Bill Maher: BDS is a bullshit purity test

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And "scroll" to the 18:54 mark. To 23:00

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1. did someone piss in his cornflakes? definitely not 'woke' enuff to notice

First BDS is only targeted to companies operating in the pre 67 borders, recognized as illegally occupied by the UN.
Second, if he's going to start using pre Nakba population numbers for Jewish populations in the middle east and Africa, he could at least mention where they moved - but he can't - because then he'd have to explain why/how these people were able to re-settle - or does he want us to believe they just evaporated? Holy Fuck Bill. Retire. You've turned into a very grumpy old man with zero comedic value now that weed is mostly legal. Go Away!

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2. "Pre 67 borders?" These were the borders of Israel after its war of Independece in 1948

And were certainly recognized by the UN in its historic vote on Nov. 1947 to end the British Mandate.

Thus, you, too, would like to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Nice to know.

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4. no, not 'thus me too'. Bill gave #'s from '47 - pre-resettlement

If you think it is fair to harp on about the decline of Jewish population outside of Israel after '47 without also commented on where they moved, you, thusly, are not being fair to history.

Was it necessary to clear the land in such a brutal fashion? Or do you believe it was previously a land without a (700,000) people?

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5. Really? Citing history means a person wants Israel wiped off the map?

So tired of that particular bullshit. The typical “any criticism of Israel is by definition anti-Semitic” crapola.

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6. Why not read that post?

Referring to "pre-67 borders" as not recognized by the UN?

Or just open a history book?

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7. History lesson for you. Pre-67 - what it means

The Green Line, or (pre-) 1967 border or 1949 Armistice border,[1] is the demarcation line set out in the 1949 Armistice Agreements between the armies of Israel and those of its neighbors (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria) after the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. It served as the de facto borders of the State of Israel from 1949 until the Six-Day War in 1967.

The name comes from the green ink used to draw the line on the map while the armistice talks were going on.[2] After the Six-Day War, the territories captured by Israel beyond the Green Line came to be designated as East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, and Sinai Peninsula (the Sinai Peninsula has since been returned to Egypt as part of the 1979 peace treaty). These territories are often referred to as Israeli-occupied territories.

The Green Line was intended as a demarcation line rather than a permanent border. The 1949 Armistice Agreements were clear (at Arab insistence[3]) that they were not creating permanent borders. The Egyptian–Israeli agreement, for example, stated that "the Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary, and is delineated without prejudice to rights, claims and positions of either Party to the Armistice as regards ultimate settlement of the Palestine question."[4] Similar provisions are contained in the Armistice Agreements with Jordan and Syria. The Agreement with Lebanon contained no such provisions, and was treated as the international border between Israel and Lebanon, stipulating only that forces would be withdrawn to the Israel–Lebanon border.

The Green Line is often referred to as the "pre-1967 borders" or the "1967 borders" by many international bodies and national leaders, including the former United States president (Barack Obama),[5] Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas,[6] by the United Nations (UN) in informal texts,[7] and in the text of UN General Assembly Resolutions.[8]

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12. 5 Arab armies and Palestinians started a genocidal war against Israel right after the British left

Because the Palestinians rejected partition, the pre 67 borders are irrelevent.

Further, UNSCR 242 called for land swaps to resolve the conflict. It's referred to as the "land for peace" resolution, maybe you've heard of it.

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14. so off topic - but if you need a blood pressure work out, go for it!

All I'm saying here is that Maher is citing population #'s from 1947 - People from outside of Israel so OF COURSE the numbers dropped cause they had a country to go to.

And the BDS movement, which I totally support, as is recognized as legitimate by the government of Canada, Germany, Norway, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland and more - you can look that up yourself - is ONLY targeting businesses operating in the illegal settlements - recognized by the UN as illegal and contrary to the Geneva convention.

Hey - the last piece of art I bought was from Tel Aviv. Its beautiful.

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8. anyways, question everything, I was merely pointing out the flaws in Maher's vomittologue

It has nothing to do with Israel's right to exist. I'm not as smart as Kushner and can't give you answers.
All I'm saying is that Maher is being particularly vile and un-woke in citing the decline in Jewish populations outside of Israel.
Of course there was a decline. And they didn't evaporate. They moved to a Jewish homeland.
And the pre-67 border thing is really not that much a mystery to anyone outside of the USA. Go read a book.
Edit: or read this UN resolution https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/A87AB64E58B5F54785257AF60067435D

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3. Pre 48 population numbers. Fuck off Bill.

The 1948 Palestinian exodus, also known as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة?, al-Nakbah, literally "disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm&quot ,[1] occurred when more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs — about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population — fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1948 Palestine war.[2] Between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were sacked during the war, while urban Palestine was almost entirely extinguished.[3] The term nakba also refers to the period of war itself and events affecting Palestinians from December 1947 to January 1949.

The precise number of refugees, many of whom settled in refugee camps in neighboring states, is a matter of dispute[4] but around 80 percent of the Arab inhabitants of what became Israel (half of the Arab total of Mandatory Palestine) left or were expelled from their homes.[5][6] About 250,000–300,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled before the Israeli Declaration of Independence in May 1948, a fact which was named as a casus belli for the entry of the Arab League into the country, sparking the 1948 Arab–Israeli War.

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11. Pretty much everything in your post is wrong

BDS targets every Jewish owned business in Israel, Judea and Samaria. It also targets foreign companies that do business with Israel.

The Israeli occupation of the "West Bank" is legal and Israel is required to maintain the current status quo.

The "naqba" happened because the Palestinians joined 5 Arab armies with the goal of destroying Israel and lost.

Unlike every other refugee group in the world, the Palestinians have not been integrated into their host countries and left to fester in overcrowded refugee camps so they can be used as a weapon against the Jewish state. There is no historical precedence for this.

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15. bullshit.

It targets not only Jewish owned businesses, it targets any and ALL foreign/non-Palestinian business that operates in the illegal settlements.

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17. "Unlike every other refugee group in the world, the Palestinians have not been integrated into their

"Unlike every other refugee group in the world, the Palestinians have not been integrated into their host countries and left to fester in overcrowded refugee camps so they can be used as a weapon against the Jewish state. There is no historical precedence for this. "

So, are you saying it's the fault of the host countries? Are they treating refugees badly? And implied in your post, these host countries have a conspiratorial plot to make the refugees into terrorists?

If you, on the other hand, want to simply say they have not been given the opportunity to integrate, I think you don't have to look further than the closer backyard of indigenous people's 'reserves'. So not without precedence.

You could also legitimately say that the AA population was segregated by credit and loan policies of the country to keep them from integrating.

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9. Palestinians are people too!

My husband is a Palestinian, born in March of 1948; his mother tells the story of how their village near Haifa was surrounded by the 'Israeli' (Stern and Irgun) forces and because of the shelling of the houses by tanks she covered her two month old son as he lay in his crib. The family was lucky to make it to Lebanon and after waiting many months and even years started a new life. He eventually made it here to America where he is now a US citizen. He is one of the lucky ones. There are still people in Refugee Camps!
These lines, whether green or red, black or white, have real life consequences.
We are all on this little planet together.

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10. Bill Maher Standing Up For Israel

The Israel Project
Published on 31 Jan 2018

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16. The audio quits at 23 minutes.

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18. boycotting a rogue apartheid state is not bullshit