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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:19 PM Sep 2020

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... Aristus Sep 2020 #1
We don't know each other but Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #2
((Soph)) blm Sep 2020 #3
Love to you...I woulda kept them... Eliot Rosewater Sep 2020 #4
Me too lillypaddle Sep 2020 #86
You are not a pest, and you deserve all the love you need! nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #5
Oh, dear, it's a tough journey you're on, I feel for you soothsayer Sep 2020 #6
I know exactly what he would he say Soph0571 Sep 2020 #17
The Tears Have Value leftieNanner Sep 2020 #50
Hang in there vlyons Sep 2020 #7
Ask for what you need and speak up when we'll meaning (or not) people MLAA Sep 2020 #8
OMIGOD, my dear Soph, you will NEVER be a pest! NEVER. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2020 #9
I am lost right now Soph0571 Sep 2020 #23
NO question that you will find your way, dear Soph. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2020 #42
You could never be a pest. femmedem Sep 2020 #10
You are not a pest and you have our love. NNadir Sep 2020 #11
I lost my husband 2 years ago... lisa58 Sep 2020 #12
Sorry to hear about your loss, you sound like you have handled it with wisdom grantcart Sep 2020 #61
I'm glad you told your friend to STFU. Now is a time to listen and give support. demmiblue Sep 2020 #13
I think the meds thing is brillaint Soph0571 Sep 2020 #26
It is the fear of contamination/tampering. demmiblue Sep 2020 #30
Make no major decisions for a year. Laelth Sep 2020 #14
You're not being a pest. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #15
This is why we are here Soph, to provide community support and a safe place to rant. alwaysinasnit Sep 2020 #16
The death of a loved one is possibly the hardest thing we can endure rurallib Sep 2020 #18
... RKP5637 Sep 2020 #19
Sending you a big hug, Soph. BComplex Sep 2020 #20
Here you go: volstork Sep 2020 #21
... pazzyanne Sep 2020 #22
Oh Soph! My heart is breaking for you. Callalily Sep 2020 #24
I am really cross at him Soph0571 Sep 2020 #35
Emotion is not a weakness, Soph. Expressing them is a way to honor yourself SheltieLover Sep 2020 #52
You're better than me... AmyStrange Sep 2020 #25
Sooooo tempted Soph0571 Sep 2020 #36
I hate you! AmyStrange Sep 2020 #41
You know, I'm glad you're here. I'm very, very sorry for your loss, but PatrickforO Sep 2020 #27
I read the replies and they're good...just wanted to underline that you're not a pest, never Karadeniz Sep 2020 #28
Moving is not going to happen Soph0571 Sep 2020 #37
I'm so sorry. LiberalLoner Sep 2020 #29
Hug ananda Sep 2020 #31
all things pass llashram Sep 2020 #32
I am so sorry about your "well meaning" friend's profound lack of sensitivity. pnwmom Sep 2020 #33
+1000 nt steve2470 Sep 2020 #80
Today was rough Soph0571 Sep 2020 #87
You will know when you are ready to use those abilities. But it's only been a week, pnwmom Sep 2020 #88
I know parents MFM008 Sep 2020 #34
Giant Hugs for you Tribalceltic Sep 2020 #38
You are wonderful and loved. Alpeduez21 Sep 2020 #39
We all heal the way we heal MuseRider Sep 2020 #40
Soph, DU is a family. Dem2theMax Sep 2020 #43
+ 1 3Hotdogs Sep 2020 #44
When people ask me what it was like after my wife died, I tell them... Girard442 Sep 2020 #45
A hopeful hug. ancianita Sep 2020 #46
You have been through trauma. I am so sorry. Take it one miunte at a time. That is all we have. XXOO Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #47
I wish I had some words of wisdom Ohiogal Sep 2020 #48
You are not a pest, Soph... you're doing exactly the best thing you can... connecting. n/t TygrBright Sep 2020 #49
Oh Soph, I weep for you and with you. flamin lib Sep 2020 #51
(((((((((Soph))))))))) sending you lots of hugs, and vibes for healing and strength. And for niyad Sep 2020 #53
(((((((Hugs)))))) Kitchari Sep 2020 #54
You sound a little better. I'm so glad. JDC Sep 2020 #55
Hi Soph❤️ Olafjoy Sep 2020 #56
been where you are msdogi Sep 2020 #57
He is still there just recently gone sadness surely prevails over everything in the flat lunasun Sep 2020 #58
Holding you in my thoughts and my heart, Soph. Habibi Sep 2020 #59
Grieve in your own way and heal at your own pace csziggy Sep 2020 #60
Hugs, hugs, hugs CanonRay Sep 2020 #62
You are not a pest. I know you know that, but feel somehow obliged to apologize for it anyway. TreasonousBastard Sep 2020 #63
We all need to grieve when we lose a loved one, and we all do it in different ways. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #64
Hugs from this "delivery boy"... mwooldri Sep 2020 #65
I've been there. Twice. I know something of what you're feeling. catbyte Sep 2020 #66
I read something I liked: LakeArenal Sep 2020 #67
Hang in there DU sister. Everyone here is with you. panader0 Sep 2020 #68
I'm so sorry for your loss. The Polack MSgt Sep 2020 #69
No worries, friend firstwife Sep 2020 #70
One minute, one hour, one day at a time. GemDigger Sep 2020 #71
Sending tons of love Blue_playwright Sep 2020 #72
So sorry for the pain. cate94 Sep 2020 #73
I hope we can help lift your heart and ease your burden Trueblue Texan Sep 2020 #74
Oh, my dear, I am sending you hugs. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #75
Whether a loss is anticipated, as your loss... 3catwoman3 Sep 2020 #76
My husband died 1332 days ago Marthe48 Sep 2020 #77
Sending you love and peace... Freedomofspeech Sep 2020 #78
I have not read the thread yet, but you must know that your grief will go on for a few years.... steve2470 Sep 2020 #79
Dear Soph, just sound out anytime and often, peacebuzzard Sep 2020 #81
You will always miss him, the pain & loss will always be in your heart FakeNoose Sep 2020 #82
Come here: ((((hug)))) JudyM Sep 2020 #83
Virtual hugs from across the pond... Heartstrings Sep 2020 #84
You take all the time you need. malthaussen Sep 2020 #85
Grieving is normal Nululu Sep 2020 #89
Your friend may be well meaning (you're the best judge of that), soldierant Sep 2020 #90
You must miss him so much. CTyankee Sep 2020 #91
There are several ears here when you need a friendly ear to talk to. Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2020 #92
Take your own good time, Soph VerbalBarb Sep 2020 #93
You do you! Phentex Sep 2020 #94
{{{soph}}} deek Sep 2020 #95

