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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:50 PM Mar 2020

So, making a big pot of chicken veggie soup, like I often do on Sundays ... A Leek Question ...

I like a mixture of chicken (i.e. bones and various scraps from chicken) and veggie-flavored stock.

For the rest of the stock besides the chicken part, I use italian parsley, onion, celery greens, bay leaf, coriander seeds, peppercorns, buncha garlic w/skin, and a bit of chicken bouillon (the nasty unhealthy kind with MSG and Palm Oil, from Knorr ... hey, I can only take this healthy thing so far).

Yesterday though I saw leeks at the store and thought ... hey ... I bet that'd be good in there!

But I rarely use them, and was wondering ... do you use the leaves too for something like stock? Or just the stalks?

It's all strained after simmering about 3 hours of course ... then the 'solid' ingredients are added and cooked about 1 more hour. Except for the white meat and squash ... I don't like those overdone. White meat paradoxically gets dry and stringy pretty easy and long-neck squash will like disintegrate.

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So, making a big pot of chicken veggie soup, like I often do on Sundays ... A Leek Question ... (Original Post) mr_lebowski Mar 2020 OP
Never mind I thought it was a plumbing question. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #1
... checks to see if he accidentally posted in the ever-popular DU Plumbing forum ... nt mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #2
is that a crack about plumbers whistler162 Mar 2020 #23
Leeks. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #24
I would use them. ZZenith Mar 2020 #3
Damn homey this already gonna be nutrifical AF ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #5
Flavor, Schmavor. ZZenith Mar 2020 #8
Huh ... immune system, you say? mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #10
One of many such citations: ZZenith Mar 2020 #16
Now that's what I call 'coming correct' ... like u always do bruddah ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #18
You've obviously never tasted my wife's soup. ZZenith Mar 2020 #19
I take it it's most definitely NOT a copy of the Tuscan Sausage Kale soup from Olive Garden? mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #20
Ha! Take out the Tuscan and the Sausage and you have her soup. ZZenith Mar 2020 #22
If you took out the Tuscan and Sausage it wouldn't be Tuscan Sausage Soup, would it? mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #25
Just scrub well. Organic leeks can be muddy throughout OhNo-Really Mar 2020 #28
I never have.... lisa58 Mar 2020 #4
We cut up the whole thing and use everything. SeattleVet Mar 2020 #6
you can use all of it katusha Mar 2020 #7
So should I cut the leaves real thin and cook 'em with the carrots and such? mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #12
yes more for flavor tho n/t katusha Mar 2020 #21
Depends on how much of the leaves are still on there. LuvLoogie Mar 2020 #9
A good 4" above the thick stock part in this case ... they definitely 'fanning' ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #11
Yes, thin. Especially the thicker green parts... LuvLoogie Mar 2020 #13
Ooooh, I was thinking of making a little roux with pepper, ghee and flour ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #17
what ever you decide about the leaves just be sure you wash them thoroughly yellowdogintexas Mar 2020 #14
Oh, the leaves look like they're dragged through a puddle of mud you kidding me? So LOL yeah! nt mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #15
It depends. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #26
Leeks are great! Turbineguy Mar 2020 #27
Just make certain to clean them Golden Raisin Mar 2020 #29
Way too late for that, I'm eatin' now! mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #30
For very tender chicken white meat, have you ever tried poaching the breasts? (There's a Martha fierywoman Mar 2020 #31
That's basically exactly what I do ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #32
Tell mrs lebowski to keep you! fierywoman Mar 2020 #33
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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Damn homey this already gonna be nutrifical AF ...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

I'z asking if they gonna contribute positively to mah flavor profile, you un'estan?

ZZenith

(4,122 posts)
8. Flavor, Schmavor.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:00 PM
Mar 2020

There’s a pandemic going on! My concern for your immune system outweighs my concern for your tastebuds!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. Huh ... immune system, you say?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:14 PM
Mar 2020

Got a particular insight about Leek Leaves wrt Immune System boosting?

If you can sell me on that angle, they're in like Flynn

ZZenith

(4,122 posts)
16. One of many such citations:
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:30 PM
Mar 2020
”In addition to the nutritional benefits, leeks are also known as a natural remedy to fight a number of illnesses. Leeks have antibacterial, anti-fungal, anti-viral properties and are packed with a number of vitamins, minerals and antioxidants. For this reason, they are consumed around the world for several health benefits and medicinal purposes.“


“10. BOOSTS IMMUNE SYSTEM

It is loaded with Vitamin A, which is considered vital to regulate the immune system. Vitamin A strengthens the body to fight against infections and is, therefore, an important element in fighting against illnesses. Including leeks in your diet on a regular basis can help you strengthen your immune system. Moreover, the anti-inflammatory properties of leeks also make it easier to prevent illnesses.“



https://www.dailyhealthseries.com/11-health-benefits-leeks/



And yes, the leaves contain a lot of those nutrients. I am sitting here eating some of my wife’s kale soup so I don’t want to hear any more whining about flavor.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
18. Now that's what I call 'coming correct' ... like u always do bruddah ...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:33 PM
Mar 2020

I'm already negotiatin' their inclusion downthread

Kale is pretty good in soup actually. The Tuscan Sausage Kale soup at Olive Garden is freaking BOMB.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
20. I take it it's most definitely NOT a copy of the Tuscan Sausage Kale soup from Olive Garden?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:45 PM
Mar 2020

Which is something I've made ... came out damn near a perfect copy.

