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Jilly_in_VA

(10,020 posts)
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 02:52 PM Jan 2024

The big idea: what if every little thing you do changes history?

When we contemplate travelling back in time, we’re always given the same warning: be sure not to touch anything. Even one squished bug could irrevocably change the future. You might even write yourself out of existence. Why, then, don’t we think like that about the present? If every tiny change from the past creates our present, then every aspect of our present creates our future, too.

Chaos theory is a definitively established scientific truth about how complex systems are sensitive to tiny changes – that small flukes can have enormous effects. It’s not really a theory; it’s been proved over and over again. It’s why we can’t predict the weather more than a week in advance. If our calculations are off by even a tiny amount, all bets are off.

Those dynamics are simply ignored when we consider humans instead of physical matter. There’s no good reason for it – we’re subject to the same laws of physics as everything else – but we just pretend it isn’t true. Perhaps it’s because what might happen to our future selves if we squished the wrong bug are so overwhelming that it’s easier to pretend the world works differently. But it doesn’t.

That’s why history is often made by seemingly insignificant moments that don’t always make sense. The atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima rather than Kyoto because a US government official holidayed in Kyoto 19 years earlier; Trump may have decided to run for president in 2016 after Obama publicly humiliated him with one joke in 2011; the Arab spring was sparked by a vegetable vendor in central Tunisia who decided to set himself on fire. We’re told to focus on big, obvious variables – the “signal” – while ignoring “the noise”. But the noise – the buzz of the complexity of society – often profoundly alters our world.

In a broader sense, our species only exists because of a series of flukes. Two billion years ago – and never again – a single bacterium bumped into a prokaryotic cell and ended up inside it. It evolved into a mitochondrion, making complex life possible, from grass and trees to snails and humans. One hundred million years ago, a shrew-like creature got infected with a retrovirus, eventually leading to the placenta and, by extension, the reason why we don’t lay eggs. Sixty-six million years ago, a tiny oscillation in the Oort cloud flung an asteroid towards Earth, wiping out the dinosaurs, allowing mammals to flourish. If the asteroid had been slightly delayed, humans wouldn’t exist. Everything we’ve achieved would be gone, but for a distant oscillation and a giant space rock. The story of our existence is often written in the margins.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/jan/29/the-big-idea-what-if-every-little-thing-you-do-changes-history

It's true that everything you do changes your life and perhaps, the lives of those around you, but this? I don't know....

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global1

(25,285 posts)
1. WoW!!! Thanks For This Post - This Is Something For All Of Us To Contemplate......
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:01 PM
Jan 2024

Think of the novel that could be based on your post.

I see a danger in that - every decision that one makes could change their life or the world in some way. I can see that a person actually struggles then with every decision that they have to make. It possibly could lead to people shutting down when faced with a decision - for fear as to how it would change whats coming next.

Hmmm..... living in a decisionless future?

lastlib

(23,344 posts)
2. "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:17 PM
Jan 2024

Rush*, "Free Will"



(*the band--Not Limbaugh.)

ms liberty

(8,614 posts)
4. Reccing this because you beat me to the Rush reference!
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:23 PM
Jan 2024

My husband has a tshirt with a pic of kimono era Rush on one side and limpballs on the other with the caption "Good Rush/Bad Rush"

global1

(25,285 posts)
8. The Person Not Making A Decision Does Not Realize - In And Of Itself - It Is A Decision....
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:37 PM
Jan 2024

which makes this sci-fi novel more intriguing.

limbicnuminousity

(1,406 posts)
10. Cultural manifestation.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:51 PM
Jan 2024

I don't know the truth of this but I did read one tribe made a point of contemplating how "pivotal" decisions might impact their descendants to the seventh generation. I've always had immense respect for that notion.

ck4829

(35,094 posts)
3. Funny thing is, that in itself is making a decision IMHO
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:20 PM
Jan 2024

Running away or shutting down in the face of a decision is still making a decision. Now is it optimal or in the best interest of the person doing that? Probably not.

Way I see it, a person CHOSE to not participate in a decision, letting someone else or some other factor make that decision for them.

patphil

(6,234 posts)
7. Every decision you make; every action you perform changes you, and ripples outward.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:35 PM
Jan 2024

Some decisions are relatively inconsequential, like getting a glass of milk from the fridge, or to watch a particular rerun on TV.
Others can have powerful and unforeseen results, like taking a wrong turn and ending up in just the right place to help someone who has just had an accident, and may have died if you weren't there.
Life is a amazing dance of decisions and actions. Everything matters.

limbicnuminousity

(1,406 posts)
9. Go back 50 generations on your mom's side.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:48 PM
Jan 2024

Imagine one of the critical ancestor pairings never happened. Causality mixed with chaos theory is a heady mind trip.

scipan

(2,361 posts)
11. Then it matters even more if we are kind.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 09:59 PM
Jan 2024

I'm reminded of RFK's (what I think of as his ripples) speech:

Thousands of Peace Corps volunteers are making a difference in the isolated villages and the city slums of dozens of countries. Thousands of unknown men and women in Europe resisted the occupation of the Nazis and many died, but all added to the ultimate strength and freedom of their countries. It is from numberless diverse acts of courage such as these that the belief that human history is thus shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.


https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/the-kennedy-family/robert-f-kennedy/robert-f-kennedy-speeches/day-of-affirmation-address-university-of-capetown-capetown-south-africa-june-6-1966
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