A Christmas Speculation: "Christian" Republicans are in fact Satanists

[Jessy169]

Yet these latter are the things that a great many Republicans, and in particular a great many of those Republicans who claim to be motivated by their Christian faith, have been pursuing in practice, if not always advocating in theory. If they’re deriving their commitments from a religion, it’s pretty clearly not the one taught by Jesus. Many people have made this same point in recent years, but it doesn’t seem to have occurred to any of them that another religion that’s active in today’s America does teach all the things the GOP supports. That religion, of course, is Satanism, and more specifically the version of it taught in Anton Szandor LaVey’s The Satanic Bible.

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As the number of devil worshippers in evangelical churches and the Christian end of the Republican Party increased, though, their most pressing need would have been some surreptitious way to signal their involvement to those who shared their convictions, without believers in the Christian gospel being any the wiser. Coming up with a Satanic shibboleth that would be instantly recognizable to other devil worshippers, but completely opaque to devout Christians, might seem like a tall order, but it’s one that seems to have been met with aplomb.

Yes, this is where we discuss Ayn Rand.

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/

[DetlefK]

1. Too long a read, but good points.

[Jessy169]

3. Yep, too long to read for me too

Which is pretty much true of everything Greer writes. But doing a "speed reading" scan of the entire article reveals some very good and in fact excellent points, as you mention.

The main message of this article is that despite professing to be "family values" and "Christian", the Republican Party (aka: right wing) are ANYTHING BUT Christian and family-values oriented in their policies, in fact they are the exact opposite -- so much so that they are actually advocating and attempting to enforce policies that SATAN himself would endorse whole-heartedly.

[NMDemDist2]

2. that was a most excellent read! thanks for sharing n/t

[Jessy169]

4. UR most welcome!

Most of the Republican/Right Wing T-Bagging idiots probably don't even know that they are doing SATAN's will.

[niyad]

5. very interesting, and worthwhile, reading.

[alterfurz]

6. I'm Paul Ryan...

...and I approve this message.

[freshwest]

22. Ah, thanks, that corrects my IIRC. n/t

[alterfurz]

24. and IIRC, it was in the Reagan era when the GOP re-oriented their logo stars...

...into the inverted/black magic pentagram position-?

[freshwest]

28. IDK... I've tried to ignore 'em until it became impossible. Like Stephon King's Langoliers...

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On a red eye flight to Boston from LA 10 people wake up to a shock. All the passengers and crew have vanished. When they try to contact the ground they make no connections. They land the plane only to discover that things haven't changed. But its like the world is dead. No one is there, the air is still, sound doesn't echo, the food is tasteless.

And a distant sound is heard coming closer. A race of monstrous beings bent on their destruction is heading for them, eating everything in sight.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112040/plotsummary

And we are confronted with holding them back, or creating a new world that allows us to live, and the planet to survive, but they don't care. When Romney was running Bain and destroying communities, he was praised by his ilk for cutting out all the deadwood and debris, even from companies that weren't in trouble.

So the deadwood was really the working people, that they want to eliminate from life. I have considered if they are right. H.G. Wells said that new world order would come, no matter what, and that many people full of beauty and grace would die resisting it, but it would come, all the same. I've decided after arguing with libertarians and teabaggers for a long time elsewhere, that they believe they are carrying out a mission.

To rid the Earth of the people whom they consider unworthy to live. They have a long list, longer than the 47%. They tell us to our face, more and more every day. A Bill Maher quote sums up our goal, and it's an hard and unpleasant one:

In The Great Divide Between Democrats and Republicans, Some Words From Bill Maher To Remember...

"Democrats in America were put on Earth to do one thing... drag the ignorant, hillbilly half of this country into the next century, which in their case, is the 19th."

So we see their winner take all, rip the Earth to pieces as antique and unsustainable, and they see us a fossils of a softer sensibility holding back their view of utopia. I've read libertarian screeds about how the billionaires have a great model for us all to follow, so let's dissolve all the government, and let them create it.

So there is always more than one side. Theirs believes the world should be just the way they want it to be never 'taking prisoners.'

