Trumps America: Riding a Bike while..... looking

[tomhagen]

Why not pull over the Paranoid homeowner? Obviously a "difficult" day for this asshole officer

[marble falls]

1. She got stopped because she seemed to be skying out homes and was reported by a citizen....

she got handcuffed because she didn't hand over her ID promptly. It was a learning experience. Next time a cop asks for ID do it without cussing and attitude. Police do have the right to ask for ID and we do have obligation to show it. I don't care for cops much, but that whole thing seemed pretty reasonable to me.

It had nothing at all to do with the Orange Shitgibbon, of whom I will enjoy bigly seeing the spectacle of him doing a perpwalk in handcuffs.

[tomhagen]

4. Only according to some paranoid nameless fucked up homeowner

[marble falls]

12. How in the world would you know a nameless homeowner is either paranoid or fucked up? Ouija board?..

The police know who this "nameless person" is.

The police are required to determine how valid a report is and this cop followed through. Imagine your justifiable umbrage if the cop hadn't followed through on a citizen's report and that cyclist was riding away with your grandmothers SS check leaving her in a pool of blood in her kitchen? That happens.

http://www.lawqa.com/qa/when-can-police-officer-ask-for-id

[Towlie]

7. Do you have obligation to show ID? We don't here in America. Where do you live?

https://www.google.com/search?q=obligation+to+show+id

[marble falls]

11. We both live in an America where we do have to show IDs when we are stopped by police....

name one jurisdiction where this is untrue and the SCOTUS has ruled so consistently any number of times over the years. What you seem to stand for is your presumed right to not proffer ID when asked, how do you feel about criminals' right to withhold ID????

http://www.lawqa.com/qa/when-can-police-officer-ask-for-id

[ET Awful]

8. Actually, no, they do not have the right to demand ID.

There is no law that states you must present ID to a police officer in Oklahoma. Some states have laws requiring that you show ID upon demand or request, Oklahoma is not one of them.

If you don't know the law, you're far more likely to fall victim to unlawful conduct by the police.

[marble falls]

14. Depends where you are and whether you are in a traffic stop or not, this woman was a traffic stop...

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http://www.fronterasdesk.org/content/9656/what-can-law-enforcement-ask-you-traffic-stop

This is a kinda Libertarian site so they tend to think like you do about cops, who I say again, I do not have very much sympathy for cops, though I am a Democrat with no particular love for Libertarians, either.

[ET Awful]

18. Legally, this was not a traffic stop.

A traffic stop is being stopped for something involving traffic, as in an illegal turn, a taillight out, failure to stop for a signal, etc. This is not a traffic stop for legal purposes.

[AtheistCrusader]

9. Upon demand, you must idenfity yourself. That does NOT mean you must show ID.

My name is Bob Smith. I live in bumshart nebrahoma, Etc.

That is sufficient.

They require probable cause to compel you further. We do not live in Nazi Germany, and do not need to carry Paperz! with us everywhere.

[Xipe Totec]

17. She handed her id over in reasonable time, but still got arrested after surrendering it

That's pretty fucked up.

[Loserman1962]

20. Wrong

"she got handcuffed because she didn't hand over her ID promptly. It was a learning experience. Next time a cop asks for ID do it without cussing and attitude. Police do have the right to ask for ID and we do have obligation to show it. I don't care for cops much, but that whole thing seemed pretty reasonable to me. "

No we do not have to show an ID

We have to if driving a motor vehicle. We do not have to provide an ID when walking or riding a Bicycle.

[turbinetree]

2. First words out of my mouth is where is the fucking warrant

this BS of probable cause, is just fucked up. If you don't hand over driver license and tell the cop to take it out, then they have broken the law, only in fucking Oklahoma, I got a phone call of a suspicious person riding a bike, fucked up neighbor hood


FUCK YOU asshole, Take Care...............FUCK YOU



Hey Oklahoma, has does it feel to live in right wing fascist state without any common sense, your state is number fucking number 9 in being the most dangerous to live in, oh boy your in the top 10. And your police don't help matters

https://www.roadsnacks.net/most-dangerous-states-in-america/

[LakeVermilion]

3. His fascist side shows through...

She handed (not threw) her license and was off the bike before he told her to get off the bike.

"We don't have to handcuff 99% of the people we stop." On the other hand, I think he enjoyed slapping the cuffs on.

[salin]

10. He later said "You throw your ID at me like a weapon."

Er weaponized ids? The plastic thrown (it wasn't) at a velocity is a 'threat' to officers? Ridiculous.

[lutherj]

5. What law did she break? What law is she suspected of breaking? This is just a patriarchal asshole

putting an uppity woman in her place. It has nothing to do with policing.

[Motley13]

6. horrific

throwing her stuff at him???? (which he went through)
threatening him with her ID????? (God help us)
people in OKC don't ride bikes??? (no wonder they are obese)

Good thing she isn't black or a Latina

We didn't hear if there really was a complaint

here is an update

[Ducksworthy]

13. This is why I never carry my papers

I read somewhere years ago that if you don't carry your ID when riding, you're less likely to be ticketed. I think now I would give them only my name rank and serial number as one is required to do under the Geneva Convention when capture by the enemy.

[marble falls]

15. So if I want to mug you you won't call the cops and if I don't carry an ID we're both even steven.

Good to know. You operate on what you "read somewhere years ago"?

Here's something you can read today from a specific source:

http://www.lawqa.com/qa/when-can-police-officer-ask-for-id

[OxQQme]

16. Handcuffed update

[erronis]

19. I'm surprised he didn't turn off his camera - it might have worked out better for him

Than the backlash he should get from this brutalizing, unwarranted (both senses) stop.

Unless the PD around the country start taking some of these gross and flagrant dereliction of duty seriously they're being given the message that in this country, the gestapo is condoned.

Of course, if she had been riding a golf cart down the street (illegal in most places) and had a maga hat on, then she'd be waved on by.

[nwduke]

21. This is f**ked up!

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and you people blogging support for this travesty maybe ought to move to Russia where you will feel more at home! This is just not right!! There could have been many other ways this dopey cop could of handled this. Make America Goons Again? Or what!

[tomhagen]

22. Is this how we want to treat our Innocent Citizens? Our Innocent Bicyclists? ID card as a weapon??

[Kali]

23. Good thing she wasn't a black man.

Officer should be disciplined. WAY out of line but at least he didn't beat the crap out of her or shoot her. Fuck.