New Progressive Era-Report: Seas will rise 16 feet NO MATTER WHAT WE DO

[daleanime]

Video is a little rough, black screen for a bit, but he definitely lays it all out.

[randys1]

1. Most important story of the day, today, any day but you wont get 5 responses

[daleanime]

2. Sad....

but probably true.

[yeoman6987]

3. Not much to say really

If it is going to happen anyway and we can't stop it then not much to debate.

[jimlup]

6. The discussion is:

How do we get the ultra-right deniers in our country to accept the obvious so that we can act on it. He's right. 16 feet is inevitable BUT there will be even more if we don't act.

[yeoman6987]

7. What can we do? Seriously. We have dropped emmissions,

The businesses are cutting carbon and selling it or something. The president has just written a bunch of EOs. What can we do?

[starroute]

8. We haven't dropped emissions. There are no carbon credits.

There is plenty that could be done -- but human nature means having to get to a point of total panic before giving up any of our current goodies. When people realize their neighbors will be flooded out and come camp on their lawn -- and they could be next -- something might actually happen.

Meanwhile, giving in to futility is the best way to guarantee a 230 foot rise and the loss of all our coastal cities. Do you really want that?

[jimlup]

9. We need to encourage alternative (non-fossile fuel) energy

Basically we have to give up our addition to carbon by 2050. If we start now, we might have a chance.

Cutting now, by for example a price on carbon emissions, buys us time. Unfortunately, we will still need to make major changes but if we act now to tax carbon we buy time to act more effectively later.

[daleanime]

13. That would be just a start....

we will need to change our lifestyles, including our eating habits.

[Tea Potty]

24. What can you do?

First of all, stop believing that the Dem establishment like Obama / Hillary have any intention of significantly stopping Climate Change. We are officially Saudi f*cking America, and most Dems don't blink an eye. Obama makes some symbolic gestures, and everyone just drinks the coolaid. The issue is just another checkbox to most voters.

All our climate action has amounted merely to reducing the acceleration of our carbon emissions, not a reduction in any mathematical sense. The report is clear, reduce emissions by 6% per year, if we want decent future for us & our kids. Failure to do so means likely collapse of most of organized civilization. Is this really such a hard decision to make? I don't think so.

Vote Bernie 2016, for the only candidate who grasps the urgency, just like the Pope.

[Nay]

12. Well, exactly. If it bothers people to even talk about it, we're hardly going to get

anything done. What's to debate? Debate is for actual intelligent citizens to engage in, along with their scientists and representatives, and we don't have that construct here in the US. We have screaming climate deniers, rapacious oil companies, dumbed-down majorities, and bought-off politicians. You can't do much with that.

[cynzke]

21. We Can Stop Building Along The Affected Areas.

There will be financial consequences we will face. Best to try to reduce them now rather than later. Why continue building if ultimately the area will be under water. All the beach front build up along the eastern seaboard will suffer. Soon the property values will plummet as people realize that investing in one of those properties will result in a loss. Those high rise condos in Florida will be inhabitable and abandoned within one generation and the people who own them will lose their money. This will affect our entire economy.

[Delphinus]

4. He

is quite passionate - I wish we would listen.

[emmadoggy]

5. The kid knows his stuff.

And he certainly is passionate. I feel the same way, but I've learned not to talk about it IRL because people either get that glazed over look on their faces and look uncomfortable and try to change the subject or leave - or they roll their eyes and poo poo the whole thing.

It's fucking depressing.

[Mnemosyne]

10. We need thousands more with his passion. nt

[daleanime]

14. We have more then thousands,,,,,

if we would just start putting them to work on our problems.

[Mnemosyne]

19. Agree, coordination is a major issue. And if we thought tptb were tough on Occupy... nt

[heaven05]

11. I am so glad to see

this type of concerned passion and awareness in a young person.......puts a lot of staid, uptight adults to shame. Bravo for him, and selfishly, I'm glad I won't be here to see the social consequence of these many people being displaced because of our and thwe worlds addiction to SUV's and their fossil fuel gulping, carbon spewing engines Bravo to this young gentleman...

Thanks for the video.

[daleanime]

15. I'm just glad to see some response....

posts on this subject tend to sink like rocks.

[heaven05]

16. very, very true

[hatrack]

22. Hah! Tell me about it . . .

[daleanime]

23. Nope, I'm very aware....

that you know.

[world wide wally]

17. What if we dig a big hole in what is now called "Texas" and drain all the water there?

They wouldn't have to worry about Obama, gays, or Mexicans and they could go down clenching their guns.

(Sorry…. Just a thought)

[rurallib]

18. there are no doubt some whacky folks who think we can just hop to another planet

you know, just hop in a spaceship and in one network hour we (or they anyway) will all be saved.

Guess what, space rangers, there is no plan B - what we have is all there is. We and our ancestors shit in our nest and it may be time for a clean up.

[MisterP]

20. there's a fun metaphor for that brand of "space cadet"

imagine if the 19th c.'s ideas of the sublime took a slightly different turn, toward mountaineering rather than space: eccentric Russian pioneers insist that the mountaintops are our true homes (and the key to resurrecting everyone who ever died); the 20s and 30s see huge strides in climbing and bouldering that people had believed were impossible, and Hitler makes leaps and bounds in mountain and sub-mountain warfare against Britain and Russia; the 50s sees a massive wave of stories on how ascending past 25K without bottles is not just the only way for humanity to survive, not only something that all 3 billion humans might eventually undergo, but a way to make up for Dachau; a whole generation of boys (and plenty of girls) dream of living atop mountains without bottles and several thousand stunning paintings are made of the *ahem* high life; but those pointing out it's uneconomical and literally called the "death zone" win out, and funding's cut once Gasherbrum started making it seem routine; nevertheless 70s scientists all keep repeating how if we just all spent billions on going past 25K without bottles all our malaise would be over and this 25K Club becomes one of Reagan's big constituencies, and the billions spent on pitons and come-alongs makes a lot of people very happy—but the gravy train can't last forever and the industry is decimated by 1994; the crotchetier scientists and fans say that this shows that the creationists, herbalists, women, and palm-readers have won, and continue insisting that only going past 25K without bottles is the road to our destiny; Neil deGrasse Tyson announces that doubling USGS's budget would reverse our cultural and economic problems, our supposed crisis of confidence and Patrick Moore says he's got a degree in ignoring people who question why we're spending anything on mountaineering; Hyperloop advocates point out that America stopped believing in the future and started stagnating around the time new peaks stopped being summited

(for full disclosure, I literally stared at the New Horizons pages waiting for them to update, moshed at the NASM, and almost fell of Mt Palomar)