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ancianita

(35,812 posts)
2. WHAT?? Making fun of stupid anti-vaxers is stoopid? That's mean.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:24 PM
Oct 2019

When he seldom writes, this is what he means.

1. You cannot get the flu from the flu vaccine. Ever. No matter what anyone’s told you. You CAN get an immune response such as low grade fever, mild inflammation, or local redness and swelling. This is GOOD. It means your body is fighting the inactivated virus it’s been exposed to and it will build immune cells specific to fighting that virus if it ever sees it again..... hence the entire premise behind getting vaccinated. It takes your body about two weeks to build fighter cells and for the vaccine to reach its maximum protectiveness. If you get sick within a week or two of receiving the vaccine, then you were exposed to influenza and hadn’t yet received protection from your vaccine. Crappy timing.
Period.

2. The vaccine does NOT cause strokes, auto-immune diseases, or severe allergic reactions. There is a very small percentage of people who’s bodies do not react normally and therefore those people should not receive the vaccine. Let me put it this way; I swell up like Violet in the Willy Wonka factory if I eat avocado. I think we can all agree that avocados aren’t dangerous, my body is the problem, not the food. Likewise, the vaccine is safe but like all things (even avocados) it can be dangerous for certain people. I cannot stress enough how rare this is, even though literally every online guru with a degree in alternative wellness claims to know someone it’s happened to.

3. If you’re healthy, good for you. No, seriously, good for you. You have the luxury of deciding whether or not you want to get poked. If you get the flu, you’ll miss a couple days of school, maybe a week off of work and then you’ll return to your life. That’s not the case for many people in our community.

When healthy people vaccinate, we protect the newborns and the grandparents and the chemo patients and the ones who truly cannot receive the vaccine. It’s called herd immunity, and it’s the cornerstone of a healthy society.

4. You did not get the “stomach flu” from the influenza vaccine. The stomach virus commonly called the “stomach flu” is not a flu at all. Stomach viruses are commonly caused by novovirus or norovirus , not influenza. If you have symptoms such as vomiting and diarrhea with a fever right after receiving the flu vaccine you are the unfortunate recipient of a sad coincidence. This sad coincidence is not uncommon since peak seasons of these virus’ activity overlap. I know you don’t want that to be true, but, science. In that same vein, if you get “the stomach flu” on a year you’ve received the influenza vaccine, your vaccine did not fail. The vaccine you received does not protect against stomach virus. Stay tuned though, vaccines for these viruses are all but guaranteed to be common in the coming years!

5. The drug companies and the CDC and all doctors and all nurses and everyone ever who advocated for vaccination are all paid by and/or brainwashed by big pharma to sell these vaccines by convincing others. Yeah... just no. I’ve never received a check or any other compensation from anyone to advocate for vaccinations of any kind. I don’t know a single person in the medical field (and I know a lot) who has ever received a bribe. I’m just about the most cynical, skeptical human out there and I require a lot of research & data to formulate my opinions, again, most of my colleagues are no different.

If I really wanted to look out for number 1 (me) wouldn’t I try to drum up business at my ER by convincing others NOT to get the flu shots? Wouldn’t I WANT people to become sick so that I had job security?? $$ think about it people. This rationale is just ass backwards. I advocate for vaccines because I’ve held a newborn with fever while the doctor does a lumbar puncture. Because I’ve put a grandfather on a ventilator who couldn’t breathe and because I’ve put the final drape over a mother of 3’s face after she beat breast cancer but died of the flu. I did all of this knowing full well that it was preventable. We had the ability to save those people as a society and we failed because of the precious oils purveyor Lindsey-types in this world who prey on people’s poor information and fear.
Vaccinate!

hlthe2b

(101,728 posts)
3. Saying "Don't vaccinate your baby" is Stupid...
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:28 PM
Oct 2019

May as well advocate for throwing them out in the Australian Outback to "entertain" the dingoes.

If his video (which I can't watch currently) is saying the opposite, fine, but the title remains stupid)

salin

(48,954 posts)
6. It is a great song/parody of what it would take to believe vaxers and disbelief experts (lists r
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 06:15 PM
Oct 2019

really long list of experts) - and exudes the ridiculous confidence of those who adopt the stance - all while strongly (implied) advocating - get your kid vaccinated! If you a get a chance to watch it, I think you would appreciate it.

If the title got someone to watch how was either on the fence or anti-vax - they would turn it off quickly - cuz... gotsta protect oneself from cognitive dissonance.

hlthe2b

(101,728 posts)
15. It doesn't seem fair to be rude to someone who merlely commented on a video title
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:40 PM
Oct 2019

But, that is your manner, apparently (or lack thereof)

AirmensMom

(14,600 posts)
11. This
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:31 PM
Oct 2019

^^^^

By the way, I'm one of those people who can't get a flu vaccination. So I really appreciate it when people around me get it.

AirmensMom

(14,600 posts)
12. I would think
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:34 PM
Oct 2019

that you wouldn't want to comment on a post in the Video & Multimedia Forum if you can't, you know, watch the video.

I agree that it's stupid not to vaccinate, but the video is calling out the stupidity and is brilliantly done. I would watch when/if you can. Then you'll understand the title.

hlthe2b

(101,728 posts)
13. I would think you wouldn't go out of your way to insult someone for doing nothing other than comment
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:37 PM
Oct 2019

on a video title.

Really? Is this your way of interacting? Rudeness is not a virtue.

AirmensMom

(14,600 posts)
16. I wasn't insulting.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:42 PM
Oct 2019

Sorry you took it that way. You are right that rudeness is not a virtue. Yet you are being rude. Have a nice day.

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