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Bernie Sanders on Big Media (Original Post) DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #1
Yep. Bernie became a Democrat about 5 months ago. leftofcool May 2016 #2
You should be embarrassed by your comment. 20score May 2016 #3
I am never embarrassed by the truth leftofcool May 2016 #5
Okay, so independents have no place in the Party? Feeling the Bern May 2016 #6
If Bernie's values are disparaging to the Democratic Party then I'm mistaken on what dems are Victor_c3 May 2016 #13
I agree, and I'm worried. To say the least. DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 #19
If what the above poster said isn't what a democrat believes then I'm not one either Victor_c3 May 2016 #4
I'm not either. I'm a liberal before a Democrat. Feeling the Bern May 2016 #7
Luckily, I don't have to register in my state... freebrew May 2016 #9
The American people are the ones who are losing. raindaddy May 2016 #15
To hammer home the point they make in this video, Bill Moyers was a former longtime Dustlawyer May 2016 #8
Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #11
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #10
Thank you! DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 #21
In reference to the first post - which was hidden by the jurry Victor_c3 May 2016 #12
Jury results of the 1st reply post... NeoGreen May 2016 #14
Corporate media has just given us Donald Trump zebonaut May 2016 #16
If Bernie Sanders had been given any where near the coverage: DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 #17
When did this program air? If it's dated, what is the current status Lodestar May 2016 #18
I'm sorry. I hope this helps. DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 #20
Thanks! n/t Lodestar May 2016 #22

Response to DianaForRussFeingold (Original post)

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
5. I am never embarrassed by the truth
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:17 AM
May 2016

Bernie was an Independent until about 5 months ago and his is not going to be the Democratic nominee no matter how much you wish for it. No super delegates are going to switch their votes. Bernie is not liked by his peers, he is not well liked in Congress and after spending the last few months disparaging the Democratic Party, he is now not liked by the Party itself.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
6. Okay, so independents have no place in the Party?
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:26 AM
May 2016

Good luck winning an election with that idea. And good luck trying to convince Bernie supporters to vote for HRC.

As for not being liked in Congress, I sincerely doubt that, based on things said about him but members of both parties.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
13. If Bernie's values are disparaging to the Democratic Party then I'm mistaken on what dems are
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

My fears of the impact on the disintegration of the Republican Party are coming to fruition. I was worried that the dems would become the party of war and wall street and that is exactly what is happening.

So are we going to see a new liberal party rise?

The democrat party is disgusting me more and more and proving that it is less the party of the middle class.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
19. I agree, and I'm worried. To say the least.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:03 AM
May 2016
It's scary. Posting this and reading the comments has made me cry! I've waited over forty years for someone like Bernie.. Meanwhile, he's been fighting for us all along, many of us, myself included, never even knew... Well, I'm not ready to give up. I don't think any of us are.

Go Bernie!


Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
4. If what the above poster said isn't what a democrat believes then I'm not one either
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:06 AM
May 2016

I was terribly mistaken in thinking that the Democratic Party was supposedly a "liberal" party.

I guess there is a reason that more people are independent than claim to be a republican or a democrat.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
7. I'm not either. I'm a liberal before a Democrat.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:28 AM
May 2016

And after I have seen how the Party treats its liberal members, I probably will never be a Democrat again after this election season.

I will re-register independent and vote my conscience after 20 years of being a Democrat.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
9. Luckily, I don't have to register in my state...
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:47 AM
May 2016

we declare party at the time of the primaries.
This way, independents have some say as to whom they want as their choice.
I find it discouraging that HRC supporters think independents shouldn't be able to vote.
Yet, come November, neither the Dems nor the Rs can win without them.

Closed primaries rub against all democratic principles.

"I'm not a member of an organized political party, I'm a Democrat" - Will Rogers

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
15. The American people are the ones who are losing.
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:25 AM
May 2016

Just Hillary's incremental, fossil fuel sanctioned response to climate change should be enough to tell you that. Then there's her love of fracking, corporate buy off of our elections, regime change and nation building...

And Sander's recent association with what's become of the Democratic party is a badge of honor..

Dustlawyer

(10,499 posts)
8. To hammer home the point they make in this video, Bill Moyers was a former longtime
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:32 AM
May 2016

network talent who has been relegated to the Internet because he was not allowed to do stories on things like this. This is only being discussed on the Internet news, not MSM. That is the reality of what they have done.

The MSM spews misinformation and propaganda and fails to report at all on many important issue because it is an arm of the corporations and Plutocracy!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
10. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

This is somewhat dated but still applicable to the problems of the nation.

Every DUer should watch this entire piece and consider how it applies to the primary election and the national circumstances we find ourselves in.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
12. In reference to the first post - which was hidden by the jurry
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:00 AM
May 2016

Pointing out that Hillary is a warmonger I guess is hurtful on a forum that, at least until recently, was filled with liberals. Unless fighting bullshit wars is now a liberal value.

I'm kind of confused here. What makes a liberal?? I thought liberals were supposedly peaceniks??

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
14. Jury results of the 1st reply post...
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

...for informational purposes:


On Thu May 5, 2016, 08:05 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Bernie Sanders
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=366353

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a flat out LIE !

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu May 5, 2016, 08:14 AM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hillary is a Democrat even if you and I prefer Bernie.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Lying isn't against TOS.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Tired of this, AND of posters using the video forum to subvert the GDP posting rule.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Scram.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This post in-of-itself is not hide worthy (and yes I've already read another recent hidden post by this DU member).
So, that being said, a plea to Madmiddle, please take a moment to chill out and compose a rational comparison of what is a "War Hawk" verses what is a Progressive or Moderate "Dove" (?) and show how various candidates, including SHRC, compare to your criteria.
To the alerter, please make a counter argument, don't needlessly alert.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
17. If Bernie Sanders had been given any where near the coverage:
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:44 PM
May 2016
True! I remember when the news was there to inform.. Now. Not so much.

I think we need more journalist like Amy Goodman! She's great!

"Amy Goodman of Democracy Now: How the Media Is Ruining This Election"
Thanks to Triana:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017364776

"When you mix fiction and news, you diminish the distinction between truth and fiction, and you wear down the audience's own discriminating power to judge."
–Bill Moyers




Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
18. When did this program air? If it's dated, what is the current status
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:16 PM
May 2016

of the FCC's attempts to get this passed?

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
20. I'm sorry. I hope this helps.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:39 AM
May 2016
Looks like it didn't get passed - due to opposition!

From wiki.
"The FCC in 2007 voted to modestly relax its existing ban on newspaper/broadcast cross-ownership.[25] The FCC voted December 18, 2007 to eliminate some media ownership rules, including a statute that forbids a single company to own both a newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city. FCC Chairman Kevin Martin circulated the plan in October 2007"

"During mid-2014 and up to early 2015, the FCC, along with US Congress and the United States' Department of Justice, repeatedly voiced its opposition to a merger that was officially proposed by Comcast in January 2014 and would have led to a fusion of Time Warner and Comcast in order to form an enormously high-profile conglomerate with widespread influence across the US market. Comcast finally cancelled the merger proposition in May 2015."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_cross-ownership_in_the_United_States
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