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[Kali]

1. interesting

Had no idea of the history.

[marble falls]

2. Here's a piece of history for you ....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

This needs posting but its too long to snip down to size. Its really upsetting: Ford and GM were complicit with the Third Reich.

[Kali]

4. Knew about Ford, though not details

Money too often comes first.

[Harker]

3. Nice change from ersatzkaffee.

Mmmmm.

[marble falls]

5. Chicory is good for you, keep telling yourself, Chicory is good for you.

[Mersky]

6. Ugh. Nazi cheese water soda.

Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

I'll add that to my list of what's wrong with Coca-Cola.

And ponder the other points of historical corporate industrial fuckery, like how Standard Oil/Exxon's push for leaded gasoline delayed for decades the banning of lead based consumer products in the U.S.

Or how bout Bayer's history of selling heroin, then working with the Nazi's deadly chemical company AG Farben, and now poised to hose the American landscape with all manner of poisons under loosened/unenforced restrictions while people living in the area/eating the stuff are exposed to the inflaming agents, then pop a heart medication made by Bayer. Gosh darn it, Bayer sells the seeds being planted as well. I cannot understand how they can control such a chain of products. Oh, wait, they merged with Monsanto under the tRump admin.

All of these are fine, superb, unbelievably fitting examples of what is wrong with corporate personhood and the Citizen's United decision.

Upon edit: Can go to Snopes's take on this if you're not sure about the link up there. Yes, they rank it as false, but the point remains the same -- just read it. To the extent that Coca Cola owned the Fanta brand in Germany then, and to this day,... and celebrated its origins in 2015, the issue of how a brand can commit errors and be complicit with atrocity, then be forgotten is jaw-dropping. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-reich-stuff

[marble falls]

8. This agrees with the article, from Snopes ...

"Fanta was invented in Germany when the war made it difficult to get Coca-Cola syrup from the USA to Germany.

It is the last that is closest to the truth; the other three are naught but canard."

The article doesn't claim Nazi's invented Fanta or even that Max Kieth was any kind of a Nazi, he created it to keep Coca Cola as a company alive in Germany and he created it out of what he had.

The article title is: 'How Fanta Was Created for Nazi Germany not 'by Nazi Germany'.

The Snopes article actually agrees with the article from Atlas Obscura.

[Mersky]

11. Yes, thanks for the backup on that

I wasn't sure about the OP link up there, but I am interested in the discussion, as industrialists screwing over human beings is a pet concern of mine.

[Ron Obvious]

7. Beats Orange Crush any day, though

Provided you get the Mexican cane sugar version.

A rare treat for me these days.

[abqtommy]

9. This is interesting history, and it reminds me of the fictional movie

"One, Two, Three" that has James Cagney portraying a Coca-Cola executive in post-WWII West Berlin.
This is one of my favorite movie comedies!

[Brother Buzz]

10. Russia loves their Pepsi

The closing gag:

Russians sneak Pepsi bottles into the Coca Cola machine in West Berlin just to goad C.R. MacNamara (James Cagney), top manager of the German Coca Cola branch.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

12. Cagney's last movie for a long time.

He had such a hard time memorizing his lines for that long 1-2-3 speech that he decided to retire.