Pretty simple, too ... tell her Mr. L told her ass to look it up, and make that next time, so her man will be properly satisfied!

ZZenith

(4,122 posts)
22. Ha! Take out the Tuscan and the Sausage and you have her soup.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:49 PM
Mar 2020

Being married to a vegan has its advantages. I guess.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
25. If you took out the Tuscan and Sausage it wouldn't be Tuscan Sausage Soup, would it?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:32 PM
Mar 2020

Could probably make a passable version with veggie stock, plant-based sausage & coconut milk I bet!

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
6. We cut up the whole thing and use everything.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

Especially in a soup or stew, the leaves usually get nice and tender.

katusha

(809 posts)
7. you can use all of it
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:59 PM
Mar 2020

i usually save the leaves for potato-leek soup.
interesting fact, you have stumbled on the 2nd tier veggies for a stock.
the first tier is celery, carrot, and onion also known as mirpoix
the second tier is leek, parsnip, and turnip. it takes it to another level in my opinion.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. So should I cut the leaves real thin and cook 'em with the carrots and such?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:20 PM
Mar 2020

They soften up nice after a hour or so low simmer, aka approx the same time it takes carrots to soften?

LuvLoogie

(6,999 posts)
9. Depends on how much of the leaves are still on there.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:02 PM
Mar 2020

Sometimes they leave them on where they are fanning out, in which case I would trim a good amount.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. A good 4" above the thick stock part in this case ... they definitely 'fanning' ...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:16 PM
Mar 2020

Keeping in mind they'll be strained not eaten ... you think they make the stock taste any better by using 'em?

Or should I slice 'em real thin and cook 'em in with the edible stuff like the carrots and celery? Would that be good?

LuvLoogie

(6,999 posts)
13. Yes, thin. Especially the thicker green parts...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:23 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe saute them a little before they go into the stock.

I also like to grill leeks sliced lengthwise with a little olive oil and salt.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
17. Ooooh, I was thinking of making a little roux with pepper, ghee and flour ...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:31 PM
Mar 2020

Perfect opportunity to saute up some of the leaves, right in the roux? I'm thinking yeah!

yellowdogintexas

(22,252 posts)
14. what ever you decide about the leaves just be sure you wash them thoroughly
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:26 PM
Mar 2020

because dirt/sand sticks in all those leaves.

I love potato leek soup!!! You can also braise them as a side dish.
Cut them in half longways and put them cut side down in a skillet with a little melted butter and brown just a little bit. Add a little bit of water, cover and steam until tender.

You can cook baby bok choy this way too

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
27. Leeks are great!
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mar 2020

I make Split Pea Soup as I learned in the Netherlands and use the whole leek. You have to cut it up and then wash it.

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
29. Just make certain to clean them
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

carefully (slit open and soak/wash under running water) as they can be full of sand/grit. They are delicious.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
30. Way too late for that, I'm eatin' now!
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:20 PM
Mar 2020

The stalk went in chopped into 4 big pieces. I washed them after I chopped 'em but only what was exposed.

Fortunately, you know what's another word for dirt? MINERALS!

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
31. For very tender chicken white meat, have you ever tried poaching the breasts? (There's a Martha
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

Stewart recipe online.) I'd start my whole chicken broth process (if I was aiming for very tender white meat) as if I were poaching. After however many minutes it is (something like 20) I'd remove the breasts, wait for them to cool down, take the meat off the bones, throw the bones back in the pot, put the white meat away (optimal, I think, is in a little of the broth.) I'd use two groups of veggies: one to flavor the stock (to be thrown out when stock is finished) and new veggies to cook for serving. No, you're not wasting food -- by the time the first group of veggies is cooked a few hours, all the nutrition is in the water and the fiber isn't much to talk about.
I'm a long time hard core foodie and I only recently learned that the green part of the leek can be used, you just have to cook it longer 'cuz it's tougher than the white/light green part. I think sometimes it's cut in small rings and fried to use as a garnish. Most importantly with leeks, as stated above, you need to wash them carefully.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
32. That's basically exactly what I do ...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:27 PM
Mar 2020

I actually steam the chicken for about 25 mins, breast side up (I mean, it's already cooked, this is to soften the carcass and make it easy to remove the bones). That way breast takes less heat. Then I set all the meat aside except what's stuck on the bones, that goes into stock.


And yeah, I make the stock with veggies and herbs I'm NOT eating, then strain, return liquid to pot, add the tougher veggies and dark meat, then later the white meat and softer veggies.

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