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FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 01:34 PM Dec 2023

Today's Tiedrich rant: what the fuck does The New York Times think it's doing?



Link: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/what-the-fuck-does-the-new-york-times

is The New York Times in the tank for Little Donny Fuckface? do they want him to win? it’s a legit question, because their reporting of the news sure makes it appear that they do.

the other day, the Times decided to check out this whole “Trump sure is sounding a fuck of lot like Hitler these days” thing, and — spoiler alert — they did it in the most tepid way possible. because of course they did. they’re The New York Times.

Screenshot:


look how the Times frames it: Donald Trump has always had a thing about “good genes.” that’s so adorable — he’s just another madcap eccentric with wacky ideas, right? much in the same way that Jeffrey Dahmer was into alternative food sources, and Genghis Khan took an avid interest in tourism.
- more at link -

Today's rant is short & sweet ... AND right on the money!

Thanks Jeff Tiedrich ... and Happy Holidays to everyone at DU!

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Today's Tiedrich rant: what the fuck does The New York Times think it's doing? (Original Post) FakeNoose Dec 2023 OP
Have they plugged Trump's saliva test into genealogy sites bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #1
suppose there's a couple of the black scots in there? mopinko Dec 2023 #3
My mom said bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #4
i have an ancestor whose escape from the highlanders mopinko Dec 2023 #5
Melanoma's name means "the dark one" (Melania). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #6
All of the fuckery came from his father's side. LudwigPastorius Dec 2023 #14
The M$M Has A Vested Interest In Close Elections modrepub Dec 2023 #2
Because eyeballs take precedence over truth and balance Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #8
I think the NYT is more than just about making $$ from close elections erronis Dec 2023 #9
Happy Holidays to you too, FakeNoose. LoisB Dec 2023 #7
NYT's Proven Track Record of Ignoring Stuff PTL_Mancuso Dec 2023 #10
Sent this yesterday to a friend. . . Mme. Defarge Dec 2023 #11
I strongly disagree with Tiedrich on this one. The NYT approach to exposing the obscene view Trump expressed Martin68 Dec 2023 #12
H3 needs to focus in a bit more on European aristocracy Warpy Dec 2023 #13
I hardly see that as a positive headline for Trump. oldsoftie Dec 2023 #15
They are trying to insure their place in the new Reich, should it come. hadEnuf Dec 2023 #16
We cancelled our membership in November LittleGirl Dec 2023 #17
"is The New York Times in the tank for Little Donny Fuckface?" Ray Bruns Dec 2023 #18
Trump's long fascination with genetics and hematology demonstrates his abiding love of science. sop Dec 2023 #19
WHY though? This doesn't "drum up ratings" it favors a Republican candidate. live love laugh Dec 2023 #20
I smell something. bad. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #21

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
1. Have they plugged Trump's saliva test into genealogy sites
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 01:37 PM
Dec 2023

to see which madmen he's related to?

Early populations didn't migrate much. Over many generations it was partly an inbred lot.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
3. suppose there's a couple of the black scots in there?
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 01:56 PM
Dec 2023

not black skin, just black hearts. deadly killers. w bag pipes.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
4. My mom said
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 02:08 PM
Dec 2023

slang for the Scottish brigades in WWII were the Fightin' Ladies, known for their ferociousness.

LudwigPastorius

(9,145 posts)
14. All of the fuckery came from his father's side.
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:57 PM
Dec 2023

His grandaddy thrown out of Bavaria for being a draft dodger... then running a brothel in Alaska...

His dad engaging in Klan riots... profiteering and discriminating in his real estate business...

Please don't blame the Scots for Trump. They hate him.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
2. The M$M Has A Vested Interest In Close Elections
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 01:53 PM
Dec 2023

Close elections = BIG TIME CAMPAIGN SPENDING!

Corollary: Don't piss the people off who you want to advertise with you.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
8. Because eyeballs take precedence over truth and balance
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 02:27 PM
Dec 2023

The more eyeballs the more ad dollars. It is not a directive memo sent down from the top, but everyone there knows it.

