Gen Z boys and men more likely than baby boomers to believe feminism harmful, says poll

[Eugene]

Also: Masculinity and women's equality: study finds emerging gender divide in young people's attitudes (King's College London)

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Source: The Guardian

Gen Z boys and men more likely than baby boomers to believe feminism harmful, says poll

Fifth of men aged 16-29 look favourably on social media influencer Andrew Tate

Robert Booth Social affairs correspondent
Thu 1 Feb 2024 05.00 GMT
Last modified on Thu 1 Feb 2024 12.00 GMT

Boys and men from generation Z are more likely than older baby boomers to believe that feminism has done more harm than good, according to research that shows a “real risk of fractious division among this coming generation”.

One in four UK males aged 16 to 29 believe it is harder to be a man than a woman and a fifth of those who have heard of him now look favourably on the social media influencer Andrew Tate, the polling of over 3,600 people found.

Tate, the British-American former kickboxer who has 8.7 million followers on the social media platform X, is facing charges in Romania, which he denies, of human trafficking, rape and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women. He has talked about hitting and choking women and has said he is “absolutely a misogynist”.

The bestselling author and Canadian academic, Jordan Peterson, is also seen favourably by 32% of 16 to 29-year-old men, compared with 12% among women of the same generation. Peterson speaks up for “demoralised young men” and says Tate offers “forthright aggression” as an alternative to “cringing defeat”.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/feb/01/gen-z-boys-and-men-more-likely-than-baby-boomers-to-believe-feminism-harmful-says-poll

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Source: King's College London

01 February 2024

Masculinity and women's equality: study finds emerging gender divide in young people's attitudes

Young men are notably less positive than young women about the impact of feminism

Young people’s attitudes to masculinity and women’s equality show signs of an emerging gender divide, with the views of men and women often differing more within younger, rather than older, generations, according to a new study.

The findings, from King’s College London’s Policy Institute and Global Institute for Women’s Leadership in partnership with Ipsos UK, shows the gender split in views is starkest among the young when it comes to how helpful the term “toxic masculinity” is, whether it’s harder to be a man than a woman today, whether feminism has done more good or harm to society, and approval of the influencer Andrew Tate.

The research – which is based on a representative survey of 3,716 people aged 16+ using the Ipsos UK online random probability KnowledgePanel – also shows that in some cases young men today are no more supportive of action on gender equality than older men, despite their generally being more socially liberal, and that young men tend to be more worried about the challenges facing men.

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Read more: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/masculinity-and-womens-equality-study-finds-emerging-gender-divide-in-young-peoples-attitudes

[hlthe2b]

1. Are we raising an entire cohort of "babies?" Just as this was posted this morning:

Certainly seems to fit this "trend" 'boys?' "clearly not-men" "incels?"

[CrispyQ]

2. Their whiteness & their maleness are being challenged in ways never before & they aren't handling it well.

They realize women are closer to breaking the chains of the patriarchy while we realize we could easily slide back decades if we let up the fight.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Testosterone is a hell of a drug.

American fans of Tate and Peterson are in for major heartache this November.

[samnsara]

4. harnful to their fee-fees..

..poor babies probably still rely on mom to make their beds

[Beausoleil]

5. Damn! What happened to personal responsibility?

I came up in the 70's and 80'd and always felt like I was swimming upstream against a macho culture.

But I stood up on my own two feet and made a life for myself. Never whined or cried about it or blamed women or anyone else.

But that's just me.

What a bunch of weaselly babies.

[Aristus]

6. No. It's me, too.

I'm actually inspired by smart, strong, independent women.

But I noticed something, looking back on old movies from the 1950's and 60's. In so many of those screwball comedies from that period (as opposed to the ones from the 1930's and 40's), there always seem to be a bunch of unsavory, unattractive middle-aged men creeping on or stalking the blonde bombshell (usually portrayed by Marilyn Monroe or Jane Mansfield). And it was always expected that the man would get his way because (they never mentioned the fact that he was a white male) he was the office manager, the head honcho, the guy in charge, and the woman was supposed to submit to his clumsy passes or outright harassment because he was the man, however distasteful he and his behavior might be.

Movies about men, written by men, for men.

That has been in the process of changing for the last thirty years or so. And the old fatherly advice to the awkward son "Just keep at her, boy! She'll come around if you keep trying!" is now known to be harmful and hugely ill-advised.

Some guys are pissed because their built-in "I have you in my power!" mojo is finally being recognized as being socially unacceptable at best, and criminal at worst.

[Beausoleil]

7. When I was in grade school

for a few years I was always one of the top three students, the other two were girls.
I thought we were all equals. So maybe I grew up with a more egalitarian attitude towards women in general.

Obviously the backlash to feminism is reponsible for some of the abhorrent and aberrant behavior we see, but a lot of it is that these guys don't want to grow up.