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
1. ...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:20 PM
Sep 2020


Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
2. We don't know each other but
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:22 PM
Sep 2020

blm

(113,019 posts)
3. ((Soph))
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:23 PM
Sep 2020

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
4. Love to you...I woulda kept them...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:25 PM
Sep 2020

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
86. Me too
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
5. You are not a pest, and you deserve all the love you need! nt
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:25 PM
Sep 2020

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
6. Oh, dear, it's a tough journey you're on, I feel for you
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:26 PM
Sep 2020

I wonder, were he sitting at your bedside right now (which well he may be), what words he’d have for you?

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
17. I know exactly what he would he say
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:39 PM
Sep 2020

Buck up, what are the tears for? You loved me but I am not here so chin up, although secretly pleased at the fact I am grieving because it reinforces my love for him.

leftieNanner

(15,070 posts)
50. The Tears Have Value
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:47 PM
Sep 2020

If you don't give yourself time to grieve, it will still find a way to get out and that might be less helpful.

We care for you here on DU and wish you healing.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. Hang in there
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:26 PM
Sep 2020

Nothing lasts forever, including you and me. Can you phone someone for a nice long chat? That's my advice.

MLAA

(17,254 posts)
8. Ask for what you need and speak up when we'll meaning (or not) people
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:26 PM
Sep 2020

try and tell you what to do or how to feel or when to feel it, just exactly as you did!

I can on barely imagine what you are going through. How good of you to think about his meds and that they might do someone else some good 💕

I am thinking of you and sending love and kindness to surround you.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,534 posts)
9. OMIGOD, my dear Soph, you will NEVER be a pest! NEVER.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:27 PM
Sep 2020

It is way too soon for any new plans.

You need to take care of yourself the best way it seems to be. Whatever it seems to be. This is a very fresh wound and it will take a lot of time to get past it.

I wish I were there! I would never avoid you. I hold you in my heart.

PS That was very cool and brave of you, returning all his meds to the NHS.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
23. I am lost right now
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:45 PM
Sep 2020

But i will find my way. No other option, right? Just need a love bomb rather than a plan bomb....

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,534 posts)
42. NO question that you will find your way, dear Soph.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:18 PM
Sep 2020

A long time ago, I had a loss that threatened me, though it was not as big as yours. Anyway, I found this article and it helped me a whole lot.

