.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jun 2012

Very annoying, but nothing to worry about re: normal.
'You're not the boss of me' echoes in my mind.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
10. Hmmmm.... a totally empty OP
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jun 2012

that is odd!

Go into stasis until he reaches 21 or so. Even then he may not listen to you.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
11. My wife has the same problem, but from the teacher's perspective....
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:57 PM
Jun 2012

...

It's the PARENTS that don't listen!!! No wonder the kids don't pay attention to them.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
15. Same reason I LOL at those a-MAZE-ing dog trainers.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 11:45 PM
Jul 2012

The dog behaves really well because he's not entirely sure that guy's not going to kill him. A reasonably authoritative person who's not completely familiar can be mighty intimidating.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
16. I find that waving a gun around is pretty effective in getting their attention
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 12:02 AM
Jul 2012

Seriously though, kids in classroom situations are going to act differently because they will tend to follow what everyone else does. Their teachers also spend a lot of time with them and have to be good at getting kids to perform as expected.

Kids who argue aren't necessarily a bad thing. They are learning how to be independant and think for themselves. Certainly it can reach a point where it is problematic and as other have said, boundaries need to be set. However, I don't think those boundaries should be set so stringently that no room for dissent is ever offered. I will discuss things with my kids to a point, then I tell them I've made my decision and it's final. Now is the time to set those boundaries, because things only get more complicated when they get older.

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