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Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:02 PM Nov 2023

Spain summons Israel's ambassador to demand clarification on Premier Netanyahu's allegations



Spain-Israel diplomatic row began on Thursday when Spanish Prime Minister Sanchez during visit to Rafah border crossing called situation in Gaza 'humanitarian catastrophe'

(snip)

The Spanish Foreign Ministry summoned Israel's Ambassador Rodica Radian-Gordon to seek clarification on Netanyahu's accusations.

The diplomatic row between Spain and Israel began on Thursday when Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez traveled to Israel and Palestine to meet with his counterparts.

During a visit to the Rafah border crossing with Belgian Prime Minister Alexander de Croo on Friday, Sanchez criticized Israel's response to the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks, calling the situation in Gaza a "humanitarian catastrophe," and urging Israel to "respect civilian lives at all costs."

He also said Madrid is open to unilaterally recognizing a Palestinian state, even if it goes against the European Union's wishes.

(snip)

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/spain-summons-israels-ambassador-to-demand-clarification-on-premier-netanyahus-allegations/3064609


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Spain summons Israel's ambassador to demand clarification on Premier Netanyahu's allegations (Original Post) Uncle Joe Nov 2023 OP
Excellent elleng Nov 2023 #1
netanyahu 'alleged' that Spain supports terrorism... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #2
That source is a right wing, state-run Turkish "news" agency. lapucelle Nov 2023 #5
A rightwing news source... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #7
Erdogan is explicitly pro-Hamas. lapucelle Nov 2023 #13
Erdogan is pro-Hamas. His propaganda agency has no place here. lapucelle Nov 2023 #15
What were they doing in Gaza as the hostages were being released? Trying to sabotage question everything Nov 2023 #3
And what is right wing, Turkish state media doing here? lapucelle Nov 2023 #6
That makes sense since netanyahu is ultra-rightwing. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #8
No it doesn't. And besides, state run, right wing media sources are highly problematic, lapucelle Nov 2023 #10
Yeah, but I suspect it's rightwing netanyahu's preference. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #12
Why you do think that? Erdogan is pro-Hamas. lapucelle Nov 2023 #14
Because both the news source and netanyahu are rightwing. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #17
The state run propaganda site is controlled by a right wing, authoritarian pro-Hamas autocrat, lapucelle Nov 2023 #19
aaaaannnnnd..... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #20
Yes, well, at this point it's time to sea below. lapucelle Nov 2023 #21
oh, time to try... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #22
The article states:... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #9
"Turkey's Leader, Lashing Out at Israel, Defends Hamas" lapucelle Nov 2023 #11
Are you saying... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #16
Did you mean to type "Netanyahu"? lapucelle Nov 2023 #23
Nope... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #24
"respect civilian lives at all costs" Pope on a Rope Nov 2023 #4
Did you mean to write "Humane"? Think. Again. Nov 2023 #18

Think. Again.

(8,133 posts)
2. netanyahu 'alleged' that Spain supports terrorism...
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:29 PM
Nov 2023

...as his reaction to the ambassador defining the conditions in Gaza a "Humanitarian catastrophe".

Mind-boggling.

Think. Again.

(8,133 posts)
7. A rightwing news source...
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 03:47 PM
Nov 2023

...reporting something so negative about ultra-rightwing netanyahu?

Even more mind-bogglng!

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
13. Erdogan is explicitly pro-Hamas.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 04:58 PM
Nov 2023
Erdogan supports Hamas.

The state-run, propaganda arm of his authoritarian regime has no place here.

Turkey’s Leader, Lashing Out at Israel, Defends Hamas

“Hamas is not a terror organization,” he said. “It is an organization of liberation, of mujahedeen, who fight to protect their land and citizens.”

snip================================

Mr. Erdogan has also maintained ties to Hamas. Members of the group often spend time in Turkey, and many of its leaders were in Turkey for meetings when the Hamas attack on Israel took place on Oct. 7.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/world/middleeast/erdogan-turkey-hamas-israel.html

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
15. Erdogan is pro-Hamas. His propaganda agency has no place here.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:02 PM
Nov 2023
Turkey’s Leader, Lashing Out at Israel, Defends Hamas

In a speech in Parliament, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey accused Israel of committing “massacres” in Gaza and said Hamas was fighting for “liberation.”

“Hamas is not a terror organization,” he said. “It is an organization of liberation, of mujahedeen, who fight to protect their land and citizens.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/world/middleeast/erdogan-turkey-hamas-israel.html

question everything

(47,479 posts)
3. What were they doing in Gaza as the hostages were being released? Trying to sabotage
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:45 PM
Nov 2023

the deal?

Time to complete the 1492 expulsion of Jews from Spain? Perhaps renew the Inquisition?

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
10. No it doesn't. And besides, state run, right wing media sources are highly problematic,
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 04:20 PM
Nov 2023

especially when reliable sources are available.

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
19. The state run propaganda site is controlled by a right wing, authoritarian pro-Hamas autocrat,
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:47 PM
Nov 2023

and Hamas is run by right wing, theocratic terrorist autocrats. Erdogan and Hamas are right wing allies.

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Here's how WaPo reported the story via AP.

Israel summons Spanish, Belgian ambassadors following criticism during visit to Rafah[/b]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/24/spain-belgium-palestine-state-israel-ambassadors/43ca6f70-8af1-11ee-a36e-fdb7be9bd43d_story.html

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People are free, however, to seek out dodgy, right wing, state-run sources if they choose. They can even engage in tortured reasoning in an attempt to defend those sources.

But who benefits from amplifying these sources of "news"?

Cui bono?








Think. Again.

(8,133 posts)
20. aaaaannnnnd.....
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:50 PM
Nov 2023

netanyahu is ultra-rightwing too.

So, we really can't get away from rightwing BS with this whole mess.

Think. Again.

(8,133 posts)
9. The article states:...
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 04:13 PM
Nov 2023

"Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez traveled to Israel and Palestine to meet with his counterparts."

It's good to see so many nation-leaders showing concern for this situation.

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
11. "Turkey's Leader, Lashing Out at Israel, Defends Hamas"
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 04:34 PM
Nov 2023
Sorry, but I'm not buying whatever it is that right wing Turkish state media is trying to sell.

Turkey’s Leader, Lashing Out at Israel, Defends Hamas[

In a speech in Parliament, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey accused Israel of committing “massacres” in Gaza and said Hamas was fighting for “liberation.”

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey lashed out at Israel and defended Hamas during a televised address on Wednesday, taking positions likely to increase tensions between his government and those of other NATO members, including the United States.

snip=====================================================

Mr. Erdogan also criticized Western countries for their strong backing of Israel and for branding Hamas, the armed Palestinian group that controls Gaza, as a terrorist organization.

“Hamas is not a terror organization,” he said. “It is an organization of liberation, of mujahedeen, who fight to protect their land and citizens.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/world/middleeast/erdogan-turkey-hamas-israel.html

Think. Again.

(8,133 posts)
16. Are you saying...
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:04 PM
Nov 2023

...you don't "buy" that netanyahu accused Spain of supporting "terrorism", or than Sanchez called the situation in Gaza a "humanitarian catastrophe"?

Or none of it? Like neither thing actually happened?

On edit:

Oh wait, do you mean you don't believe...

"Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez traveled to Israel and Palestine to meet with his counterparts." ?


Think. Again.

(8,133 posts)
24. Nope...
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 06:08 PM
Nov 2023

I consider capitalization a form of respect.

You might notice I withold capitalization on certain names and titles, such as 'hamas', and 'trump'.

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