It may be too soon for you to read, but I hope you will, sometime. It gave me a lifeline.

Grief is hard to experience. And everyone does it differently. The process of getting through it is more growing a scab over the wound than it is healing it. You get used to the loss, strange as that sounds now. It will always be part of you. The deeper the love, the deeper the grief. I read that somewhere and I think it's true.

Anyway, here's the link to the article:

https://www.tickld.com/heartwarming/1848120/old-man-explains-death-and-life-to-grieving-young-man

I hope it will help.

femmedem

(8,197 posts)
10. You could never be a pest.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:27 PM
Sep 2020

I'm guessing your friend has been lucky enough to have not gone through the kind of grief you are experiencing. If she had lost someone she dearly loved, she would know that a week is a blink of an eye, that you are still trying to figure out how to get out of bed and swallow food, not plotting out your new plan.

I'm sure she is well-meaning; she just doesn't have the experience to know how to help you through this. Someday she probably will. In the meantime, lean on your DU family as often and as hard as you need to.

NNadir

(33,477 posts)
11. You are not a pest and you have our love.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:27 PM
Sep 2020

The hollow time after a loss like this is very hard. I call it the "hollow time" because suddenly, after being in intense moment to moment demand for care, suddenly there seems like there is nothing to do.

It will never go away, but what happens is that you learn to live with it.

Be well.

lisa58

(5,755 posts)
12. I lost my husband 2 years ago...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:34 PM
Sep 2020

I know he’s fine - I know I’m fine with letting him go, but talking to other people? Still so hard. I find I’d rather be around people who don’t know because they don’t think they have to ‘fix’ me. It’s an adjustment in daily life that you can’t anticipate what is going to get to you and what won’t. I’m so very sorry for your loss.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
61. Sorry to hear about your loss, you sound like you have handled it with wisdom
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:17 PM
Sep 2020

demmiblue

(36,824 posts)
13. I'm glad you told your friend to STFU. Now is a time to listen and give support.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:35 PM
Sep 2020

Although I'm sure it was well meaning, as clumsy as it was.

That meds thing, though... that would never fly here.

Take care, and let yourself grieve the way you need to grieve.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
26. I think the meds thing is brillaint
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:49 PM
Sep 2020

Though i suppose if you have had to sell a kidney to get the meds maybe not so much! Himself got his meds for free because he had diabetes, and even if he had paid for them (at the NHS price) what was i going to do with them? Better they go back into the system.

demmiblue

(36,824 posts)
30. It is the fear of contamination/tampering.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:59 PM
Sep 2020

Unopened, with a seal, totally brilliant!

Heck, there are items from the grocery store here that have to be automatically trashed even if they are unopened upon return (and not even perishables).

Take care, and know we have your back!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. Make no major decisions for a year.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:36 PM
Sep 2020

This is the only real help I can give you other than an open ear and open heart. You are welcome to both.



-Laelth

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
15. You're not being a pest.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:36 PM
Sep 2020

It's only been a week and you aren't ready for new plans. Your friend means well but probably has never been in your situation. Don't plan, just be.

alwaysinasnit

(5,062 posts)
16. This is why we are here Soph, to provide community support and a safe place to rant.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:38 PM
Sep 2020

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
18. The death of a loved one is possibly the hardest thing we can endure
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:41 PM
Sep 2020

everybody grieves differently.

Do what you need to do and we will remain here for you.

I want to thank you for telling us about him. Sounded like a great guy.

What did Biden once say - something like soon the smile will come to your face before the tears when you think about him.

Until then, {{{{{ Soph }}}}}

RKP5637

(67,089 posts)
19. ...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:41 PM
Sep 2020

BComplex

(8,019 posts)
20. Sending you a big hug, Soph.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:42 PM
Sep 2020
It's going to take a whole lot of time, but we're all here. We'll be here.

volstork

(5,399 posts)
21. Here you go:
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:43 PM
Sep 2020

pazzyanne

(6,544 posts)
22. ...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:44 PM
Sep 2020

Callalily

(14,887 posts)
24. Oh Soph! My heart is breaking for you.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:46 PM
Sep 2020

These are some difficult times and truth be told, all of our words, all of our prayers will not be able to take away the hurt that you are feeling.

So, yell, scream, drink, do whatever you want to do. And if a "friend" is talking inappropriately, you have all the right to tell them to shut the fck up.

Your next steps? They will be whatever you want them to be. Right now take time to grieve. And please know that you have a lot of friends and support here!