We're like Rodney King pleading:

'Can't we all just get along?'

[OnyxCollie]

7. Please do not defame Satanists by calling them Republicans.

THE BOOK OF SATAN II

12. Whatever alleged "truth" is proven by results to be but an empty fiction, let it be unceremoniously flung into the outer darkness, among the dead gods, dead empires, dead philosophies, and other useless lumber and wreckage!
13. The most dangerous of all enthroned lies is the holy, the sanctified, the privileged lie - the lie everyone believes to be a model truth. It is the fruitful mother of all other popular errors and delusions. It is a hydra-headed tree of unreason with a thousand roots. It is a social cancer!
14. The lie that is known to be a lie is half eradicated, but the lie that even intelligent persons accept as fact - the lie that has been inculcated in a little child at its mother's knee - is more dangerous to contend against than a creeping pestilence!
15. Popular lies have ever been the most potent enemies of personal liberty. There is only one way to deal with them: Cut them out, to the very core, just as cancers. Exterminate them root and branch. Annihilate them, or they will us!

Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible, p. 17.

[MNBrewer]

10. +1

[freshwest]

8. Read it all, and am going to read the other articles there. Interesting perspectives. Re: the GOP:

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Thom Hartmann performs an Exorcism on the GOP - Really!

Uploaded on Jun 29, 2011

Proof that Bush & Republicans have gone to the Dark Side with the Devil stars.

to DUer Thom Hartmann.

I've usually posted that video as a parody. The best of that genre often speaks of things that others refuse to discuss. When speaking to people in that part of their mind where religion or the concepts of good and evil is engrained in them, at times that is the only way. I push more toward cause and effect, and the benefits from negative actions.

As your linked article states, there are reasons. I've been told before that in that mindset, when planning to do something harmful to another is required. That agreement with lack of discernment or awareness, not looking deeper into things, means you are considered lawful prey.

And that one only has to telegraph, by saying things that are the exact opposite of one's actions, to get the universe's approval for wrongdoing. Think of terms in the way the GOP uses them, calling taking food and money from the poor, disabled and elderly, a 'reform.'

The word 'reform' to most people means something will be better for all and innovation, not starving and killing people. Their plans to privatize social security and other programs because they say that 'government is evil and ungodly', is outright theft for the greedy. it is not an improvement. This was refuted very well in the OP's linked article.

A discerning person looks to the effect of the proposed action or searches their own heart, using the Golden Rule, or feeling love and empathy for others generally. But if a distracted, brainwashed or uncaring person mindlessly chants what they hear with only their own selfish or low level feelings engaged and fails to think or feel compassion, that is construed as agreement.

Thus the use of dramatic words and music, slogans, and repetition in media is used to sway them from the inclusive views liberals believe in, and the long term good of all, not short term gain or more honestly called, theft, and maintaing a living environment. Then any sort of evil action can be done, robbery, torture, mayhem, bigotry, war and murder -- without blame. After all, no one thought ahead and objected. That's what we face in this electorate.

Biblically, Satan plays the role of the hater and destroyer of ALL life. We see the GOP's parody of loving life with the unborn, but not the mother or the child when it is born. At that point, it is deemed worthless by their social policy. They call Democrats godless baby killers, yet the long term policy of Democrats following the social democratic route, leads to less death and less abortion.

But this method works for the selfish, the hateful, the spiritually shallow or those in love with their own comfort. Does this not fit the GOP voter?

Here are Thom Hartmann's political views from the Wikipedia page:

Political views[edit]

Hartmann is considered to have progressive/liberal politics (although he describes himself as part of the radical middle).[33] He is the author of numerous books including Unequal Protection: The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights, in which he argues that the 1886 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company (118 U.S. 394) did not actually grant corporate personhood, and that this doctrine derives from a mistaken interpretation of a Supreme Court clerk's notes. Hartmann considers this a clear contradiction of the intent of the Founding Fathers of the United States.[34] He has also written on the separation of church and state, drawing upon the Federalist Papers to argue that the Founding Fathers warned against the notion of the United States being a Christian nation. He contends that the 2000 American election and 2004 American election were stolen through electronic tampering, denial of the voting franchise by rigged voting lists, and limiting availability of voting machines in selected precincts. He also accuses the Bush administration of eroding democracy and individual freedoms.

