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Conned by a Fast talking Game Show Bullshit Artist (Original Post) tomhagen Aug 2019 OP
Perfect title on this thread Ohioboy Aug 2019 #1
Action plan: Rural billboards w/single question---Tired of all this 'winning' yet? PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #19
Effing sad... B Stieg Aug 2019 #2
They voted for him. Fuck 'em. Botany Aug 2019 #3
Yep, as Maya Angelou said: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them." brush Aug 2019 #5
+1 lunasun Aug 2019 #21
Indeed, fuck 'em - but, packman Aug 2019 #6
I wouldn't worry too much about them. Small farms have largely been replaced by corporate farming, CCExile Aug 2019 #14
Remember farm aid/??????? DENVERPOPS Aug 2019 #16
Not to worry. Conagra and Agway will take up the slack after they buy the foreclosed farms. 3Hotdogs Aug 2019 #24
If you don't eat corporate beef and pork jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #20
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #4
These people don't due their due duiligence in vetting the con man Perseus Aug 2019 #7
The creature is not even "fast talking", that is giving it too much credit. Perseus Aug 2019 #8
"What do you tell your children who want to farm?" Vote DEM. nt NCjack Aug 2019 #9
Does anybody recall SCVDem Aug 2019 #10
Dem moves rough on farmers bubbazero Aug 2019 #11
FDR DENVERPOPS Aug 2019 #17
Well, they never heard Romney or any Republican say anything bad dalton99a Aug 2019 #12
Renville isn't far from Mrs. Geardaddy's dad's farm. geardaddy Aug 2019 #13
Sounds like Farm Fest Wellstone ruled Aug 2019 #26
trump doesn't care. Corporate farmers will continue to cheerlead this path until family farmers are rainin Aug 2019 #15
"there doesn't appear to be a Plan B" Skittles Aug 2019 #18
Ya hey there trump farmers but what about trump's good work on Muslims, Mexicans &his fetus love?? lunasun Aug 2019 #22
It hurts to vote republican. NBachers Aug 2019 #23
I liked Brian Tyler Cohen's comments patphil Aug 2019 #25

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
1. Perfect title on this thread
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Aug 2019

Trump has a history of destroying people financially. He has done it to contractors of his buildings and suppliers of his businesses. Now he is doing it to the American farmer. People need to wake up to this con.

Botany

(70,489 posts)
3. They voted for him. Fuck 'em.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:04 AM
Aug 2019

Trump had a long and very public history over not paying his bills, business failures,
sexual assaults, and very public lies (I finished @ the top of my class @ Wharton) and
yet they still voted for him? Trump's history was out there for everybody to see.

Ride around in your tractor and listen to Rush and Sean Hannity lie to you as they try to
get you angry @ the lib-tards and then go and vote because we had to stop Hillary and
her liberal agenda.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
6. Indeed, fuck 'em - but,
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:19 AM
Aug 2019

these are the folks (be they assholes for voting and believing his lies) who provide the food for you and me. And that is scary.

CCExile

(468 posts)
14. I wouldn't worry too much about them. Small farms have largely been replaced by corporate farming,
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 03:03 PM
Aug 2019

and except for a tiny proportion of enlightened farmers, use the same growing methods involving all of the same chemicals and practices. A good portion of our food now comes from out of the country. It may be time to turn agrarian areas back into territories overseen by non-voting corporations. For fifty years or more we have been stifled by low population, conservative, under-educated, overly "religious" districts.

DENVERPOPS

(8,809 posts)
16. Remember farm aid/???????
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 04:56 PM
Aug 2019

The small and average farmers were going bankrupt and selling everything they owned to the large corporate farmers for ten cents on the dollar. I guess the Powers to be want to see that happen all over again, so that ALL the small and average farmers will have to sell what is remaining to the Large Corporate Farmers. Small farmers aren't dieing, they are being killed off and the small farmers all voted for the dimwit that is doing this to them...........

I remember election night watching TV after the results were announced and a newwork talking head was interviewing James Carville.
Carville was laughing and the interviewer asked him: What are YOU laughing about?
Carville smiled and said one simple line: "People are about to learn in a big hurry that their votes have consequences........"

