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Related: About this forumBurt Lancaster's speech in "Judgment at Nuremburg." It speaks to us today...
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Thanks.
erronis
(15,468 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,537 posts)Thanks for the thread CTyankee.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I am a boomer, born in late '45, so when I was in early school, we had the flag in the classrooms, said the pledge of allegiance
first thing on a school morning, and I seem to remember that was so until about 4th grade, maybe ended by 4th grade..(?)
I remember the early 50's being very patriotic, big turnouts for 4th of July parades, even in small towns. We put our hand over out heart when the flag went by, I remember men in uniform saluting ( Navy/Army, mostly, early on)
Davy Crockett, Disney feel good things on tv.
When did that all stop, I wonder?
thucythucy
(8,132 posts)The naïve patriotism of the general public was manipulated and exploited. "Our country right or wrong" "Love it or leave it" "These colors don't run..." Meanwhile the architects of the war knew all along that the reality was far more complex, that our intervention was doomed to failure, that the succession of strong men we supported were corrupt and anti-democratic, that the domino theory was bunk, that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was fabricated, that there was and never would be "a light at the end of the tunnel."
Tens of thousands of young Americans died, hundreds of thousands were disabled, millions of Vietnamese were killed, all sacrificed on the alter of our patriotic hubris.
The revelations that came afterwards--the revisionist histories of our destructive interventions in Iran, Guatemala, El Salvador, Chile--all threw into doubt the notion of "American exceptionalism."
Not that we haven't done some good in the world, or that other nations are equally or more venal.
But it's a long way from liberating concentration camps in Germany to napalming children and destroying peasant villages in order "to save them."
George II
(67,782 posts)And you also reminded me of his role in the movie "Elmer Gantry" - if you're interested I just posted the opening scene. Reminiscent of some politicians today.