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Michael Moore is warning us! (Original Post) yallerdawg Jul 2016 OP
I think Michael Moore is trying hard to remain relevant. upaloopa Jul 2016 #1
his comments are trump are bizzare MariaThinks Jul 2016 #2
Not so bizarre. yallerdawg Jul 2016 #5
I agree... Phentex Jul 2016 #4
Oh Yes His Prediction Is As Spot On Me. Jul 2016 #3
I'm Not a Huge MM Fan ... He's Fine, I Guess the48er Jul 2016 #6
Experience reminds us not to get complacent. yallerdawg Jul 2016 #8
You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Complacency indeed!! japple Jul 2016 #21
Exactly. I hope Moore scares the shit LuvNewcastle Aug 2016 #25
I assume that Moore is using a heavy dose of reverse psychology. Satire of Trump SHOULD help... maddiemom Jul 2016 #7
Michael Moore has seen us lose a few elections. yallerdawg Jul 2016 #10
Michael Moore has helped us lose a few elections. alain2112 Jul 2016 #19
Like many of the rest of us... yallerdawg Jul 2016 #20
He convinced Gore not to contest the election results in Florida? That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #23
1. Gore won the popular vote. 2. Any sabotaging was done by Gore himself No Vested Interest Jul 2016 #24
Anyone the RW sleazeball scumnuts hate as much as they do Michael Moore, I LIKE! 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #9
He said the same thing MFM008 Jul 2016 #11
He exposed a whack-job president to the nation... yallerdawg Jul 2016 #12
I agree with Mr. Moore oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #13
I don't have a problem with this at all.... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #14
We have fallen into the trap that thinks that being sensible and intelligent will win zebonaut Jul 2016 #15
that and bubbles / group think Locrian Jul 2016 #16
I live in Alabama. yallerdawg Jul 2016 #18
Ditto, here, yallerdawg, except Georgia. I have a very small circle of people japple Jul 2016 #22
K & R for an important point and post! Complacency is a subtle poison. n/t xocet Jul 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #26
You get on TV because you have something interesting to say... yallerdawg Aug 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #28
Michael Moore is a crybaby SoFlaJet Aug 2016 #29

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
4. I agree...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:37 AM
Jul 2016

he should be telling people what losers they will be to vote for the loser. People hate losing.

 

the48er

(211 posts)
6. I'm Not a Huge MM Fan ... He's Fine, I Guess
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jul 2016

But I DO appreciate his efforts to grab us all by the lapels and try to convince us not to take ANYTHING for granted. Don't you think his immediate concern is less with Trump actually winning than it is with "our side" letting our guard down even for one minute? I've got no problem at all with THAT.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. Experience reminds us not to get complacent.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jul 2016

The "Middle East" took down an incumbent Democrat (Carter) and gave us a B-actor for president.

"Complacency" took down the most qualified candidate I had ever seen (Gore) and gave us a puppet for president.

My experience is no Republican candidate has been so bad he couldn't be president (Nixon).

japple

(9,773 posts)
21. You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Complacency indeed!!
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 06:12 PM
Jul 2016

Thanks for posting the Bill Maher clip.

LuvNewcastle

(16,820 posts)
25. Exactly. I hope Moore scares the shit
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:54 AM
Aug 2016

out of everyone. A lot is at stake here, and people need to be motivated to get off their asses and vote this fall.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
7. I assume that Moore is using a heavy dose of reverse psychology. Satire of Trump SHOULD help...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jul 2016

But do those who support Trump even get satire? Trump supporters, after all, were confusing the actor, Bradley Cooper, with his screen persona as Chris Kyle, and were outraged to find Cooper was a Democrat.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. Michael Moore has seen us lose a few elections.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jul 2016
“It’s going to be the Brexit strategy,” Moore said. “The middle of England is Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania, and Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes the total electoral votes of those four states in the Rust Belt — 64.”

Michael Moore believes that all Trump has to do is win those four states and that his message to the Ford workers during the primary season that he would tariff Ford cars until they brought the plant back to Michigan resonated with voters.

He said, “I’m telling you right now they moved this factory to Mexico. I’m putting a tariff on the cars, and that’s it.’ And it was music to people’s ears. And more people in the Michigan primary voted Republican than Democrat in the primary this year. That should be disturbing to everybody.”

Read more at: http://www.inquisitr.com/3332181/michael-moore-donald-trump-is-going-to-win/#zlkRKSS1ffEyH7Ie.99
 

alain2112

(25 posts)
19. Michael Moore has helped us lose a few elections.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jul 2016

FTFY

Moore was pretty confident that sabotaging the Gore campaign and boosting Bush into the White House was a good idea.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
20. Like many of the rest of us...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

the implacable idealism of our youth gives way to the stalwart realism of experience.

