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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,356 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 02:57 PM Jan 2024

Supreme Court may soon allow arrests for homelessness

By Erwin Chemerinsky / Los Angeles Times

Is homelessness a crime? The answer should obviously be no. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court agreed Friday to review a case that poses that question, and there is every reason to fear that the conservative justices will allow governments to criminalize sleeping in public spaces even if people have nowhere else to go.

The case, Johnson v. City of Grants Pass, involves a local ordinance for the Oregon city that says: “No person may sleep on public sidewalks, streets, or alleyways at any time as a matter of individual and public safety.” The law also prohibits homeless people from using blankets, pillows or cardboard boxes for protection from the elements.

A panel of the San Francisco-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit declared this unconstitutional, concluding that the government can’t punish people criminally or civilly for being unhoused or for having bedding materials. The court relied on its consequential 2018 ruling in Martin v. Boise, which held that the 8th Amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishment “prohibits the imposition of criminal penalties for sitting, sleeping or lying outside on public property for homeless individuals who cannot obtain shelter.”

The Supreme Court declined to review Martin v. Boise but was expected to take the Grants Pass case. When the entire 9th Circuit Court of Appeals narrowly declined to review its panel’s decision in the latter case, the court’s Republican-appointed judges vehemently dissented and could not have been more emphatic in urging Supreme Court review.

https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/comment-supreme-court-may-soon-allow-arrests-for-homelessness/

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Supreme Court may soon allow arrests for homelessness (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2024 OP
have they closed the poor houses? getagrip_already Jan 2024 #1
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? Easterncedar Jan 2024 #3
A church pastor in Ohio was arrested for letting homeless people sleep in his church during a bitter cold spell Diamond_Dog Jan 2024 #2
Ok as long as you harvest responsibly Easterncedar Jan 2024 #4
they are vermin after all..... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #5
I guess the 2016 election did have major consequences! Omnipresent Jan 2024 #6
Shocking, forget democracy, hello fascism. In the UK: appalachiablue Jan 2024 #7
Okay, you tea-slurping fuckbrain; if it's a choice worth making, Aristus Jan 2024 #8
I knew someone who lived on the street while orthoclad Jan 2024 #9

Diamond_Dog

(32,129 posts)
2. A church pastor in Ohio was arrested for letting homeless people sleep in his church during a bitter cold spell
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 03:09 PM
Jan 2024

I guess the next question will be is it illegal to shoot them….

getagrip_already

(14,920 posts)
5. they are vermin after all.....
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 03:18 PM
Jan 2024

Poisoning the blood of our country. An assault on our communities.

Their mere existence is a threat. They must be dealt with.

(sarcasm)

Omnipresent

(5,734 posts)
6. I guess the 2016 election did have major consequences!
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 03:48 PM
Jan 2024

This is on the folks that didn’t vote and also complained, “There is no difference between Hilary and tfg”.

appalachiablue

(41,184 posts)
7. Shocking, forget democracy, hello fascism. In the UK:
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 04:05 PM
Jan 2024

- Jon Pie, UK Home Secretary wants new laws to restrict tents, homelessnes is a "lifestyle choice." ?!

Aristus

(66,484 posts)
8. Okay, you tea-slurping fuckbrain; if it's a choice worth making,
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:24 PM
Jan 2024

why aren't YOU homeless? If it's so great not having a roof over your head, and eating out of dumpsters, give it a go, as the Brits say.








...asshole...

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
9. I knew someone who lived on the street while
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 03:52 PM
Jan 2024

suffering terrible sickness.
He kept trying to get arrested so he could get medical care in prison.
What kind of hellhole have we created?

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