Hartmann is also a vocal critic of the effects of neoliberal globalization on the U.S. economy, claiming that economic policies enacted during and since the presidency of Ronald Reagan have led, in large part, to many American industrial enterprises' being acquired by multinational firms based in overseas countries, leading in many cases to manufacturing jobs' – once considered a major foundation of the U.S. economy – being relocated to countries in Asia and other areas where the costs of labor are lower than in the U.S.; and the concurrent reversal of the United States' traditional role of a leading exporter of finished manufactured goods to that of a primary importer of finished manufactured goods (exemplified by massive trade deficits with countries such as China). Hartmann argues that this phenomenon is leading to the erosion of the American middle class, whose survival Hartmann deems critical to the survival of American democracy. This argument is expressed in Hartmann's 2006 book, Screwed: The Undeclared War Against The Middle Class and What We Can Do About It. One of the book's main arguments is that media deregulation leads to corporate media's shifting the American consensus towards the acceptance of privatization and massive corporate profits – which causes the shrinking of the middle class.

In the book Ultimate Sacrifice, he and co-author Lamar Waldron argue that President John F. Kennedy's assassination resulted from a conspiracy by two Mafia godfathers (Carlos Marcello and Santo Trafficante, Jr.) who took advantage of a proposed 1963 USA-sponsored coup against Cuba's Fidel Castro to kill the President and then hide their tracks in the resulting cover-up of the top-secret coup plans. Gore Vidal, in his autobiography Point To Point Navigation devotes much of the final two chapters of his book to praising Hartmann's and Lamar Waldron's scholarship in "solving" the JFK case (JFK was a friend of Vidal's).

In a 2013 interview with Politico, Hartmann described his political philosophy as democratic socialism: “I’ve lived in Europe. I think that the countries that call themselves democratic socialist — Germany, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland — have the most functional political and economic system. So, somebody says, what’s your political philosophy? I’d say Democratic socialism. But boy, the crap you take when you say socialist. Because people don’t understand it. They think I’m talking about Soviet-style socialism, which I’m not.”[35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Hartmann#Political_views

I agree with the majority of that. I've always been a social democrat, and at one type worked and succeeded in my district for socialists. That was from reading the New Testament, as it seemed to the modern version of how early Christians were described to live in communities. Some communist slogans come directly from that part of the Bible.

I've never been a religious fanatic, but see it can be part of a social framework to do things for life, saving people, animals, plants, marine life and the air and water intact for future generations. No one seems to care about this anymore, they are interested in the market, thus money and commodifying all living things to mean no more than dead things, and the condition does not matter, so long as money is made in satanic mathematics.

LeVey said in a television, IIRC, 'I give you Ayn Rand with trappings.' Rand was a drug addicted sociopath, who did not care for anyone living but herself and her own wants. She advocated their being used as nothing but machines and discarded.

Surely this is wrong, just as the Nazis gathered the belongings and weighed and measured them for sale, of those they sent to die in camps. If I want addle pated reasoning, I'm sure someone in the middle of DT's could provide just as good and useful of a philosophy.

Those who find nuggets of truth in her writings deny their own advantages from a social democracy that she wanted to destroy but used when she needed it. She was the ultimate parasite on society.

I believe the Democratic Party, or people like Bernie Sanders who votes with the Democratic Party to get things done, is the only way to achieve what I feel needs to be done.

People die waiting for socialism of the classic variety, while the mixed kind in Europe has yielded great results for individuals just as such policies here have. Misinformation and conflation about socialism and social democracy is a lie created by the business class in this nation to do things that are despicable.

[Jessy169]

15. Unrestrained capitalism destroys life, as does unrestrained Republicanism

The two have become inextricably intertwined. Unrestrained capitalism knows no mercy -- it is cold as steel. Same with Republicanism. Both are ruthless. Both worship wealth and power. Both are out-of-control monsters, leaving a trail of destruction as they march directly and ultimately to their own self-destruction, a doom of their own making in which they hope and intend to bring the rest of the world down with them. A "true Republican" these days is a sick and warped version of humanity, corrupted by lies and money and greed and total insensitivity to mother earth's needs.

