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(115,610 posts)It makes sense to wait until Mueller's investigation totally has the goods on him. That's how they got Nixon - they issued articles of impeachment based on the crimes uncovered by the special counsel investigation -
so they didn't even have to impeach him.
George II
(67,782 posts)Snoopy 7
(526 posts)For proof lets look at what the new dnc/dcc rules for 2018, and future, if you need their financial help.
1- you cant criticize your democratic opposition, blue dog democrats, and if you do they will pull your financial backing. But, the blue dog democrats can criticize their democratic opponents all they want since they already have money and dont need dnc/dcc money
2- dnc/dcc also stipulates that 75% of what they give you has to be spent on TV, even though social media is much cheaper and a lot more effective, therefore the corporate media gets the money instead of the more progressive social media.
The dnc/dcc has decided, like the republicans, they want mana over party so they are going to play ball with the fatcats that will make them rich. People use to say they got into politics to help the people. Now they spend millions to get into an office that pays thousands. Because they know once the fatcats get you in you will get paid to do their bidding.
Dont get me wrong there are great dems in office its just that they are few and dont have power in the democratic party. Those who hold the reign right now are the corporate blue dogs.
George II
(67,782 posts)KPN
(15,637 posts)wiggle room to withhold funding based on "shared values", focusing on "holding Republicans accountable", and not engaging "in tactics that do harm to our chances of winning a General
Election".
Given the stuff that has been perceived to occur in the past, I can see how this agreement template might cause some concerns regarding things like discouraging debate within the party re: values, giving candidates who have and take super PAC backing an edge over grassroot campaigns via the "no "tactics that do harm" clause, etc.; super-PACS can engage in those tactics directly while candidates can't.
Again, nothing definitive, but cause for concern among progressives who eschew corporate and Wall Street campaign contributions. Question is: are the concerns legitimate? I'm inclined to say let's not over-react to this stuff, but the party needs to be aware of the potential concern.
[link:https://mic.com/articles/186648/is-the-democratic-congressional-campaign-committee-stifling-dissent-within-the-party#.Rm29QX3jO|
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)from candidates who won't "agree not to engage in tactics that do harm to our chances of winning a General
Election."
KPN
(15,637 posts)WHAT causes harm to our chances of winning the GE, and WHO decides that.
There's a lot of gray area.
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)where the DCCC "stipulates that 75% of what they give you has to be spent on TV"
Here's what the document actually says:
The Candidate agrees to have a campaign budget completed six months prior to their primary
and to focus on preserving at least 75% of funds raised for paid communications.
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NNadir
(33,475 posts)...they'll get it done.
Why doesn't this asshole Cenk stick to being a member of the Matt Lauer misogyny club?
What an ass.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Of course Trump May start wwiii. Or jail the Pope or something.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,965 posts)He did it during the election too.
I'm not watching this because another post title mentioned this is by Cenk.
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)I wonder who that could be?
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jimlup
(7,968 posts)but the case may at some point soon become overwhelming
RussBLib
(9,003 posts)How many times have I heard from the Dems: "We want to look forward and not backward."
And then the GOP gets back into office and misbehaves even worse than before.
Oops, I said something not totally flattering to the Dems. Does this mean that my post will be removed and I could be banned from the site?
rwsanders
(2,594 posts)People forget that there was a democratic majority for the first 2 years of Obamas presidency and they sat on their hands because there wasn't a republican majority in the house or senate to blame for getting nothing done.
So I'll go with you I guess. Especially if a certain someone or 2 finds our posts.
mcar
(42,278 posts)There was a thread yesterday saying Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein were not in favor of impeachment at this time. They primarily got praise in the thread for being smart and strategic.
A few days earlier,and now here, are threads roundly criticizing Dems for the same stance.
Can you explain? Seems like quite a double standard.