Moore is giving us a warning - he warned us that if we didn't turn out for Gore he would lose.

Moore was "all in" for Sanders. He just doesn't want to see history repeat.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
23. He convinced Gore not to contest the election results in Florida?
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jul 2016

I remember his show TV Nation, in particular an episode Season 2 episode 7 when he had an ex-KGB agent search for what happened to the Democratic Party. They filmed James Carville telling a room of Democratic members that in order to get elected they had to "talk like republicans". That might have worked in the South (which apparently is not conservative) but to the rest of the country it seemed like the Democratic Party had no ideas and the best they could do is a pale imitation of the republicans. That is the sort of campaign thinking that helped sabotage Gore's campaign more than anything Michael Moore said.

The Democratic leadership largely still believes this. Hopefully Clinton will stop Democratic "strategist" like Carville from surrending the messaging of issues to republicans.

No Vested Interest

(5,157 posts)
24. 1. Gore won the popular vote. 2. Any sabotaging was done by Gore himself
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jul 2016

by distancing himself from Bill Clinton, whom the American people backed during and after the impeachment kertuffle.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
12. He exposed a whack-job president to the nation...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jul 2016

with an Academy Award winning documentary, and watched America pick that sleaze ball again.

"Once bitten, twice shy."

oswaldactedalone

(3,489 posts)
13. I agree with Mr. Moore
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jul 2016

Keep talking Michael. There are some in the choir here who are tuning out your preaching.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
14. I don't have a problem with this at all....
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jul 2016

It's fair warning, and he's right in the sense that Trump has been a media manipulator for years. One problem that Trump has that works for us is that now he doesn't have the same audience, or maybe he has the same audience and is 'trying' to expand that. I don't think he can expand it much past the 30-35% that is the Repub floor, so I'm fairly confident.

But MM's warning is spot on. If we get complacent, the media will continue to fall on it's face and Trump will have an undeserved shot at winning.

 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
15. We have fallen into the trap that thinks that being sensible and intelligent will win
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jul 2016

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Listen very seriously to what Michael Moore says and DO NOT get Complacent. Imagine a terror attack a week before the election. That could sway things. It's that close.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
16. that and bubbles / group think
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jul 2016

I went to Cruz rally, Trump rally, Bernie rally, (HRC didn't have one in my area).
It is absolutely a different world outside the DU bubble. Moore is spot on and it is going to take people doing more that laughing at him and thinking that it's "obvious" who the better candidate is.

The powers that be are not seeing how massively PISSED a lot of people are. Willing to crash it all PISSED.

There are a lot of them out there with low information and blind spots in how they see this idiot as a "populist": we have to show how false and how much of a liar he is - how much he's using people.






yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
18. I live in Alabama.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jul 2016

DU is virtually (as in "virtual reality" ) the only place I hear anything nice about Hillary or Democrats.

I won't put a Hillary bumper sticker on my car, I won't put a Hillary sign in my yard out of a real, palpable fear for my property and family!

I know exactly how it feels to be a furtive, subversive member of the Democratic underground.

Trump could win?

Down here, it's a Trump landslide!

japple

(9,773 posts)
22. Ditto, here, yallerdawg, except Georgia. I have a very small circle of people
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jul 2016

that I can call like-minded souls. The rest are posting disgusting things about everyone on the left and how christians should vote for trump: http://townhall.com/columnists/waynegrudem/2016/07/28/why-voting-for-donald-trump-is-a-morally-good-choice-n2199564

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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
27. You get on TV because you have something interesting to say...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:34 AM
Aug 2016

and some people want to hear it.

Trump is a perfect example. Some of us hate and despise him, but he has a huge audience and draws viewers.

When Michael Moore or Dr. West make a valid point, I acknowledge their ideas.

Fortunately, Trump never makes sensible, rational, valid points, so I don't have anything to acknowledge from his rambling, incoherent blathering. Which also identifies him as a typical Republican.

Response to yallerdawg (Reply #27)

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
29. Michael Moore is a crybaby
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

who probably isn't even a democrat. He was one of the biggest Ralph Naderites, which helped usher in 8 years of total destruction and almost the end of America as we know it. He is sitting there bereft of any data except what comes out of his fat fleshy face saying he KNOWS that Trump is going to win. The numbers say differently Mike. What are you doing about your hometown's water situation? With all your money you could have helped fix it or at least bought your neighbors a few weeks worth of water to the needy.

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