Sending BIG HUGS and STRENGTH.


P.S. Pest away!

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
35. I am really cross at him
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:03 PM
Sep 2020

He left me. Just fucking rude. He was my heart and I was his. We had our own special bubble for a decade, and I will be fine, of course I will. But tonight, I am in last week, where being fine is not an option.

I spoke to my ex - 14 years together a long time ago - the day Jj died and apart my twin and Jj, he knows my peculiarities and eccentricities better than anyone on planet, and he sobbed for me, because he knew how hard a war child would find it too grieve honestly and properly. Which is why I come here and post. I can express my feelings in a way I cannot real world. I am conditioned IRL by being a child of the troubles where emotion was a weakness.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
52. Emotion is not a weakness, Soph. Expressing them is a way to honor yourself
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:55 PM
Sep 2020

You are well loved here, {{{Soph!}}}

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
25. You're better than me...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:47 PM
Sep 2020

-

I would've kept the meds!

(((HUGS)))
===========

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
36. Sooooo tempted
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:05 PM
Sep 2020

But there are actual people who need them more than a hypothetical me in the future, when I could just pay £9 for a prescription.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
41. I hate you!
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:14 PM
Sep 2020

-

You are so much better than me, that I almost want to start crying.

You'll survive, girl, because you've got what it takes!
==========

PatrickforO

(14,561 posts)
27. You know, I'm glad you're here. I'm very, very sorry for your loss, but
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:53 PM
Sep 2020

you should know that a lot of people on here read your posts and are touched in some way, even inspired, by them. So, don't you be going away, and don't stop posting here!

As to your partner, may he have eternal rest in perpetual light. In the meantime, we will keep supporting each other and fighting the good fight.

Karadeniz

(22,475 posts)
28. I read the replies and they're good...just wanted to underline that you're not a pest, never
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:55 PM
Sep 2020

Gonna happen! Would it help to, in time, move? Don't rush anything!

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
37. Moving is not going to happen
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:11 PM
Sep 2020

He moved to me when we met, I am mortgage free in central London. Selling up would seem like a great plan normally, I have great equity in the flat, but the market is doing strange things and I might have memories all around, but economic mismanagement of my future, will beat the memories every single time and that is exactly what Jj would expect from me.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
29. I'm so sorry.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:57 PM
Sep 2020

Sending wishes for healing and comfort your way.

ananda

(28,837 posts)
31. Hug
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:00 PM
Sep 2020

Grief knows only its own way, not others.

You have been much loved. Hold onto
that.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
32. all things pass
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:00 PM
Sep 2020

have patience with yourself and add a little love-hug from me. Peace

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
33. I am so sorry about your "well meaning" friend's profound lack of sensitivity.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:01 PM
Sep 2020

You just wrote two coherent paragraphs describing your feelings after losing your life partner. That is amazing and no one should expect you to accomplish more just one week past his death. Certainly not to make any plans, beyond what you might eat for dinner.

Hang in there. We care.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
80. +1000 nt
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:03 PM
Sep 2020

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
87. Today was rough
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 05:52 PM
Sep 2020

I stayed in bed until noon, which has not happened since I was a teen. I cannot get the image of his dying out of my head. It does not help that I don't have a job. Once he got his diagnosis that was it on the job front. He was the only thing that matter. Thing is (although I say so myself) I have a very big brain that needs occupying. So I am drumming my heels as a new lockdown looms and my admittedly eccentric big brain goes into overdrive. I need more interaction with the human race, but I am not ready to go out there an network for a new job right now. Tis a conundrum.

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
88. You will know when you are ready to use those abilities. But it's only been a week,
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 05:58 PM
Sep 2020

so of course you're grieving -- and not just emotionally. In my experience, grief is also physical.

So all I can advise is to let yourself cry. And cry. And cry.

Over the weeks and months the grief will be less devastating, and somewhere along the way you'll figure out what you want to do with yourself now.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
34. I know parents
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:01 PM
Sep 2020

Arent the same as a life partner but i lost my mom last year and im still grieving my dad we lost in 2000.
Love and memory is all thats left to us in the end.😪

Tribalceltic

(1,000 posts)
38. Giant Hugs for you
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:12 PM
Sep 2020

And a nuclear Love Bomb !!! Boom!

Alpeduez21

(1,750 posts)
39. You are wonderful and loved.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:12 PM
Sep 2020

I have enjoyed reading your posts. I'm so sorry for your loss.

