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Who won Iraq? By Tom Engelhardt
As Iraq was unraveling last week and the possible outlines of the first jihadist state in modern history were coming into view, I remembered this nugget from the summer of 2002. At the time, journalist Ron Suskind had a meeting with "a senior advisor" to president George W Bush (later identified as Karl Rove). Here's how he described part of their conversation:
"The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'"
As events unfold increasingly chaotically across the region that officials of the Bush years liked to call the Greater Middle East, consider the eerie accuracy of that statement. The president, his vice president Dick Cheney, his defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and his national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, among others, were indeed "history's actors". They did create "new realities" and, just as Rove suggested, the rest of us are now left to "study" what they did.
And oh, what they did! Their geopolitical dreams couldn't have been grander or more global. (Let's avoid the word "megalomaniacal".) They expected to pacify the Greater Middle East, garrison Iraq for generations, make Syria and Iran bow down before American power, "drain" the global "swamp" of terrorists, and create a global Pax Americana based on a military so dominant that no other country or bloc of countries would ever challenge it.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-03-200614.html
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Who won Iraq? By Tom Engelhardt (Original Post)
bemildred
Jun 2014
OP
I like the way the author reminds the reader how fucking crazy they were to have ever even
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
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FBaggins
(26,778 posts)1. Does there have to be a winner?
There can be multiple losers.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)2. I like the way the author reminds the reader how fucking crazy they were to have ever even
considered such a thing. Not that you need reminding, but you know what I mean...it was truly
the greatest crime of the 21st century.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)3. Does that sound like the Roman Empire to anyone else? And in the end they did not win either.