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Sat Oct 28, 2023, 06:15 PM Oct 2023

How to Avoid a Presidential Succession Nightmare - by Jean Parvin Bordewich and Roy E. Brownell II

The ousting of Kevin McCarthy as speaker threw the House into turmoil for weeks, and the situation would have been more chaotic if it weren’t for a little-known rule adopted 20 years ago that put Rep. Patrick McHenry in the chair temporarily. That rule is inadequate, however, as it limits the speaker pro tempore to mostly ceremonial functions. The rule reflects a broader problem of poor succession planning in the U.S. government that extends to the White House. The current system for ensuring continuity in the U.S. presidency has gaping holes that could create political instability in a national emergency. Solving these problems doesn’t require a constitutional amendment; Congress can do it with new legislation.

Under the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, if the U.S. president and vice president both die, become incapacitated or otherwise leave office, the House speaker is next in the line of succession, followed by the Senate president pro tempore, then the cabinet secretaries, starting with the secretary of state. But a closer examination of this plan reveals lurking dangers.

The current system is flawed in several ways, but four stand out. The first problem is that lawmakers are in the line of presidential succession, which could create a political crisis if a speaker from one party replaced a president of the other. Republican Speaker Mike Johnson could replace Democratic President Joe Biden. One can imagine the outcry and the challenges to presidential legitimacy that could arise. Scholars have also long been split on the constitutionality of lawmakers’ succeeding to the presidency. Except for succession involving a president-elect and vice president-elect—which has a different constitutional basis—legislators should be removed from the line of succession and replaced with cabinet secretaries to eliminate concerns over the constitutional separation of powers and to ensure party continuity in the White House.

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Terrorist attacks, the pandemic and growing threats against elected officials have shown that situations that once seemed unimaginable are now possible. Reforming the presidential succession process should be a nonpartisan issue. The Biden administration could deflect attacks on the president’s age by showing that it doesn’t fear addressing vacancy or temporary incapacitation. Republicans could show statesmanship by supporting legislation that would remove a GOP speaker from the usual line of succession.

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Ms. Bordewich is a former member of Sen. Chuck Schumer’s staff and staff director of the Senate Rules Committee. Mr. Brownell is a former deputy chief of staff for Sen. Mitch McConnell. Both were members of the second Continuity of Government Commission.



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How to Avoid a Presidential Succession Nightmare - by Jean Parvin Bordewich and Roy E. Brownell II (Original Post) question everything Oct 2023 OP
I was concerned about something like that Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #1
It's a rather recent concern. Igel Oct 2023 #3
The rap against that plan is that the Presidential cabinet marybourg Oct 2023 #2
And yet, one of them is the Designated Survivor during the State of the Union address question everything Oct 2023 #4
The President has only the authority to appoint someone from the Executive branch. marybourg Oct 2023 #5

Uncle Joe

(58,438 posts)
1. I was concerned about something like that
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 06:37 PM
Oct 2023

when President Biden went into a war zone with no house Speaker in line and Fascists that waged/are waging an insurrection against the U.S. Government in control of the Republican Party.

Thanks for the thread question everything

Igel

(35,359 posts)
3. It's a rather recent concern.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 08:20 PM
Oct 2023

A few (R) I knew didn't like that Pelosi was in line, but it wasn't a "federal case" and, you know, no mainstream newspaper or news channel platformed the view. (How strange that it's the WSJ. But their news and editorial depts. diverge.)

And yields the result that we'd rather an unelected presidential appt. with concurrence of a majority of 1/2 of the legislature as president.

Not that presidents ever appoint anybody with a partisan tilt--what's to be avoided, by all assurances.

marybourg

(12,639 posts)
2. The rap against that plan is that the Presidential cabinet
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 08:08 PM
Oct 2023

is composed of people who were never elected to anything by anyone. Presidential cronies and hacks they were frequently called in the forties, before the Presidential Succession Act. Can you imagine the cronies and hacks tRump could have appointed and then been replaced with if he knew he was going to step down, instead of Nancy Pelosi?

question everything

(47,539 posts)
4. And yet, one of them is the Designated Survivor during the State of the Union address
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 02:25 PM
Oct 2023

The question, I suppose, is once someone becomes the President, what next?

marybourg

(12,639 posts)
5. The President has only the authority to appoint someone from the Executive branch.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 03:22 PM
Oct 2023

He has no authority to appoint, for example, a Senator or Representative to be his designated survivor.

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