We had some Vicadin(I think? Percoset?) in the house for pain. My wife got it for her back in 2008 and she just took it very rarely for ten years. When the back flared up she'd take one or two and be fine till the next time. Her original Rx was 60 or so pills. Way too many for the month they were supposed to last. I'm not saying what you should do. I had no idea they got recycled. That's cool.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
40. We all heal the way we heal
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:14 PM
Sep 2020

and for someone to tell you what to do is really not helpful. I am sure they meant well but it is wayyy too soon for you to have to deal with that. You may need to let people know what you need so this does not happen. That may help you to feel some actual control you might feel like you have lost. Whatever works for you, this is never easy and I am so sorry you are having to deal with this.

Many hugs and good thoughts go out to you. You know we all love you here. There is no way you could ever be a pest.

Dem2theMax

(9,646 posts)
43. Soph, DU is a family.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:19 PM
Sep 2020

It doesn't matter where we live. It doesn't matter if we have met in person or not. We are all family here. You are not being a pest. You are a family member who needs support and comfort.

I am so glad you told your well-meaning friend to shut up. I wrote this in a previous post to you, but you may not have read it through your tears. There is no wrong way or right way to go through this. There is only your way, and whatever works for you.

If you sit and cry 24/7, then that's what you need to do.
If you decide you need to keep busy and keep your mind off of it, then that's what you need to do.

Whatever you are doing in any current moment, is what you need to do.

You are going to experience a lot of measurements in time. You just hit the first one. A week ago today you were with him. They will become markers in your life. And at first you will remember every single minute.

Time does help us to heal. But the problem is we actually have to go through it to get to the other side.
And it takes however long it takes. There is no timetable. There is no schedule. There is no plan.

There is you, and your feelings, and your love for this man. That love will always be there. Hold on to that right now, and be kind to your soul. Give yourself permission to feel and do whatever it is you need, to get through the next minute, the next hour, the next day.

And ALWAYS reach out to us. The great thing about DU is that the lights are always on and people are always here.

3Hotdogs

(12,333 posts)
44. + 1
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:31 PM
Sep 2020

I wish I could be with you to listen to you.

Girard442

(6,066 posts)
45. When people ask me what it was like after my wife died, I tell them...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:32 PM
Sep 2020

...it was a very bad time but it was filled with very good people. May it be so for you.

ancianita

(35,950 posts)
46. A hopeful hug.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:33 PM
Sep 2020

My advice is all of the above, and because you're not alone.

Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
47. You have been through trauma. I am so sorry. Take it one miunte at a time. That is all we have. XXOO
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:38 PM
Sep 2020

Ohiogal

(31,929 posts)
48. I wish I had some words of wisdom
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:39 PM
Sep 2020

But I don’t, so here’s a hug instead....



Re that friend of yours .... gosh people can be such inconsiderate jerks sometimes ....

TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
49. You are not a pest, Soph... you're doing exactly the best thing you can... connecting. n/t
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:43 PM
Sep 2020

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
51. Oh Soph, I weep for you and with you.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:53 PM
Sep 2020

I was privileged to say the last words my sister would hear before she crossed. They were the same ones you shared with your love; it's time to let go. I was 400 miles away, speaking over the phone. The hospice nurse placed the phone next to her ear for our last conversation. All I heard were sighs and whimpers as I told her goodbye and to simply let go, it was time. My brothers who were with her told me that she simply calmed down, her breathing eased and minutes later she slipped away quietly.

And ya' know what? That knowledge and and $6 will get you a coffee at Starbucks. Right now there is no comfort to be had. It will come. You will someday remember and feel a warmth in your heart. But right now know that we, your virtual family, is here for you. We listen. We hear you. We share your pain and hurt. We weep with you.




niyad

(113,095 posts)
53. (((((((((Soph))))))))) sending you lots of hugs, and vibes for healing and strength. And for
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:56 PM
Sep 2020

patience in dealing with well-meaning (one hopes!) people who actually think they are helping. I hope you don't encounter too many of that type, they are quite exhausting. A friend and I have been having this conversation as she undergoes treatment for cancer. Most people, however well-meaning, simply do not know how to talk to someone who is ill, or has lost a loved one.

One thing that sometimes shocks the one left behind are surprising moments of anger or rage at the one who died. It is a perfectly normal reaction, so please do not feel bad about it.

I cannot imagine how awful tomorrow will be for you, but just know that you can hang on tight to your DU family. We are all here for you.

And I am glad to hear about the meds. We have clinics here that will take those meds as well as equipment.