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
20. If you don't eat corporate beef and pork
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:26 PM
Aug 2019

Those farmers probably aren't feeding you.

Here in Iowa, where 99 percent of the corn grown is for livestock feed, there's very little land given over to feeding those of us who don't eat their product.

I'd say nearly 99 percent of my diet is provided by farmers in other parts of the country and in other countries despite so much of Iowa having been turned from prairie to corn and soybean fields.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
7. These people don't due their due duiligence in vetting the con man
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:27 AM
Aug 2019

What I would tell her children is to stop believing stupidity, to make sure to study the candidates, to stop voting for one issue (usually abortion), that if their parents had done their due diligence, had learned who the "real donald trump" is, they would have never voted for that creature.

Farmers were overwhelmingly for the creature, now they need to make sure they reverse that choice, that this time around they stop believing in republicans, because any of them will make sure farmers continue hurting. Get republicans out of office, by now they should know these people lie.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. The creature is not even "fast talking", that is giving it too much credit.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:28 AM
Aug 2019

"Fast lying" is a better term for the creature.

bubbazero

(296 posts)
11. Dem moves rough on farmers
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:58 PM
Aug 2019

Carter; Grain embargo to Russia/USSR--one of three factors kicking off farm crisis of the 80's................Clinton; Changes to USDA rules for family farms, (loosened so big operations could get around pmt limits) --TYSON FOODS ruled by judge under new rules to be a family farm operation. (quoting Farm Journal--imagine Mrs. Don Tyson out scattering grain to the chickens)...........Obama; Thanks to Tom Vilsack not anything major that farmers complain about. Most farmers really only mad at Carter for embargo, tho many at the time understood why, just wanted a bigger support system. Farm crisis of the 80's would probably have come anyway--too many way over extended--but would not have been as severe, or as fast.

DENVERPOPS

(8,809 posts)
17. FDR
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:00 PM
Aug 2019

Democrat FDR, he pulled them back from the brink of extension.

There is no one on the horizon who is gonna do that this time. (Or do other things like FDR did that saved our nation)

WASF

dalton99a

(81,442 posts)
12. Well, they never heard Romney or any Republican say anything bad
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:05 PM
Aug 2019

about the con man/fake/phony/fraud/liar/cancer/...

No warning at all

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
13. Renville isn't far from Mrs. Geardaddy's dad's farm.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 02:04 PM
Aug 2019

There are a few farmers around there who are really pissed at Il Douche.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
26. Sounds like Farm Fest
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:16 PM
Aug 2019

got real ugly for Sonny Purdue and Company. We used to spend our Summers just south of Renville on the Redwood side of the River. Last Summer the Trumpers had their flags and signs flying everywhere you looked,going to be interesting as their Corn and Bean Markets go South.

My guess is,several of those Private owned Grain Elevator's are going to be in Bankruptcy Court next March or April.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
15. trump doesn't care. Corporate farmers will continue to cheerlead this path until family farmers are
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 03:10 PM
Aug 2019

bankrupt. trump understands the opportunities that recession bring people with capital to spend. This is a win for the uber wealthy. trump knows this.

Farmers are scared. They are hoping they can hang on long enough to save their farms. It's too bad they don't realize that the objective is to squeeze them til they collapse so corporate owners can buy them off pennies on the dollar.

They backed the wrong candidate. They will pay dearly, as will we all.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
18. "there doesn't appear to be a Plan B"
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 05:22 PM
Aug 2019

no, there isn't.....I feel bad for these folk (my grandparents were Minnesota farmers) but WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR DONALD FUCKING TRUMP TO BE PRESIDENT???

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
22. Ya hey there trump farmers but what about trump's good work on Muslims, Mexicans &his fetus love??
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 06:43 PM
Aug 2019

Priorities were made with your vote
sure no $$ for you, but think about all that winning for the USA !!

patphil

(6,169 posts)
25. I liked Brian Tyler Cohen's comments
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019

Particularly at the end of the video where he says, "maybe we should have looked at Trump's definition of winning".
Winning for Trump is not necessarily winning for the nation...and certainly not winning for the farmers.

Patrick Phillips

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