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Rhiannon12866

(205,202 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:14 AM Jul 2019

Stephen Colbert: Guest Jeff Daniels Says "To Kill A Mockingbird" Is A "Right Hook" To White Liberals



Actor Jeff Daniels says that the racial themes of his Broadway play "To Kill A Mockingbird" are a stark wake-up call to a certain group of theater goers.



FYI - If you're looking for tonight's Monologue and Opening, I was required to post it in the Primaries Forum:

Stephen Colbert Post-Debate LIVE - Monologue and Opening - 7/30/19
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287218133


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Stephen Colbert: Guest Jeff Daniels Says "To Kill A Mockingbird" Is A "Right Hook" To White Liberals (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jul 2019 OP
Also he got bleeped for swearing about the travesty of father/daughter in the Rio Grande mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #1
I liked him in The Newsroom - and I guess he really is political! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2019 #2
I am somewhat guessing ... but ... I'm pretty sure he went off so hard they couldn't even mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #3
Thar's a good point though they're allowed to swear on HBO Rhiannon12866 Jul 2019 #4
HBO is cable, not governed by FCC regulations like OTA CBS is. (nt) thesquanderer Jul 2019 #6
Of course, but in either case, youtube is involved as well ... mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #7
The censoring was handled differently because it was a live broadcast thesquanderer Jul 2019 #8
Good info thanks ... but I've seen swear words bleeped out on late-night mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #10
Colbert is almost never live. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #12
I've watched hundreds of episodes, I'm well aware of the Friday thing mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #13
I think handled differently just because it was live thesquanderer Jul 2019 #14
Oh, so that was a 'live' episode? That might explain mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #15
Yes. They went Live for the debate shows (last night and tonight). nt thesquanderer Jul 2019 #16
also, youtube, like HBO, is not governed by FCC rules. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #9
Makes sense, thx (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #11
I don't agree that HRC didn't talk to them. kacekwl Jul 2019 #5
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Also he got bleeped for swearing about the travesty of father/daughter in the Rio Grande
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:01 AM
Jul 2019

(obviously), and says Democrats need someone who's going to punch Trump in the face.

The 'right hook' is actually to white people in general ... he says the play is a wake-up call.

Very worth watching ... he talks a lot of sense.

Rhiannon12866

(205,202 posts)
2. I liked him in The Newsroom - and I guess he really is political!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:07 AM
Jul 2019

I was also impressed! And thanks for that explanation - I kept playing it over since I wanted to make sure there wasn't something wrong with the video before I posted it, that has happened before!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. I am somewhat guessing ... but ... I'm pretty sure he went off so hard they couldn't even
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:15 AM
Jul 2019

show him because it'd have been too obvious he was swearing up a storm.

What's funny though is the John Oliver clips from HBO on youtube usually don't bleep out anything.

But that's HBO. The networks may have a different contract ... I don't know how it all works.

Rhiannon12866

(205,202 posts)
4. Thar's a good point though they're allowed to swear on HBO
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:29 AM
Jul 2019

John Oliver certainly does, Bill Maher, too - and network late night sure has changed. We know what Colbert is saying even though he manages to let us know without actually saying the word. And Jeff Daniels appeared in The Newsroom which was on HBO.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. Of course, but in either case, youtube is involved as well ...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:05 PM
Jul 2019

I'm saying watching John's show vids on youtube, youtube doesn't bleep out his swear words.

It seems like youtube could choose to leave 'em in on a show from a network if they wanted to ... but I suspect that before the vid even GOT to youtube from the Colbert show, it had already been censored.

It was interesting though because it was one of the most heavy-handed censors I've ever seen ... they straight up just cut to the audience for like 3 seconds, with no sound. They didn't just bleep the swears like they normally do on the late-night shows.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
8. The censoring was handled differently because it was a live broadcast
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:42 PM
Jul 2019

There is a brief delay built into the broadcast to accommodate censoring, but it has to be handled on the fly, and cannot be so precisely placed as they can do in an edit of a prerecorded program.

And yes, typically, any feed will reflect what was broadcast. They're not typically going to go back to the original and cut a different version for youtube or whatever. And youtube does not generally make any editorial decision. CBS and/or the producers of the show are going to decide what they want to make available on youtube. As long as it doesn't break youtube's terms of service, they don't care what someone does or doesn't choose to put on their service. I suppose CBS/Late Show could choose to create an additional uncensored version for youtube, but why bother?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. Good info thanks ... but I've seen swear words bleeped out on late-night
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jul 2019

shows pretty regularly (course I'm on AZ time, so it's actually tape delayed) watching the live broadcast.

This particular edit/censor was definitely unusual. This makes me think it may've been just blatant profanity ... it went way beyond a 'bleep', they didn't even want you to SEE him saying what he was saying.

I just thought it was interesting.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
12. Colbert is almost never live.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jul 2019

They only do the show live for special events, like the election and the debates. Usually it's taped about 4 in the afternoon, and cleaned up and edited before even the east coast broadcast. The other late night shows are the same. Except for Bill Maher's show, and of course, Saturday Night Live.

BTW, they tape both the Thursday AND the Friday shows on Thursday. Which is why he always jokes about having a "Friday night crowd." And why you'll never see anything same-day topical in his Friday monologue.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. I've watched hundreds of episodes, I'm well aware of the Friday thing
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jul 2019

My point is just that it was a very heavy-handed edit, of the kind I don't recall seeing before on Colbert. I'm wondering what was said and why it was handled differently that the usual 'bleeping'.

That's all.

But thx again

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
14. I think handled differently just because it was live
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jul 2019

and so there was no opportunity to "finesse" it. Whatever the guy with his finger on the button did at the moment is what it had to be.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. Oh, so that was a 'live' episode? That might explain
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:56 PM
Jul 2019

why it was handled different that what you usually see.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
9. also, youtube, like HBO, is not governed by FCC rules.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jul 2019

There would never bleep out Jon Stewart's stuff... because they don't have editors. They never bleep out ANYTHING. Either the video is permitted, or it is not. If something was too offensive for them, they would not bleep it, blur it, or do anything else with it, they would just take it down, and leave it to the creator to provide a different version. The only way a "bleeped" version of Jon Stewart ends up there would be if Comedy Central or whoever had uploaded it to youtube that way. But just as there's no reason for Colbert to go out of their way to make an unbleeped version, there would have been no reason for Stewart's company to go out of their way to make a more highly censored version. These shows are what they are when they are first shown, based on the rules of where it is being shown. There ARE cases where producers make different versions for different outlets. But in these cases, there's no reason to go through the effort.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
5. I don't agree that HRC didn't talk to them.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:10 AM
Jul 2019

I think they didn't listen. She could have gone to Michigan or wherever and lied to them as trump did and then what. These people were fooled by him and the continued lies and propaganda against Clinton and believed even though he showed himself to be the con man he is .

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