Do whatever you need to do, just remember to be kind and gentle to yourself.

Kitchari

(2,165 posts)
54. (((((((Hugs))))))
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:59 PM
Sep 2020

Sending good vibes

JDC

(10,117 posts)
55. You sound a little better. I'm so glad.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:01 PM
Sep 2020

Best wishes as always.

Olafjoy

(937 posts)
56. Hi Soph❤️
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:05 PM
Sep 2020

When I am sad, I like to go on YouTube and listen and watch some of my favorite songs. You search for one and all these other suggestions come up and you watch those. Pretty soon, time has passed and I feel a little better❤️❤️❤️😘Sending love your way.

msdogi

(430 posts)
57. been where you are
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:09 PM
Sep 2020

just a year ago. Be as sad as you need to be, and angry and frustrated and all the gamut of emotions. For me, it was mostly sad.
Lean on friends, family, counselors if that is available. Be very kind to yourself.
It does get easier with time. Hugs to you

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
58. He is still there just recently gone sadness surely prevails over everything in the flat
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:10 PM
Sep 2020

I hope you can rest tonite with comforting thoughts of what you both had together and how he will be waked and put to rest which will be hard to think of with out sorrow
Stay away from those pesky life planner type people right now and for awhile
A friend’s husband was kiled by a drunk driver . A couple of people were trying to talk to her about what would be her plans and had suggestions while she was basically still in shock about what happened . Although no surprise, I am sure you are still in some state of shock too And covid on top of it all I am so sorry
Condolences

Habibi

(3,598 posts)
59. Holding you in my thoughts and my heart, Soph.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:15 PM
Sep 2020

NEVER worry about "being a pest" here. We love you and are with you in your pain and grief.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
60. Grieve in your own way and heal at your own pace
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:17 PM
Sep 2020

Some of my friends have been widowed and each dealt with their loss in different ways. One immediately got rid of everything that belonged to her SO, the other still, fifteen years later, has his voice on her answer machine as well as all his clothes still in the closet. Another has done a little of each, but kept the things that meant the most to him, while giving other items to their daughter and friends.

Each person has to take it in their own time. You will find your way though it may not seem like it right now.

CanonRay

(14,088 posts)
62. Hugs, hugs, hugs
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:29 PM
Sep 2020

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
63. You are not a pest. I know you know that, but feel somehow obliged to apologize for it anyway.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:32 PM
Sep 2020

It's one of those odd things that make you a decent human.

This friend of yours with the big mouth was being a pest, but I would hope that there's more to your friendship that you'll get over this glitch. I suppose she thought she was helping, but sometimes the best way to help is just being there in silent support.

It won't be easy, but you will find a way to go on. My father died when I was in high school, and my mother eventually remarried, only to outlive her second husband. Both times she went through several stages of grief (but not all of them!) but saw her future as an adventure and opportunity to make the best of.

A friend of mine recently died and his wife is going through her own grief. She talks of many things when she talks about it at all. And we listen.



Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
64. We all need to grieve when we lose a loved one, and we all do it in different ways.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:37 PM
Sep 2020

Grieve in the way you need, and know that the DU community will always be here to support you. We are an online community, but the good wishes and the concern for you are just as real as an in-person community. Sending virtual hugs.

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
65. Hugs from this "delivery boy"...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:39 PM
Sep 2020

Practice some self care, sounds like you need it. But IMO of course.

catbyte

(34,341 posts)
66. I've been there. Twice. I know something of what you're feeling.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:40 PM
Sep 2020

The first time was on December 17, 2014 when my husband of 30 years passed away. He had been in a nursing home for almost 3 years due to vascular dementia caused by having Type I Diabetes for about 55 years and it caught up with him. His short-term memory was shot but he was always himself. He passed in his sleep from a heart attack.

Then I reconnected with my college boyfriend in 2015 who lost his wife of 34 years to ALS. We clicked and had a wonderful 3.5 years until he died very suddenly on April 28, 2019, from hyperkalemia, a build-up of potassium in his body which caused heart failure. It was maddening because it was a completely treatable condition but I could never get him to go in for a checkup because he "felt fine."

I can't tell you it'll get better in the near future because it might not. Grief has its own timetable so don't let people lay a guilt trip on you if it takes time. It's YOUR grief. If you need someone to "talk" to who's been there, please don't hesitate to DM me. I'm so sorry.

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
67. I read something I liked:
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:45 PM
Sep 2020

When you look up to the stars, imagine they are loved ones passed looking over you. Reassuring you that they are fine but they will always be watching.

