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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 09:50 AM Nov 2023

The insidious rise of "tradwives": A right-wing fantasy is rotting young men's minds


The insidious rise of "tradwives": A right-wing fantasy is rotting young men's minds
There's serious money in peddling fantasies of female submission online, but it may be exacerbating male loneliness

By AMANDA MARCOTTE
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 27, 2023 6:00AM (EST)


(Salon) If the average American were asked what they imagine the priorities of the feminist movement are these days, most people would likely cite concerns like "fighting abortion bans" or "getting justice for sexual violence victims" or boring mainstays like "equal pay for equal work." But if you listen in to the world of right-wing social media influencers, they have a different answer. To them, feminists are single-mindedly obsessed with destroying women who identify as "tradwives."

....(snip)....

"Tradwife" is internet slang for "traditional wife." It's largely a social media trend of conventionally attractive white women putting out TikToks and videos gushing about the joys of submissive marriage and "modesty," though notably this "modest" clothing often leaves little to the imagination.

It's a neat marketing trick from tradwives to position themselves as a dangerous threat that feminists are desperate to take out. It helps sell the central, lucrative fantasy to credulous audiences: That female submission is a woman's natural desire, one that's being stolen from them by sinister feminist forces. And that you, male viewer, would be gifted with a compliant helpmeet of your very own, if not for those dastardly feminists. But these brave women of YouTube, with their picture-perfect make-up and slender-but-curvy physiques, will stand up to those bitches and restore your birthright: A smoking hot 22-year-old housewife who never talks back, never gets tired, never says "no," and never gains weight, no matter how many children she has.

By feeding conservative audiences a largely imaginary war with feminists, the tradwives are also pulling off another sleight of hand: distracting from how their content preys upon men, especially young men, by selling them a silly fantasy as reality. In the process, they're contributing to the male loneliness epidemic, by discouraging young men from developing the skills and mindset they need to get a real girlfriend, instead of just subsisting on a steady stream of social media delusions. .............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2023/11/27/the-insidious-rise-of-tradwives-a-right-wing-fantasy-is-rotting-young-mens-minds/




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The insidious rise of "tradwives": A right-wing fantasy is rotting young men's minds (Original Post) marmar Nov 2023 OP
Grooming, aka brainwashing: Trust me; believe me; everyone else is lying to you. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2023 #1
The irony is that if these dudes hooked up with their dream gal... Girard442 Nov 2023 #2
And you have to BE a real person. niyad Nov 2023 #6
Most definitely lonely bird Nov 2023 #11
A golden retriever sounds good IronLionZion Nov 2023 #13
WHY? ? ? niyad Nov 2023 #14
Enthusiastic, joyous, playful approach to life IronLionZion Nov 2023 #15
Just another name for the class of women who want to have the same benefits as a "trophy wife" LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #3
Amala Ekpunobi...ugh...playing anti woman and anti Black for likes Demovictory9 Nov 2023 #4
Women, brainwashed or not slightlv Nov 2023 #5
My non-trad wife of 57 years . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 2023 #7
I think fake female bots are seeding the idea in social media bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #8
Driving back to the Bay Area from Phoenix yesterday kimbutgar Nov 2023 #9
So many of them are hopeless FakeNoose Nov 2023 #18
Exactly kimbutgar Nov 2023 #19
I've always wondered how many great and helpful... chouchou Nov 2023 #10
the usual practice is for some man to steal the idea. mopinko Nov 2023 #12
What a joke. Simple minded, smokin hot 22 year old, fast forward a few decades, and the Ziggysmom Nov 2023 #16
In addition to "rotting minds" it could be laying the groundwork for new conservative "promises" ... Auggie Nov 2023 #17

Girard442

(6,072 posts)
2. The irony is that if these dudes hooked up with their dream gal...
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 10:48 AM
Nov 2023

...basically a golden retriever with boobs, they'd be astonished to find how fast that got really old.

To have a real relationship, you need a real person.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
13. A golden retriever sounds good
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:29 PM
Nov 2023


I've seen women describe themselves as golden retrievers on dating sites

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
15. Enthusiastic, joyous, playful approach to life
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:40 PM
Nov 2023

Golden retrievers are so lovable. They're among the most popular pets.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
3. Just another name for the class of women who want to have the same benefits as a "trophy wife"
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 11:12 AM
Nov 2023

No 9 to 5 grind for all those clothes and nice car. No having to get up early on the morning except to make sure the coffee maker is working for him. Just trying to be a teenage girl with no responsibilities in life except to be a nice trophy wife to a car mechanic.

hmm. yea sure..

slightlv

(2,801 posts)
5. Women, brainwashed or not
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 11:30 AM
Nov 2023

Are the worst enemies of our own gender sometimes.

These tradwives are going to be in hurtsville when their 'Master' determines all this has given them too much exposure and too much power. They aren't suppose to have power, let alone wield it. It will be turned back on them at some point. I hope they realize this is what happens all too often with "collaborators." But I doubt it will wake them up. Too bad we know what will happen after they pump out a few of those babies in a few short years. Youthful figure? Ha!

AverageOldGuy

(1,525 posts)
7. My non-trad wife of 57 years . . .
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 11:56 AM
Nov 2023

. . . took one look at this article and uttered some comments not usually heard in mixed company.

Ditto for my daughter who is a single lady of a certain age and is perfectly happy with her life.

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
9. Driving back to the Bay Area from Phoenix yesterday
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:22 PM
Nov 2023

Saw a guy in a big truck with a stencil on his truck that said Tradwives only allowed. He looked like an incel and had extremely dirty hands and an ugly beard shabby beard. We were stuck in traffic in Ojai and I couldn’t help watching him for awhile luckily he saw I was an older woman and looked away.

I wondered what a tradwife was now I know. And if I was a young single woman I wouldn’t want to have anything to do with him. Maybe a desperate woman but not a smart one!

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
18. So many of them are hopeless
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 02:04 PM
Nov 2023

No wonder they're single and lonely.

Simple cleanliness and grooming, along with a cheerful personality, go a long way.

chouchou

(628 posts)
10. I've always wondered how many great and helpful...
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:22 PM
Nov 2023

..scientific discoveries have been lost, simply because (in the past), half of the population were stuck
in an environment that women might not want to be in.
True, a share of women have made some discoveries in medicine and science, but it could have been
WAY more. History could have a page like>>>>
"In 1957, Amanda Briggs and her team discovered the sequence of Amino acids which had a new class of 20 molecules that combined to form the basis of the wonderful flu vaccine."
YES..Amanda and her team helped millions of citizens, regarding the common flu and cold.
(Don't trash me for not being solid terms...I'm a dietitian )

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
12. the usual practice is for some man to steal the idea.
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:29 PM
Nov 2023

presuming she got far enough to prove it.
but u r right. so much of humanity’s promise just left behind.

Ziggysmom

(3,407 posts)
16. What a joke. Simple minded, smokin hot 22 year old, fast forward a few decades, and the
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:49 PM
Nov 2023

husband leaves her for a younger tradwife. She has wasted her life and has no skills or job experience, other than being a slave-like kept woman. But she was following the Bible!!

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
17. In addition to "rotting minds" it could be laying the groundwork for new conservative "promises" ...
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:55 PM
Nov 2023

... a return to "traditional family values" (wink, wink), for example. This is ripe for exploitation by right-wing think tanks.

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