Hong Kong's huge protests, explained

[yuiyoshida]

[Auggie]

1. Thank you for posting. Kicked and recommended.

[sagesnow]

2. K & R

[FM123]

3. "We are just fighting for what we believe in."

We believe in you Hong Kong and we stand with you.

[soryang]

4. They took it lying down for 155 years of autocratic British rule

it never was a democracy.

I prefer K J Noh's analysis. The US and UK are behind this. They are cynically motivated to give China a black eye, and they could care less what happens to the idealistic people being misled when their color revolution by the numbers fails.

https://popularresistance.org/hong-kong-protests-and-the-shifting-global-power-dynamics/

[Duppers]

5. I cannot believe you're equating British "autocratic" rule

With what China is offering! Wow.

You're saying that 1.7 million people protesting in the streets in Hong Kong have their heads up their asses? That they are "racists"? That Mainland has better human rights than the horrible British Hong Kong rule? K J Noh's analysis cherry-picked their facts. Yes, the US is terribly flawed and all that the podcast said it is, thanks to the fuckin' rethugians, but to say China is a better model for human rights and self-determination? Wow, again!



(Btw, I've been to the mainland twice, have friends there who've candidly discussed their country when living/studying abroad. And i read slanted Chinese news.
Another btw, as long as the corporate political party has so much power in the US, we're also not a democracy and are only pretending to be.)

[soryang]

6. Imperialism and totalitarianism are related phenomena

Hannah Arendt The Origins of Totalitarianism.

[Duppers]

7. Explain why the corporate seats in Hong Kong's

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legislature are Pro-China?

Those Corporate seats in the legislature are dominate and their being pro-China directly contradicts your argument. And makes you seem, well, just anti-democratic.

Remember ...

In 1989, after several weeks of demonstrations, Chinese troops entered Tiananmen Square on June 4 and fired on civilians. Estimates of the death toll range from several hundred to thousands.
It has been estimated that as many as 10,000 people were arrested during and after the protests.
Several dozen people have been executed for their parts in the demonstrations.

[soryang]

8. You're the defender of the UK and US meddling in Chinese affairs

You explain it.

[Duppers]

9. Tiananmen Square viewing

In '89 my husband & I sat in our flat in Cambridge with our dear Chinese friend watching Tiananmen Square play out until CNN's live broadcasting was stopped by the Chinese authorities. Our friend had been celebrating what he thought was the coming revolution in China. We disagreed and shared our fears with him. With the eventual leaked facts, our worries were proven warranted and our Chinese friend became very saddened. Another but younger Chinese colleague and friend of his at Cambridge U. defected and fled to Canada rather than return home to Shanghai. On his last night in Cambridge, we shared a beer with this young friend.

I'm at a loss to explain how British rule equates to China's. And why we should turn a blind eye to those seeking more freedoms.

Goodbye. 🐦

[soryang]

10. Read The China Mirage by James Bradley

Because it's none of our business.

[tomhagen]

11. Why aren't WE in the streets like this??????