Hope you reach the point where you can celebrate his life while mourning his passing.

Take care.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
68. Hang in there DU sister. Everyone here is with you.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:46 PM
Sep 2020

The Polack MSgt

(13,182 posts)
69. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:48 PM
Sep 2020

My thoughts go out to you.

firstwife

(115 posts)
70. No worries, friend
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:49 PM
Sep 2020

Not a bother at all. You have just been through your greatest loss. If I could give you a loving hug right now I would. Grieve in your own way, in your own time. Grief goes on forever, but eventually the sharp jags of pain are polished down with time to hurt us less. You can do this. Best wishes, be well. 🥰

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
71. One minute, one hour, one day at a time.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 08:55 PM
Sep 2020

You need to do what you need to do to heal and you need to do it your way. You can be that chick. On posts like this I try not to read what is before me because it is of such a personal nature but I do catch some here and there. From those that I do catch I can safely say that there are lots of people here on DU who care about you deeply.

Come here, be that chick. Whatever you need. Cry on our shoulders ... yell, scream, cuss, we are here for you.

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
72. Sending tons of love
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:07 PM
Sep 2020

Wish I was in the U.K. I’d planned to be there this fall.

cate94

(2,810 posts)
73. So sorry for the pain.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:13 PM
Sep 2020

Trueblue Texan

(2,420 posts)
74. I hope we can help lift your heart and ease your burden
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:16 PM
Sep 2020

Nobody else is going through this...no one else had this relationship. No one else walks your particular path, so no one can tell you how you should do this. But I know all of us here feel compassion for your struggle and pain. I hope there is some balm of comfort here and in your other relationships. If I could hug you, I would, Miss Soph.

Joinfortmill

(14,397 posts)
75. Oh, my dear, I am sending you hugs.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:16 PM
Sep 2020

3catwoman3

(23,952 posts)
76. Whether a loss is anticipated, as your loss...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:17 PM
Sep 2020

...was, or sudden, as mine was when my 23 yr old brother died in a scuba venture that went awry, your sense of time gets all screwed up. The heart-rending event feels like it happened 10 seconds ago and forever ago, all at the same time. I’d find myself thinking, “36 hours ago, he was still alive,” and then, “4 weeks ago, he was still alive,” and on and on. I’d think of things I’d want to tell him, and be taken aback when I’d realize, yet again, that I could no longer do that.

Many above have so correctly stated that grief has no timetable, and there is no “right” was to go thru it. So true. I expect your friend had good intentions but didn’t know how to go about it. People are uncomfortable around the grief of others and wish they could make it go away, and that leads to clumsy actions.

For those of us not as familiar as some with your man, maybe you'd be willing to tell us about him sometime. He sounds like he was quite something.

Virtual hug coming your way.

Marthe48

(16,908 posts)
77. My husband died 1332 days ago
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:24 PM
Sep 2020

Do what you need to until you can cope with your loss.

I accept that some things are unacceptable and that actually helps me live with the cosmic unfairness.

Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
78. Sending you love and peace...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:57 PM
Sep 2020

Be thankful you had someone to love so much...so many people never have that experience. I cannot imagine your pain. You have hundreds of people here loving you and supporting you.❤

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
79. I have not read the thread yet, but you must know that your grief will go on for a few years....
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:03 PM
Sep 2020

at least a few years, if not more. It depends on individual factors, of course.

He only died last week. You are very deep in your grief. Allow yourself to grieve, and don't let anyone hurry you up or shut you up. You might want to go to counseling to really talk about it, because many do not wish to talk about grief after so many weeks.

All the best to you, hugs.

peacebuzzard

(5,149 posts)
81. Dear Soph, just sound out anytime and often,
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:26 PM
Sep 2020

a loss of a loved one is devastating to the core, to the cell, it triggers a void. There are so many here on this board, probably all of us here, have lost someone or more than one and we know. I know, and now you are going through something so intense, its hard to express or put words out.

I am so sorry, please reach out often. I will certainly check in to send you best thoughts...

FakeNoose

(32,599 posts)
82. You will always miss him, the pain & loss will always be in your heart
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:47 PM
Sep 2020


But some day eventually, the happy memories will exceed your sadness. Everyone grieves in their own way, at their own speed. So don't let anyone else tell you how to grieve.

All the best to you Soph!