Truth and balance does not mean normalizing extremism. When truth is tilted against lunatics and authoritarians, you put them on a thin beam way out on the right extremes and give them only a little time and space in the media. The long beam balances the rationalistic center and left which being larger are positioned closer to the center for more coverage and balance. Note that left wing lunatics like that DEI woman who calls herself a rape counselor and says "believe the women", but also denies Hamas Oct7 rapes -- lunatics like her should get shoved out way out and given the minimal time/space to be dealt with.

When they are dangerous enough to merit closer and bigger attention (tRump), then soft-peddling their extremism is not smart.

erronis

(15,257 posts)
9. I think the NYT is more than just about making $$ from close elections
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 02:28 PM
Dec 2023

They have been very slanted in their coverage of trump. A few articles/opinions every now and then that are good and critical, but the overwhelming amount is underwhelming it their analyses. Both-siderism is rampant at the old grey lady.

 

PTL_Mancuso

(276 posts)
10. NYT's Proven Track Record of Ignoring Stuff
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:10 PM
Dec 2023

The NYT is great. It has smart folks and nice articles and recipes and classy art coverage BUT I would advise against trusting them to report with integrity and balance on some areas. To wit:

How the NYT Missed the Story of the Holocaust While It Was Happening
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/10903

Mme. Defarge

(8,029 posts)
11. Sent this yesterday to a friend. . .
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:39 PM
Dec 2023

Another day, another Biden bashing NYT headline - “Democrats in Key States Worry Biden Could Be a Drag on Their Races”.

Really? Seriously? Is their goal to avoid being executed as enemies of the state in a Trump dictatorship?

Martin68

(22,801 posts)
12. I strongly disagree with Tiedrich on this one. The NYT approach to exposing the obscene view Trump expressed
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:45 PM
Dec 2023

is a far more powerful way to put his fascist views on record than some hysterical expression of outrage such as those expressed every day in the right wing media. No educated person could fail to understand the significance of an obsession with “good genes” at a time when both the NYT and the Washington Post have thoroughly exposed the historical Eugenics movement in the United States that resulted in policies such as sterilization of minorities and the intellectually challenged, and influenced Nazi philosophy.

The actual article includes the following:

“...As with the speech in 2020, Mr. Trump’s remarks have been criticized by historians, Jewish groups and liberals, who said his language recalled the ideology of eugenics promulgated by Nazis in Germany and white supremacists in America...He once asked his White House chief of staff why he lacked generals like those who reported to Hitler, calling those military leaders “totally loyal” to the Nazi dictator, according to a book on the Trump presidency by Peter Baker, a New York Times reporter, and Susan Glasser...On another occasion, he told the same aide that “well, Hitler did a lot of good things,” according to Michael C. Bender, a journalist who is now a New York Times reporter, in a 2021 book about Mr. Trump.”

There is nothing “tepid” in that characterization unless you feel that calm objective discourse is not persuasive.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
13. H3 needs to focus in a bit more on European aristocracy
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 03:57 PM
Dec 2023

People are not race horses and treating "bloodlines" as something special leads to disaster. Inbreeding is a particularly bad idea for human beings.

And race hyorses are now suffering the effects of inbreeding along "champion bloodlines." That thinking is just a bad idea across the board.

Men who were born rich always want to think they're special. Give them a few generations, the hidden flaws will surface and their superior bloodline will fizzle out completely if they try to pursue the idea.

hadEnuf

(2,190 posts)
16. They are trying to insure their place in the new Reich, should it come.
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 12:34 AM
Dec 2023

Don't want to piss off the potential new Fuhrer too much.

sop

(10,177 posts)
19. Trump's long fascination with genetics and hematology demonstrates his abiding love of science.
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 09:24 AM
Dec 2023

He kept copies of Gregor Mendel's 'The Laws of Genetics' and William Hewson's 'An Experimental Inquiry Into the Properties of the Blood' on his night table.

live love laugh

(13,109 posts)
20. WHY though? This doesn't "drum up ratings" it favors a Republican candidate.
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 10:33 AM
Dec 2023

It’s what Musk does and what Suckaberg does with their platforms.

The NYT and the majority of media are conglomerates ultimately owned by Republicans.

If we can’t unravel the laws that allowed media consolidation at least we should at least be able to get transparency of ownership which is sorely lacking.

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