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As Bernie Sanders experiences renewed relevancy in the Trump era --and releases a new book, The Bernie Sanders Guide to Political Revolution: A Guide for the Next Generation, VICE News reports on what it means to feel the Bern in 2017.
Warpy
(111,417 posts)Face it, he's not some embarrassing uncle, an old crank howling in the wilderness.
He's respected because so many people agree with him.
Lunabell
(6,133 posts)And the party needs to listen, or face problems again in '18.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)If we don't unite we are looking at 8 years of Trump and Ryan, do you really think that is worth "blowing up the system"?
Warpy
(111,417 posts)Democrats have never been a lockstep party and never will be.
We unite on election day and that's it.
elleng
(131,292 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Letting him decide to run as a Democrat was the wrong decision for the party. If you want to start a 3rd party go for it and then we will have Republican's right wing to the hilt for the rest of our lives.
He has an agenda that does not include me I'm afraid. Anyone who sided with Mrs. Clinton in the general do not fit your litmus test. I've been a Democrat for almost 40 years. I have walked until my feet hurt to knock on doors. I didn't agree with every one and NEVER bad mouthed a Democrat because the alternative was a group of facists.
Say of me what you will, this is the DEMOCRATIC Underground not Independent Underground.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)0rganism
(23,984 posts)nothing Sen. Sanders has done so far that you might call "fucking with the Democratic Party" would compare to the degree of fucking a Sanders-backed 3rd party would cause.
Sen. Sanders currently polls as the most popular politician in America. if Bernie goes and starts "his own party", what do you think is going to happen to the Democratic party? how many of its youth and its most fervent organizers and canvassers would a Bernie party strip away? Democrats are already in enough electoral trouble as-is, how much do you truly want to alienate Sanders supporters at this point?
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)politician in America. Read the article.
0rganism
(23,984 posts)i read "the" article regarding the recent Pew poll. over 2300 voters sample size -- quite accurate as far as polls go. he's not the most popular among Democrats or Republicans, but overall, across the electorate as a whole, he is the most popular. Democrats alienate Sen. Sanders and his supporters (die hard or otherwise) at our own risk.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Scoopster
(423 posts)He already had plenty of say in changing national party rules & basically writing the entire party platform. And then he quit & started complaining incessantly about the changes he just made.
Look, I've got no problem with Bernie's ideas or political orientation, which were already ideas that have been floating around with Dems and the left side of the political spectrum in general for decades. What I do have a problem with is hypocrites. THAT is what turns me off about Bernie.