So the latest Windows 10 "update" has fucked my son's laptop

[Orrex]

I don't have a particular error message to report, but it has resulted in significantly reduced efficiency and has visibly slowed performance.

How do I undo this "update?"

Please don't tell me that Google is my friend, because fuck that. When I Googled it, the top 50 responses were along the lines of "How to uninstalling how to undo windows 10 update errors" and "What's the correct way to solve undo latest windows 10 update error ..."

Do any of the actual humans here among us have any suggestions?

[BootinUp]

1. I would just reboot 5 times or so

Allowing time for HD activity to slow b4 each reboot.

[Orrex]

6. Seriously? That would be great if it works, but...

what would it be doing in those five reboots that would correct the problem?

[BootinUp]

11. That is how windows optimizes

The hard drive. Plus it will trigger certain troubleshooting automagically.

[Alsteen]

2. undo

Go to windows update and click on view update history and then on remove updates. Doubt it's the update though ...

[Orrex]

4. Thanks, I'll try that.

Don't know what else it would be.

It ran fine up until he shut-down-and-updated last night, and it was fucked as soon as the update completed today.

[Orrex]

12. That worked like a charm. Thanks!

[shraby]

3. Restore it to an earlier date. That might remove the update.

[Orrex]

5. Thanks. I'll give it a try.

[still_one]

7. Depends on the update. If it is a major update, and within 30 days of installation

go to Settings by selecting the start windows icon on the bottom left of the window, and then select the Gear icon
Select Update & Security
Select Recovery
If it has been within 30 days you should have the option: Go back to the previous version of Windows 10


good luck

[mn9driver]

8. Same thing happened to me.

The last update made my laptop nearly unusable. I’m going to back up all my documents and photos and do a clean install. And also turn off automatic updates.

[Cary]

9. It fried my BIOS

There are a series of possible fixes. Start by creating a bootable flash drive. You will need a clean flash drive at least 8 GB. When you boot with the flash drive, at the first blue screen press and hold escape. Choose boot from the flash drive. You will have 5 options including repair.

You can go back to a prior restore point, before the update. This worked for me before. This time not so much.

Google "windows 10 will not boot after update." It's probably a conflict with a driver, for whatever good that will do.

Do frequent backups. I had to reinstall Windows which of course wiped me out. Fortunately I had an up the the minute backup. That saved me.

Not the worst thing, in retrospect. I was forced to clean stuff up.

[doc03]

10. I downloaded their update weeks ago and I got a message

that it couldn't update because of a #???????????. I called the number they provided a couple times
and was cut off. I tried to do it on line at the URL they provided and got a salution only a software
engineer could decipher. Still every time I start the computer I get a message to download the damn update.

[IncaRoads]

13. Data

If you can't get in to back-up for some reason you could use a Linux live USB to possibly remove your files before doing a clean install.

[UTUSN]

14. No solution here, but similar/lesser malfunctioning: Is it the "Features" update?

A different from previous prompt window touted a "New Features" update. Ever since installing it, one "little" thing, have had to sign-in with the PIN: Twice. I just looked into the Settings sign-in and there is an option for "verification of identity" that involves sending a seven digit security code to my e-mail. This doesn't suit me, don't want yet another code/password/whatever.

Anyway, have lost saved stuff...

[Orrex]

15. We were able to fix it by undoing the latest update

I don't have the specs in front of me, but his laptop was brand new last December, with Windows 10 installed @ purchase.

It's ridiculous that a "fix" can so thoroughly hose systems that should be able to run it just fine.

[LuckyCharms]

16. My desktop tower and monitor both shit the bed recently...

That tower was running windows 7, and was 4 to 5 years old.

Instead of pursuing a repair, I decided to bite the bullet and buy a new PC which was loaded with Windows 10, as well as an updated monitor.

When booting up the new PC for the first time, it told me that I needed to update Windows 10. That alone took about 6 hours.

Then, it took me another 3 hours or so to uninstall all of the crap that came pre-loaded with Windows 10. This was stuff that I will never use (games, apps, etc.).

Then, add about another 3 hour learning curve because Windows 10 is much different than Windows 7.

6+3+3=12 hours to set up a new computer for a moderately intelligent and moderately tech savvy human.

So far, the Windows 10 operating system seems to be working ok, but I am still not used to it. Your OP on the updating difficulties has me thinking that I might want to revert back to Windows 7 until I am forced to update. I had zero problems with Windows 7 Professional.

[Orrex]

18. That's close to my experience as well

My son's laptop took four or five hours to update, then about 90 minutes to un-fuck it yesterday.

When we initially gave him the brand new laptop, I likewise spent a lot of time customizing and deleting blah blah blah, just to get it to a point where it doesn't firehose you with nonstop ad content.

