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EarlG

(21,985 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:50 AM May 2016

Pic Of The Moment: Give 'Em Hell, Harry



Harry Reid Says GOP Is to Blame for Donald Trump as Republicans Distance Themselves From Front-Runner


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Pic Of The Moment: Give 'Em Hell, Harry (Original Post) EarlG May 2016 OP
First rec! femmocrat May 2016 #1
Cue a 'Not Hillary' Party member to concoct a version of this about Hillary. nt onehandle May 2016 #2
You just did! d_legendary1 May 2016 #3
+1 AllyCat May 2016 #19
Bull shit . It's about the Democratic party lsewpershad May 2016 #38
My only disagreement with this Sherman A1 May 2016 #4
Excellent point and very accurate. The ERA was defeated long ago--and not by Dems. merrily May 2016 #5
And Mr. Sanders is a one man Loki May 2016 #14
Sanders has done much better at passing his substantive bills and amendments than Hillary did hers. merrily May 2016 #25
Prove it. Loki May 2016 #37
It's not a numbers game. What a bill says or does matters. merrily May 2016 #53
He's had over 30 years to get shit done and this is all he has. Loki May 2016 #54
Well the anti-Obama bit is 8 years AllyCat May 2016 #20
? That's the same thing my prior post said about the anti-Obama bit. merrily May 2016 #27
Apparently responded to wrong post and didn't see yours. AllyCat May 2016 #39
I agree, but they ramped it up when a black man was elected president. Lochloosa May 2016 #6
Amazing and absolutely disgusting to watch. blm May 2016 #18
"the GOP has been working on this for far longer than 8 years. " LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #34
You're right, but their treatment of Obama has accelerated it. livingonearth May 2016 #41
Keep broadcasting this message: unfit GOP ffr May 2016 #7
Hear hear! We need more grassroots level liberals in office everywhere. n/t Beartracks May 2016 #49
This would be better if it weren't coming rateyes May 2016 #8
Really? Loki May 2016 #12
I will miss that man--no one does it better. MADem May 2016 #9
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #10
The GOP and its followers Loki May 2016 #11
and that is putting it mildly, sen. reid. niyad May 2016 #13
And the ReThugs secretly AGREE with Trump. That is the point that I will continue to make! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2016 #15
You are right. They believe and embrace what he says AllyCat May 2016 #21
Agreed. They're just annoyed that he's so public about it. TwilightZone May 2016 #23
Absolutely. Ineeda May 2016 #32
Yes but Republicanesque crap is spilling over into the Democratic Party. gordianot May 2016 #16
They shouldn't be at all surprised. Trump epitomizes everything they've been working toward... TwilightZone May 2016 #17
Harry is right! hamsterjill May 2016 #22
I see Repugs running in droves to Trump. lark May 2016 #24
I agree. at the end of the day, the repukes will fall in lock step and vote for their new leader. Javaman May 2016 #28
Exactly! lark May 2016 #29
they may gripe and bemoan him, but they will fight each other to say they were first to support him. Javaman May 2016 #30
Lock step indeed. 3catwoman3 May 2016 #48
He's wrong. They've been building to trump since the "Southern Strategy" of the 1960's n/t That Guy 888 May 2016 #26
really good one, thanks oldandhappy May 2016 #31
Hey, conservative republicans... czarjak May 2016 #33
The Grand Old Potty done gas-huffed its own flatulence. Eleanors38 May 2016 #35
Anti-US government.....not just anti-Obama Hulk May 2016 #36
This does not go far enough. Motown_Johnny May 2016 #40
Sad to see him go hrsummers May 2016 #42
Stephen King: bvar22 May 2016 #43
You GO, Harry Reid!!!!! Stellar May 2016 #44
So what's your problem with Alan Grayson, Harry? Nyan May 2016 #45
Plus the justice department lost 70% of it civil rights attorneys under G. Bush. rladdi May 2016 #46
Spot on, Senator Reid!!! ailsagirl May 2016 #47
so says a Conservadem PatrynXX May 2016 #50
If "give em hell Harry" heaven05 May 2016 #51
Wisdom houston16revival May 2016 #52

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)
38. Bull shit . It's about the Democratic party
Wed May 11, 2016, 04:10 PM
May 2016

If you continue to ignore the members, the grass roots, you are making the same mistake.
It's beginning to happen...... with Bernie.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Excellent point and very accurate. The ERA was defeated long ago--and not by Dems.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

To name only one example. The only thing that has been about 8 years long is the anti-Obama part--and he's not running for anything. I guess Harry included that to help the groundwork for explaining why more did not get done in two terms under a Democratic President.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
25. Sanders has done much better at passing his substantive bills and amendments than Hillary did hers.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

So, there's that.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
53. It's not a numbers game. What a bill says or does matters.
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

My post said substantive bills or amendments that she wrote, not re-naming a post office, or remembering the American revolution or remembering Harriet Tubman's birthday.