[freshwest]

19. Agreed, and those of other parties that chant their mantras are too. A view that leads to death:

From my thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110219113

Thanks for posting that article and the link, I'm busy but going to go through the entire site.

[Jessy169]

21. Watch out! Be careful!

Reading too much JMG and following some of the links on his blog will expose you to the ultimate truth of our time, the one grand-daddy of all truths which, if you don't already know it, will shake you to the core and hit you with an adrenaline rush of combined fear and wonder. At least, it did for me.

Hint: TEOTWAWKI

[freshwest]

23. Correcting the LeVey quote:

to alterfurz

[cinnabonbon]

9. Oh snap

I really enjoyed reading this.

[Richard D]

11. Actually are . .

many references to this in the New Testament. Warnings if you will that could be construed to point the finger at much of the evangelical movement.

[malthaussen]

12. Bah, why would you insult good Satanists that way? n/t

[Jessy169]

13. My favorite part:

And here are the passages in which Jesus tells his followers to blame the poor and vulnerable for their plight, direct benefits toward the already well-to-do at the expense of everyone else, refuse to pay their fair share of taxes, and obsessively denounce and punish the sins of people they don’t like while finding every opportunity to excuse their own sins and those of their friends:

... crickets

[magical thyme]

14. read that a short while ago...

JMG's second foray into satire his a home run, imho.

[Jessy169]

18. You must be referring to

"Man, Conqueror of Nature, Dead at 408", as the first foray into satire.

For all who might be interested: http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2013/12/man-conqueror-of-nature-dead-at-408.html

[magical thyme]

26. Yup. nt

[gordianot]

16. Exactly I have used the same thesis for several years.

Want to infuriate a self proclaimed fundamentalist Christian look no further. Of course they have no concept who Anton Le Vey and what he represents.

[madrchsod]

17. good read..thanks for posting

[Scuba]

25. Does this mean we can replace "just like Hitler" with "devil worshipper"?

[polynomial]

27. Hope for a better new year

This has been the worst year of my life, glad it is over, however there are important legal issues that have to be addressed. One issue in particular involves my injury and termination with Union Pacific railroad. The safety director at the Union Pacific railroad is clever and instrumental key player in the American deception profit mill. Currently according to the local union legal firm a Federal Claim is in the process with OSHA, and a medical law suit is being planned too. Yes, I am also supposed to be a “Whistle Blower”. That is a hoot, I was fired for an immoral question at a safety meeting. I asked a question in reference to OSHA with integrity.

Imagine signing a contract with a legal firm that will charge over four hundred dollars an hour to file and work the claim. However, the law firm said it does not take these kind of issues unless it is sure it will win the law suit and won’t be charged if it is lost.

The legal stuff must be flying because I am asking maximum punitive damages that could result in a fine up to or exceeding two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The Union Pacific railroad said it might drop charges and remove all allegations from my record pending a physical. You know what really is the outrage my injury has already been examined my doctor and a specialist. The Union Pacific Railroad Company declines to pay the medical bills from the emergency room or my therapy. Now I had to go to a company contracted doctor seven months after my injury. Isn’t that hoot.

I have all this documented in an investigation transcript. Plus my own personal experience and witness to very unfair labor practices in personal management and training. Oh yes, training in fictitious areas on paper then being required to work in areas that do not apply to training material is not only with the Union Pacific rail road but system wide.

They say the rules and regulations should apply anywhere. What is called the “slope of repose” used extensively in excavation is different for different areas. The Slope angle of repose is a term OSHA has in much of it safety material but totally ignored by the Union Pacific rail road in safety briefing. I would likely be better prepared to avoid an injury if information about angle of repose was an integral part the footing problems many have to work through in the rail road.

Seriously thinking about writing a book about Union Pacific management and training issues experienced over the years. Especially, about this injury, how the safety management team is trying to ditch the injury so they would not have to report it.