I'm the "Admin" on his laptop, so that I can control installs and deletions (he's 11), and every time I log in I get a ten minute "welcome back, here's what's changed" presentation that I absolutely do not need.

Big pain in the ass. Give me Windows XP and I'll be a happy guy forever.

[bench scientist]

20. Sorry for your frustrations. Switch to Mac you'll ever go back to PC.

[Orrex]

23. I always think back to the experience of a good friend of mine

Professional wedding photographer. In the space of one year his Mac cost him tens of thousands in lost photos and video, and he repeatedly had to return it to the Apple store for various hardware problems.

In that single year he spent more to have his Mac fixed then all of my friends combined have spent in the past 20 years to get their PCs fixed. Not to mention that the initial purchase price of the Mac is several times the cost of an equivalent PC.

YMMV, but even with the current pain in the ass, you Mac folks can keep them!

[bench scientist]

24. Windows is the worst!lol I do love my Mac.

But I’m sorry for your troubles. Glad you were able to undue the update.
Have a lovely Holiday Orrex!

[Orrex]

25. You also!

In this holiday season, it's nice that even Mac and PC people can share goodwill!

[True Dough]

35. "You Mac folks can keep them!"

I can relate to that sentiment.

I'm glad the Mac devotees are so loyal to their products. I'm just not one of those people. Nothing about them seems intuitive. I used them for a few years in university (granted that's quite a while ago now), but I disliked the experience immensely!

Glad you're back on track, Orrex.

[Submariner]

33. After probably a decade of seeing comments like yours

I abandoned my Windows 10 PC (upgraded from the already lousy Windows 8.1) and now have an iMac 27-inch screen with a lightning speed solid-state hard-drive (like a giant flash drive).

And no one gets it until they pry it from my cold dead carpal-tunneled hands.

[bench scientist]

34. Lol I will never go back!

Have a Happy Holiday Submariner !

[CrispyQ]

29. Imagine that at the end of your life, someone offers you more time & you can choose from:

A. All the time I've spent standing in line during my life.

B. All the time I've spent sitting at traffic lights during my life.

C. All the time I've spent fucking with MS Windows during my life.


I'd choose C.

[LuckyCharms]

17. It kept asking me for a password when signing in...

so I Googled a way to kill that feature. I can't remember exactly where it was in Windows 10, but it had to do with finding the screen that enabled you to change your password. You have to input a new password, and then type it again immediately below to verify the new one.

If you don't want to use a password when signing in, you just leave both of these fields blank, and hit enter. It seemed to work for me. Just Google something like "want to kill password feature on windows 10" and you should find it. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll see if I can locate it.

[UTUSN]

19. Thanks, lots, will try it soon.

Last edited Thu Dec 21, 2017, 11:57 PM - Edit history (1)

**********LATER, am about to try this:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-security/have-to-enter-pin-twice/b5c075c4-cade-4f28-8773-06ebe46e9300?auth=1

Go to Settings  > Accounts  >  Sign-in options.
Scroll down to Privacy and Toggle OFF  "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device after an update or restart."

**********WILL post results

[UTUSN]

21. WOW, *thanks* - you got me to find a fix!1

We had slightly different problems, mine being having to sign-in TWICE with my PIN. I googled "windows 10 sign-in pin twice double two" and one result was the link in my post above.

It *WORKED* - "toggling" OFF what was ON. I just now powered off and back on and only had to sign-in ONCE. Thanks for getting me on the right road!1

[LuckyCharms]

22. Great! Glad to hear. n/t

[Historic NY]

26. I had one of the Windows 10 updates kill my ability to

open Epson photo scanner menu. After 4+ hrs between Windows & Epson they still don't have a solution. Uninstall & reinstall didn't work I bought new software from an independent provider and it returned it to use. What good is a photo scanner than won't scan film or slides? Lots of unhappy users with this problem.

[underpants]

27. Software for people with certain disabilities also can't run on it

[2naSalit]

28. Last year

someone posted a link to a "Never 10" download to prevent updates from loading Windows 10 on my computer. It prevents the Win10 from loading but I can't receive updates anymore, I had a few glitches for a months or two and all my past restore points are gone now. I also perform Disk Cleanup every time I leave the web, that may be where the restore points went.

[Orrex]

30. I'll have to find that--thanks!

[2naSalit]

31. Look here...

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3048836/windows/never10-is-a-free-app-for-when-you-absolutely-positively-dont-want-windows-10.html

[UTUSN]

32. Another bug: Just happened again, suddenly the thing does a Restart apropos of nothing

Out of the blue, just cuts out from whatever, screen goes black and Restart ensues. The odd thing, unlike the usual Restart, when log-in is done, it goes back to the site that was being viewed at the time of the cutting out.