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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:59 AM Sep 2020

Written English question about usage of a comma

Hi all, and thanks for considering my English composition question. I have been out of school a long time and my knowledge of the written English rules is foggy, at best.

My question: When you are writing (or typing) a greeting to someone (say, in a novel or even in a letter or email to a friend), which forms are permissible ?

A- "Hello John", "Hello Susan"

B- "Hello, John", "Hello, Susan" (note the usage of the comma)

or

C- both of the above ? I typically use option A but I do not know the rules.

The reason why I ask is, in a game I play, a Dutch woman habitually addresses people by option B. I have no idea what the rules are in the Netherlands. Just asking what the English rules are, if it even matters.

Thank you kindly for your attention to this!

Steve

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Written English question about usage of a comma (Original Post) steve2470 Sep 2020 OP
A is common but B is more proper C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #1
Agreed DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #2
lol! patricia92243 Sep 2020 #5
Precisely. nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #8
LOL! Vinnie From Indy Sep 2020 #9
LOL Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #10
Yes. Exactly. But, I wish people would focus more on including commas where it clarifies, avoiding hlthe2b Sep 2020 #17
Commas give clarity AnnaLee Sep 2020 #3
Commas save lives Cirque du So-What Sep 2020 #4
I love three things: eating my family and not using commas. soothsayer Sep 2020 #11
B is more proper, but then there is ... Croney Sep 2020 #6
Hello, darkness, my old friend, is technically correct. n/t Laelth Sep 2020 #13
Put the punctuation inside the quotation points. Always start a new line and Doodley Sep 2020 #7
About the commA, then there's: raccoon Sep 2020 #12
the Oxford comma is underappreciated for its preciseness JT45242 Sep 2020 #14
We gonna get all Strunk & White up in heah! Cirque du So-What Sep 2020 #15
I was a junior in high school when an English teacher finally admitted that there are no abqtommy Sep 2020 #16
Irrelevant to the question, but commas should be inside quotation marks. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #18

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
17. Yes. Exactly. But, I wish people would focus more on including commas where it clarifies, avoiding
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:26 AM
Sep 2020

their omission where they are clearly needed, and not so much on their extraneous use that might be technically incorrect.

Of course, that ignores the issue/rule of including the comma WITHIN the quotation marks. I haven't seen too many mention that (and frankly, while I do, it doesn't bother me either way).

AnnaLee

(1,033 posts)
3. Commas give clarity
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:12 AM
Sep 2020

I still overuse commas but I was taught to use them sparingly when required for clarity.

Croney

(4,656 posts)
6. B is more proper, but then there is ...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:14 AM
Sep 2020

Hello darkness, my old friend.

That looks better than hello, darkness my old friend.

Doodley

(9,036 posts)
7. Put the punctuation inside the quotation points. Always start a new line and
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:14 AM
Sep 2020

paragraph when a new person speaks. Example:

PARAGRAPH "Hello John," said Susan.
PARAGRAPH "Pleased to meet you again!" said John.

However, in a novel. you would normally avoid these types of introductory conversations as they aren't interesting.

PS. You don't put comma before the name, if it isn't needed for clarity.

JT45242

(2,243 posts)
14. the Oxford comma is underappreciated for its preciseness
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 09:06 AM
Sep 2020

There have been lawsuits that the Oxford comma was used to delineate exactly what was meant.

For precision, use the comma.

For more realistic looking dialogue in a novel or play, you may omit to indicate that in normal conversation there is no pause.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
16. I was a junior in high school when an English teacher finally admitted that there are no
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:10 AM
Sep 2020

language/punctuation rules. I still use what I can to achieve clarity of thought and presentation but
I generally understand what anybody does...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
18. Irrelevant to the question, but commas should be inside quotation marks.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:51 AM
Sep 2020

B is more correct, but A seems to have become more common. Commas are placed for clarity, and the salutation is clear either way.

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