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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:14 AM Jan 2024

Meghan McCain's sexist comment shows why Nikki Haley has no chance of winning the GOP nomination

Meghan McCain's sexist comment shows why Nikki Haley has no chance of winning the GOP nomination
Republicans may say they're be okay with a female president, but they always find an excuse to not vote for a woman

By AMANDA MARCOTTE
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED JANUARY 17, 2024 6:00AM (EST)


(Salon) Leave it to Meghan McCain to offer the perfect example of the ironclad rule: Anyone who claims they are "not sexist" is about to say something ridiculously sexist. In this case, the former host of "The View" revealed her misogynist instincts with regards to Vice President Kamala Harris, in a recent episode of McCain's podcast.

"Not because of sexism," McCain claimed before she unloaded a series of sexist stereotypes about Harris, saying the vice president is "really unserious" and sounds like "a 19-year-old stoner in college who's high at 3 a.m." McCain insisted it's a mystery why "I have a very strong adverse reaction to her."

"If anything, Vice President Harris has proven to me that maybe a woman can't be Vice President. I actually think she's setting feminism back 10 years," McCain said. She then covered her tracks by claiming, clearly falsely, "There are so many female politicians I love and respect that I'd be happy with being President."

Ah yes, the old "I'd love to vote for a woman, just not that woman" gambit. As Maggie Astor of the New York Times wrote in 2019, "Few Americans acknowledge they would hesitate to vote for a woman for president." Instead, they simply hold women to a standard so high and contradictory that no woman could ever meet it. For instance, sexist voters dislike ambition in female politicians, but of course, the mere act of running for office is inherently ambitious. Or, as with McCain's "19-year-old" comment, sexists will sneer at the high timbre of a woman's voice. But if a woman has a voice low enough to sound like a man's, they would object that it's weird and off-putting. ...............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2024/01/17/meghan-mccains-sexist-comment-shows-why-nikki-haley-has-no-chance-of-winning-the-nomination/




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Meghan McCain's sexist comment shows why Nikki Haley has no chance of winning the GOP nomination (Original Post) marmar Jan 2024 OP
That is why when Hillary was defeated, I was convinced they would never be a woman as president in my lifetime Walleye Jan 2024 #1
I agree. In many ways, we are still a patriarchal country. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #4
Doormats is exactly the right word, unfortunately Walleye Jan 2024 #8
Hillary was cheated. czarjak Jan 2024 #5
In 2016 Salon was on the cutting edge of "Not That Woman" politics comradebillyboy Jan 2024 #6
so were a lot of those on the left..... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #7
Indeed they are. comradebillyboy Jan 2024 #11
--- and you're ok with she had Vince Foster killed? 3Hotdogs Jan 2024 #14
So were a lot in the center-right Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #16
The further-left went after Warren in 2020, too. yardwork Jan 2024 #23
Didn't have near the impact Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #27
I disparage when disparagement is warranted. yardwork Jan 2024 #28
In 2020 some on here were on the cutting edge of Not That woman Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #15
true that... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #19
meghan is a perfect example of why not all women are my sisters. niyad Jan 2024 #2
Hailey's a racist piece of lying shit, I would pardon tRump, and push for women to not .... LenaBaby61 Jan 2024 #3
I can't really understand why any woman would be a Republican, I mean McCain and Cheney inherited it but still Walleye Jan 2024 #9
the 15 week bit is really flexible with her... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #10
Another reason might be.... surfered Jan 2024 #12
And she is not only a woman but she is a person of color as well. Don't see many Repugs embracing either naturally. dutch777 Jan 2024 #13
we are programmed et tu Jan 2024 #17
Pretty clear DownriverDem Jan 2024 #18
She is an evil pos like Nikki Haley! kimbutgar Jan 2024 #20
In the 2008 primaries, my wife wanted Clinton. I wanted Obama. Squaredeal Jan 2024 #21
McCain insisted it's a mystery why "I have a very strong adverse reaction to her." Ray Bruns Jan 2024 #22
Many unsubstantiated internecine attacks in this thread. GreenWave Jan 2024 #24
Of all the preposterous BS Republicans concoct, the vitriol directed at Kamala Harris is the most mystifying. sop Jan 2024 #25
Just my opinion. moreland01 Jan 2024 #26

Walleye

(31,022 posts)
1. That is why when Hillary was defeated, I was convinced they would never be a woman as president in my lifetime
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:17 AM
Jan 2024

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
4. I agree. In many ways, we are still a patriarchal country.
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:28 AM
Jan 2024

Women have had to fight for their rights since the country was founded, and once again they are being taken away by men threatened by women’s economic independence and refusal to be the doormats that many men and some women (i.e., Republicans) want.

czarjak

(11,277 posts)
5. Hillary was cheated.
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:31 AM
Jan 2024

Not defeated legitimately. Kevin McCarthy admitted as much. Vlad watched W & His Brain "win" The Electoral College. Vlad listens. Everybody knows that except MAGA.

