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Economist Rosenberg Warns Spread Between CCC, BB Is 'Canary in Coal Mine' (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jan 2020 OP
'Who is holding onto corporate debt' pbmus Jan 2020 #1
Funny, how there will be money for bail outs but no money for Medicare for All Yavin4 Jan 2020 #5
Not if we have a tax strike. Or a published list of those applying for the bailout. ancianita Jan 2020 #6
Double B bonds are risky enough Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #2
K&R Thanks for posting. alwaysinasnit Jan 2020 #3
I like Rosenberg. I used to read his notes a lot. Lucky Luciano Jan 2020 #4

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
1. 'Who is holding onto corporate debt'
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jan 2020

We are...

Once again the people will bail out corporate America, 🤬

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
5. Funny, how there will be money for bail outs but no money for Medicare for All
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:49 PM
Jan 2020

Funny how that works.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
6. Not if we have a tax strike. Or a published list of those applying for the bailout.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 07:41 AM
Jan 2020

OR stipulate that bailout only after complete transparency, following the money to create the map created of where and who.

Or to pay THEIR debt, have all their assets liquidated, sold off to groups of citizens' pension fund capital 'managers,' who then auction them off to smaller investors. Then we'd find out just how much of this "debt" is just paper.



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Double B bonds are risky enough
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jan 2020

but triple C's,they are Junkers through and through. From what little Bloomberg talked about yesterday,these are mostly Used Car Loans with underlying Credits scores that are sub subprime rated.

Notice the heavy hitters are working the spreads via derivatives and just what could go wrong. Think the Housing bonds of 2006. Junk begets junk. Think these were cobbled together in order to load Pensions Funds and Insurance company annuities with some crap to sell.

Lucky Luciano

(11,254 posts)
4. I like Rosenberg. I used to read his notes a lot.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jan 2020

He is generally a negative person, but smart. I think he left Gluskin Sheff to start his own research firm.

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