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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:36 AM Jun 2014

France begs its citizens to lighten up with tourists

The world's most popular city, Paris, is wrestling with its reputation as the rudest place on earth for tourists. French authorities have rolled out yet another plea for locals to refrain from the Gallic snarl in encounters with foreign visitors.

Speaking at the launch of a new master-plan for tourism at a national conference, Commerce Minister Fleur Pellerin said France needed to “recover a sense of hospitality”, as “too often we mistake service for servility”.

Accompanying her was Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, who said the government now aimed to attract 100 million tourists a year compared to 83 million in 2012.

Fabius, however, warned that the famed French surliness was a pothole on the road to tourism victory: “The logic is simple. An unhappy tourist is a tourist who never comes back.”

http://www.france24.com/en/20140621-france-tourism-industry-rudeness-parisians-industry-economy/?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2014-06-22

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France begs its citizens to lighten up with tourists (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2014 OP
I can't say that I experienced any more rudeness than here in the USA liberal N proud Jun 2014 #1
The French can't touch the Austrians pscot Jun 2014 #2
Amen. And their first cousins, the Germans COLGATE4 Jun 2014 #3
I have found PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #4
I never took any French classes in school, so my French... 3catwoman3 Jun 2014 #8
I've never experienced a rude French person JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #5
You are so right about the "bonjour, madame/monsieur" thing... CTyankee Jun 2014 #9
When I was in France, the only people who treated me rudely were British tourists. Aristus Jun 2014 #6
The French people were great, but the "con artists" were a different story! lucca18 Jun 2014 #7
They've improved. lady lib Jun 2014 #10
when we were in London the kids from france and other counties over to buff up their english roguevalley Jun 2014 #11
Those who speak French, please post appropriate curse words here. I'm going to Paris raccoon Jun 2014 #12
excusez-moi, s'il vous plaît, et merci lady lib Jun 2014 #13
Why, don't they take plastic? nt raccoon Jun 2014 #14
Yes, well what I meant was lady lib Jun 2014 #15
One more thing. lady lib Jun 2014 #16
THanks! Yes, I did that. About 7 years ago, I was in Churchill MB, and hadn't told my credit raccoon Jun 2014 #17
Tourists are not without their faults either... Earth_First Jun 2014 #18
Wouldn't that ruin the je ne sais quoi appeal? FBaggins Jun 2014 #19

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
3. Amen. And their first cousins, the Germans
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jun 2014

aren't far behind them in overall surliness to the tourist.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
4. I have found
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jun 2014

that a smile, friendliness and trying to speak the language goes a long way to breaking the ice - whatever country you are in.

And yes there are rude people all over the world and that goes for tourists too.

I wish France good luck or rather bonne chance with this effort.

3catwoman3

(24,085 posts)
8. I never took any French classes in school, so my French...
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:07 PM
Jun 2014

...is limited to a few words and sentences from those little survival tourist phrase books. During my second visit to Paris, I was in a patisserie and attempted to order a raspberry filled pastry. I was given one with cheese. I had the feeling the person behind the counter was deliberately misunderstanding me, because, even with a non-native accent, I think frambois (?sp) sounds fairly different from frommage.

JustAnotherGen

(31,981 posts)
5. I've never experienced a rude French person
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

In my travels there. Paris is like NYC ; if you remember that they are in an ultimate "rat race" you are fine.

And bonjour Madame or Monsieur when you walk into a business goes a very long way.

We Americans sometimes forget simple greetings and warmth - the French don't.

Now the rudest people I've experienced are those in St. Martin, Holland - and although polite - London comes across as frosty and arrogant.

Quite a difference when you leave London for Dublin and the Irish are so friendly and curious.

CTyankee

(63,914 posts)
9. You are so right about the "bonjour, madame/monsieur" thing...
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jun 2014

it goes the same in Italy with "buon giorno, signora, signore." They are used to the greeting and the title used to address them.

And I didn't find the Parisians particularly rude. You can, however, find a rude person here and there in every country. The Dutch and Belgians are prickly but not mean. The Belgians, in particular, didn't much like Americans speaking to them in French...they knew English very well and would prefer us to use their language of Flemish, esp. outside of Brussels...

Aristus

(66,487 posts)
6. When I was in France, the only people who treated me rudely were British tourists.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

"Oh, how droll! Check out the Yank who thinks he can speak our language properly!"

That sort of thing.

The French were cool.

When I was stationed in Germany in the Army, strangers may not have been warm and effusive, but they were always polite. The German friends I made over there, however, were meltingly kind, friendly, funny, and open.

I suspect if one goes looking for rude behavior, he or she will most likely find it...

lucca18

(1,244 posts)
7. The French people were great, but the "con artists" were a different story!
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jun 2014

During our 10 days in Paris we had about a dozen people trying to scam us, but after awhile we just laughed it off.

lady lib

(2,933 posts)
10. They've improved.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jun 2014

I was in Paris in the late 80's and they were every bit as rude as my French teachers had warned me about. Then I went back two years ago and didn't encounter any rudeness at all. What I did encounter was a police and military presence that I don't remember seeing on my earlier visit.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
11. when we were in London the kids from france and other counties over to buff up their english
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:43 AM
Jun 2014

were incredibly rude. They didn't even try to pretend to form lines. I can't tell you how many times I was run over on the underground or slagged by an elbow by an idiot cutting in line.

raccoon

(31,130 posts)
12. Those who speak French, please post appropriate curse words here. I'm going to Paris
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 09:05 AM
Jun 2014

next week, and may need them.


(Just to clarify:



lady lib

(2,933 posts)
13. excusez-moi, s'il vous plaît, et merci
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:29 PM
Jun 2014

be the change...

Also, bring lots and lots of euros if you plan on eating anywhere other than the Turkish doner shops (kabobs, etc.). fyi.

lady lib

(2,933 posts)
15. Yes, well what I meant was
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jun 2014

it can be expensive to eat out, and American credit cards can be iffy if you don't have a chip and pin style card (most American cards don't have that technology yet). They will probably take it regardless, but it's good to have cash just in case. Hope that helps.

Hope you have a blast on your trip!!

lady lib

(2,933 posts)
16. One more thing.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:03 PM
Jun 2014

You've probably already done this, but I feel like I need to mention it.
Don't forget to call your credit card company and let them know you'll be traveling overseas (they'll want the dates and country). This is to prevent your card from being flagged for fraudulent use.

Again, have a great trip!

raccoon

(31,130 posts)
17. THanks! Yes, I did that. About 7 years ago, I was in Churchill MB, and hadn't told my credit
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:09 PM
Jun 2014

card people I was travelling (didn't know to) and .....guess what?

The card wasn't accepted!

Luckily I was able to call the 800 number and get it straightened out. Lesson learned.





Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
18. Tourists are not without their faults either...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 06:27 AM
Jun 2014

Making at least an elementary attempt to converse in the language of the country you are visiting goes a long way.

Many English-speaking tourists take it for granted that many speak English, or in fact multiple languages.

Additionally knowing simple cultural observances such as hand gestures, eye contact and posture turn otherwise innocuous situations into tense, less than welcoming events.

Travel well...

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