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
6. In 2016 Salon was on the cutting edge of "Not That Woman" politics
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:42 AM
Jan 2024

when it came to voting for Hillary Clinton.

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
7. so were a lot of those on the left.....
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jan 2024

Can't go into details without violating board tos, but many will understad. The bros are still out there.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
3. Hailey's a racist piece of lying shit, I would pardon tRump, and push for women to not ....
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:26 AM
Jan 2024

have abortions post 15 weeks beyotch who changed her name to appear more white mouth to say that this country's NOT racist McCain & Hailey are both pieces of shit .

Walleye

(31,022 posts)
9. I can't really understand why any woman would be a Republican, I mean McCain and Cheney inherited it but still
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:57 AM
Jan 2024

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
10. the 15 week bit is really flexible with her...
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 10:57 AM
Jan 2024

She has said in the past she would be fine with a much shorter limit, and probably none at all.

She would quickly shift to supportig all out bans once in power.

dutch777

(3,019 posts)
13. And she is not only a woman but she is a person of color as well. Don't see many Repugs embracing either naturally.
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jan 2024

Maybe if they have no choice between a Repug woman or person of color and a Joe Biden, but in a field of white men in a primary, the old prejudices will win out. Sadly.

et tu

(860 posts)
17. we are programmed
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 11:51 AM
Jan 2024

on day 1, it's a patriarchal system, insidious and little to no gender equality.
the power base does not give up power willingly, legislation needed~

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
18. Pretty clear
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 11:52 AM
Jan 2024

that the MAGA repubs hate women & minorities. I have said for a long time that they need to be thoroughly defeated or they will never change. They have white hater voters and the rich. We all need to hang tough and vote for the Biden/Harris team. Then those who keep saying that Biden is too old (I don't) can focus on 2028.

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
20. She is an evil pos like Nikki Haley!
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 12:26 PM
Jan 2024

Who cares what she says! She destroyed her reputation in the real world and is now is getting attention by trolling.

I gave up the View when she was on it and it’s so much more enjoyable to watch!

Squaredeal

(398 posts)
21. In the 2008 primaries, my wife wanted Clinton. I wanted Obama.
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 12:31 PM
Jan 2024

I said to her that I felt that the country would elect a black man over any woman. It’s just the way it is. She changed her support from Hillary to Barack.
The 2016 election confirmed this. An obvious, articulate and experience woman is defeated by a reprehensible joke of a man, who everyone instinctively knew beforehand would screw up the country totally.

Ray Bruns

(4,097 posts)
22. McCain insisted it's a mystery why "I have a very strong adverse reaction to her."
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 12:37 PM
Jan 2024

Oh, I think we all know the reason why.

sop

(10,177 posts)
25. Of all the preposterous BS Republicans concoct, the vitriol directed at Kamala Harris is the most mystifying.
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 01:11 PM
Jan 2024

I realize their attacks are purely motivated by racism and misogyny; the prospect of a black woman as president scares the shit out of them. Still, such over-the-top invective normally requires some sort of factual basis, however tenuous. But, seriously, what has Kamala Harris ever done?

The relentless attacks on Hunter Biden are laughably nonsensical, but at least they're somewhat understandable. Hunter's past drug use, ongoing legal problems and social media antics haven't helped his cause. And, let's face it, Bill Clinton's personal scandals were largely self-inflicted, he had no one to blame but himself.

This crazy stuff about Harris is straight out of the Hillary playbook. Republicans began bashing Clinton during her husband's first campaign, and it escalated when she became First Lady and got involved in healthcare policy. And all the crap Michelle Obama had to put up with for simply taking an interest in kids' school lunches? I mean, WTF?

moreland01

(739 posts)
26. Just my opinion.
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 01:25 PM
Jan 2024

I had so much respect for Madeleine Albright and Hillary Clinton because of the seemingly unlimited depth of their foreign policy chops. Every time they spoke/speak I was all ears and I ALWAYS learned something. The level of shear, unadulterated impressiveness is at the same time both what we absolutely need in world leaders and the most intimidating thing to even moderate voters (as evidenced by the 2016 election).

I'm so tired of the "If you're going to be a successful woman in politics, you have to be X" tropes.

Kamala Harris is successful because she's smart, educated, strategic, focused, etc. The world seems to dislike all of those attributes when it's from a female. But I can't say that I learn something from her when she speaks. I can't say I'm all ears and eager to hear her perspective on world affairs. Her responses always come out canned, planned and political. I know she's very intelligent and probably could go toe to toe with Hillary on any topic, but she doesn't let herself. I can't begin to put myself in her shoes and know what hurdles and ramifications she sees before she responds to questions, so I give her the benefit of the doubt. But I would so love to see her unshackled and able to speak her mind without fear of reprisals.

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