JudyM

(29,206 posts)
83. Come here: ((((hug))))
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 11:01 PM
Sep 2020

Time moves oddly after we lose one we adore... part of us stays in the past for the comfort of the feeling. That’s ok to do. You move and be in your own natural pace with it. Your 10 year bubble will always be a great treasure in your pocket. ❤️

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
84. Virtual hugs from across the pond...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:01 PM
Sep 2020

My daughter and I were in London 2 years ago for a British Summertime Concert in Hyde Park...ended up Wimbledon, Pride Parade, and the Brits winning the semi-final World Cup all happened while we were in your beautiful city! What a time we had watching football with the locals in a small pub near Hyde Park! Everyone made us feel welcome, and we made new friends we’re still in contact with...

There are no profound words I can give you other than, there is no time limit on grief...take each day, an hour, a minute, or a second at a time and know there people who love you and are here for you.

And next time I’m in London-town we’ll do high tea together!


malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
85. You take all the time you need.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:39 PM
Sep 2020

One week? Let's get real. The amount of time you hurt will be proportional to the severity of the loss. I'd be astonished if you had another topic of conversation right now, with the loss still fresh and all the weight that is on you. Astonished, and a bit worried: that kind of sublimation isn't healthy.

Life, or a reasonable facsimile, will continue to go on. Some engagement will be impossible to avoid, but anyone who thinks you should have your new plan of life all ready to go and your emotions all tucked away where they won't "bother" anyone else knows little of human nature, and understands less. Feel free to punch them in the nose.

While most of the adjustments will be internal (loss of a loved one is always a test of one's spiritual balance), one should never feel a "pest" or "burden" when some of the adjustments spill onto other people. Most of us are going through similar processes, or have gone through similar processes, or will go through similar processes, again and again. More strength in coping is found by sharing than by sealing off, and oddly enough, at some point helping someone else with her grief can help one with her own.

Finally, consider that a failure to grieve is really a disservice to the departed. Did he mean so little to you that his loss could be shrugged off all in an instant? If so, he must not have meant much to you. I'd say you owe it to his memory to mourn him fully and freely, and if you have acquaintances who can't deal with that, the loss is theirs. Death is part of life, and should be embraced as seriously as the fun times. Perhaps more, for it is in the showing of compassion that we display our humanity best.

-- Mal

Nululu

(840 posts)
89. Grieving is normal
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 06:02 PM
Sep 2020

Sorry your friend couldn't offer her support. I wish I could offer more but this is such a terrible time and my heart hurts for you. Keep your head up and anyone who tries to shut down your grief is not your friend.

soldierant

(6,800 posts)
90. Your friend may be well meaning (you're the best judge of that),
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 06:34 PM
Sep 2020

but SHEESH! GeneralLy they wait until after the funeral (still way too soon, even delayed as this one will be) to start with that - stuff.

I blame Helen Steiner Rice for a lot of it. When someone tries to tell me not to weep for them when they are gone, I flat tell them, that is not their decision but mine. That's not being loving or setting peole free, it's being iobsessively controlling. You need to handle your own grief in the way, and in the timeline, that is best for you. (End of rant.)

And I am not the first to say this here, but YOU. ARE. NOT. A. PEST.

CTyankee

(63,893 posts)
91. You must miss him so much.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 08:47 PM
Sep 2020

Loss, it seems, must be borne and what I found out during grief for a beloved one was that it had to take its own time. I wrote about her. I kept a daily diary about it, how I felt each day after, but always the pain. The hole in my heart. I truly thought that it would never go away.

Now, 10 years after, a wonderful thing has happened. My grandchild, born a biological male, has told his mother, my daughter, that he wishes to transition to a female and he wants to take our beloved lost one (her great aunt) NAME! It is not a common name. It is old fashioned. It is lovely. And I know my beloved lost one, my sister in law, whom I mourned and mourned and mourned, will now live in spirit within my grandchild.

Thank you for reminding us of our common humanity: we mourn our losses of fellow human beings whom we love.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
92. There are several ears here when you need a friendly ear to talk to.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:17 PM
Sep 2020

VerbalBarb

(2 posts)
93. Take your own good time, Soph
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

I'm so very, very sorry, Soph. My heart hurts for you.

Your friend needs to step back and understand that everyone mourns in their own way, in their own time. You'll make plans when you're ready to make plans. In the meantime, do what you need to do to for yourself, whatever it may be. You have a right to it.

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
94. You do you!
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:00 PM
Sep 2020

We'll be here to listen.

deek

(3,414 posts)
95. {{{soph}}}
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 12:25 AM
Sep 2020

i wish i could somehow take away just a bit of your pain

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