Lochloosa

(16,076 posts)
6. I agree, but they ramped it up when a black man was elected president.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

That was just a step they could not handle.

It was kind of amazing to watch.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
34. "the GOP has been working on this for far longer than 8 years. "
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:49 PM
May 2016

And so have the Democrat apparatchik, of which Harry is a big player.

Frank Thomas's new book explains it.

http://billmoyers.com/story/author-thomas-frank-talks-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-and-his-new-book-listen-liberal/

While the battle rages for the soul of the Republican Party, Frank sees Democrats in the throes of their own identity crisis. The one-time party of the working class has been co-opted by a hyper-educated elite, he argues in his just-published Listen Liberal. The book can be read as an argument that the anger propelling Donald Trump’s campaign is the product of short-sighted policy decisions made by Democratic technocrats.

They feel they don't need the filthy blue collar working class anymore. And along with them the "fucking retards" liberals in their own party that support those workers rights.

livingonearth

(728 posts)
41. You're right, but their treatment of Obama has accelerated it.
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

I have never seen a president get such awful treatment. They even blame him for things that happened before he was president.

ffr

(22,676 posts)
7. Keep broadcasting this message: unfit GOP
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

Give our leaders the support they need to be more forceful with liberal ideas.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. I will miss that man--no one does it better.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:18 AM
May 2016

He understands how to play the Senate rules to his advantage, even as a minority leader. He also knows how to stick it between their ribs and deliver a fatal blow with no muss, no fuss.

What a wealth of knowledge he has been, and he's been a superb leader as well.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
15. And the ReThugs secretly AGREE with Trump. That is the point that I will continue to make!
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:35 AM
May 2016

I don't care what any of them say. I don't care how vociferously they scream about how Trump isn't electable and that they disagree with him. BULLSHIT!

ReThugs will rally around this man---ALL OF THEM!! Because nothing is more important to them than party politics. And Trump is a reflection of what they truly believe: They are misogynists, xenophobic, racist bigots! That's what they are and Trump is the very embodiment of the Republican Party and everything it stands for.

AllyCat

(16,248 posts)
21. You are right. They believe and embrace what he says
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:07 PM
May 2016

They just weren't ready for it to be out in the open yet.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
32. Absolutely.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

They've been trying to hide this stuff forever, but now 'Tiny Hands' is exposing their deeply-held ideologies. I agree that they will all rally around, caring more about their f'ing Party than the country, its citizens, and even the planet. The infighting on the Democratic side seems not to take that into consideration in their 'my person or no one' strategy. Heaven help us if the Dems don't really come together.

gordianot

(15,249 posts)
16. Yes but Republicanesque crap is spilling over into the Democratic Party.
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

Republicans deserve Trump.

Wooing Bush financial supporters is in the words of the DU alert complaint "over the top". I saw a brief interview Monday by Chris Matthews with Julian Castro answering the usual Vice Presidential questions and that he would be speaking to Bush financial supporters. Of course Democrats are immune to quid pro quo. Matthews should change the name of his show to Wiffle Ball.

TwilightZone

(25,505 posts)
17. They shouldn't be at all surprised. Trump epitomizes everything they've been working toward...
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

for the past 50 years.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
22. Harry is right!
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

Glad someone has spoken up and explained it for the Republican leadership. It is a true statement. Way to go, Harry!!!

lark

(23,182 posts)
24. I see Repugs running in droves to Trump.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

Very few Repugs are actually saying they won't support him, Bill Krystal is the only one I can think of.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
28. I agree. at the end of the day, the repukes will fall in lock step and vote for their new leader.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

just like robots.

lark

(23,182 posts)
29. Exactly!
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016

This whole Trump drama with the party is a media construction. The party has lined up with him and it's game on.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
30. they may gripe and bemoan him, but they will fight each other to say they were first to support him.
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

LOL

I can't wait for the gop convention, it will be some of the best dark comedy ever!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
36. Anti-US government.....not just anti-Obama
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

It's time to call these seditious bastards out for what they are....anti-America.

Ever since the scourge of Alzheimer Ronnie, the gop has been telling it's minions to fear and detest the very government that serves you. Don't bother to root out corruption, which the gop has nearly a monopoly on at times, but point the entire government as corrupt and against YOU.

This is a major part of our division today. No one has taken that clown and his bastion of "democratic-haters" to task for that myth for one second. We have allowed hate radio and fox-bullshit to label the whole government as evil and corrupt...the source of our problems...that which we all need to fear and loathe. And they've been pounding that shit-skinned drum a steady beat ever since that ridiculous statement the b-grade actor blurted out to the cheers and salutes of his reagan-bots. Now it is the accepted fact.

We need to gather a strategy that brings reality back into focus. We have allowed this collection of cancerous lies to exist as "fact", and we will be paying the price for a generation to come.

NO, government is NOT THE PROBLEM. Government is "WE THE PEOPLE", dumb ass! If it is corrupt or not functioning properly, then do something about it. Complain and draw attention to it. But don't label the whole government as the evil enemy. Cops, teachers, city workers, state employees, federal employees are YOU AND ME! We are NOT FOOK'N EVIL! Hate radio and fox-bullshit are "evil", if anyone can be broadly labeled as such. The IRS has a job to do. INS has a job to full fill. TSA has a job to do. If you don't approve of the way it is being done, then write your Congressman and draw attention to it. Because the IRS calls you in for an audit doesn't make them 'the enemy". Because INS is trying to enforce the laws doesn't make them evil Gestapo. Because the TSA has lines going out the door doesn't make them the bad guys. They are ALL fulfilling a job that we put them there to do.

Sweet Jesus...it reminds me of a dozen sailors on a sinking dingy, and they are busy splashing water out of the boat as they are going down in the high seas. We need to PLUG THE HOLES and spread the truth, and then we can dispel the lies and bull shit that have been "gop gospel" since 1980.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
40. This does not go far enough.
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:24 PM
May 2016

It has been since Reagan that the (R)s have been on this track.

It got worse with Rove's "Deeper not Wider" approach to getting Shrub elected. Their party became dependent on the wing nuts that were hard to get out to vote. Now they need to cater to them to keep their voting numbers up and the political middle has been absorbed by the (D)s (moving our party to the right as a whole).


The thing that seems to be missing in all these discussions is that the evolution shows no signs of slowing. Trump is the current product of the (R)s needing the extreme right to stay in power, but someone/something even crazier is bound to surpass even him.

As long as they keep going in this direction, it seems inevitable. That or a complete collapse and rebuilding of their political ideology and everyone now in power wants to delay that until after their retirement.



hrsummers

(5 posts)
42. Sad to see him go
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

As a nevadan in their 20s, I've basically always known Reid in the senate... It will be sad to see him go.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
43. Stephen King:
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016
[font size=3 color=firebrick]
Conservatives who for 8 years sowed the dragon’s teeth of partisan politics are horrified to discover they have grown an actual dragon.[/font]


— Stephen King (@StephenKing) March 3, 2016

rladdi

(581 posts)
46. Plus the justice department lost 70% of it civil rights attorneys under G. Bush.
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:09 PM
May 2016

G. Bush trashed civil rights for 8 years as our worst President ever. President Obama has had to rebuild the Civil Rights section of the Justice Dept. So if Trump wins the election, civil rights will again be trashed thanks to the Republicans.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
50. so says a Conservadem
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:07 AM
May 2016

about a Moderate. Yeah didn't expect the Republicans to put a Moderate in when they were trying to go for extreme Right Wing Tea Party but oh well. they get what they get. But never been a fan of Harry, he has his moments but they are few and far between , Nancy has more moments.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
51. If "give em hell Harry"
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:36 AM
May 2016

Last edited Fri May 13, 2016, 01:39 PM - Edit history (1)

along with the rest of the Party leadership had been giving the repugs hell for the last seven+ years, Trump would be a laughing stock. Our Party leadership has failed the american people by allowing a devious racist/fascist like trump to become the popular candidarte of the RW, his type of persons' ascension has been formulated and nurtured since Ronald Reagan, their other 'hero'.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
52. Wisdom
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:59 AM
May 2016

that paints with a broad brush and therefore captures the

overall trend.

Harry has always been understated and moderate, but his
experience is clear here for all to see

Thanks, Harry!

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