Let's count the reasons Democrats have no business helping the House GOP elect a speaker
Its not worth debating the daily drivel from former Speaker Kevin McCarthy that his sacking three weeks ago, and Republicans' failure to unite behind a successor, is Democrats fault that Democrats, by voting with a minority of Republicans first against McCarthy and then against seditionist Rep. Jim Jordan, are to blame for the Houses ongoing paralysis.
Just ask yourself: If a Democrat had moved to unseat McCarthys predecessor, Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, would McCarthy and other Republicans have voted to keep his fellow Californian in the job?
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That brings us back to the question of why Democrats didnt help McCarthy, if only to avoid ending up with a worse speaker (as Jordans candidacy threatened). For starters, McCarthy refused just hours before his defenestration to bargain with Democrats.
Not only did he not offer Democrats anything he gave them more than ample reason to oppose him. Two days before the Republican motion to unseat him, McCarthy enraged Democrats by falsely claiming on CBS Face the Nation that theyd tried to block his stopgap government-funding compromise that averted a federal shutdown. In fact, Democrats had merely sought a few hours to read the bill justifiably not trusting McCarthys description of it and then provided more votes than Republicans did to pass the measure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/calmes-lets-count-reasons-democrats-220217348.html
RockRaven
(15,016 posts)kick one out. There is no mechanism for Dems alone holding such a Speaker accountable for breaking promises or violating agreements once they are in place.
The inverse, however, would not be true. If a handful of Rs helped put a Dem Speaker in, that person would only remain Speaker as long as that handful stayed satisfied, because all together the Rs have the votes to remove them.
TomSlick
(11,110 posts)It's the Republican's circus and they need to buy the monkey.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)calimary
(81,519 posts)As a Call to Action email "ask" the my Indivisible group issues every week. Only problem is: it's only Tuesday. A LOT can change between now and when we start writing (Thursday or Friday). I have to watch and see what happens through the rest of the week.
I had that experience just last week. Was all fired up to get my thoughts organized and in writing for an ask. Did so - last Thursday. Hell, by the time it came time to put the new week's asks together, I wound up having to rewrite the whole thing.
enough
(13,262 posts)lees1975
(3,887 posts)As much as they've tried to hide it, there are more than enough Republicans who see in this speakerless house their chance at holding on to their seat wane with each passing day. The chaos, some of which has apparently descended into screaming, name calling, cursing and violence in GOP caucus meetings, is getting worse, not better. At some point, it will be prime time for Democrats to extend an offer that will get the house back in order and end all of the ridiculous shenanigans going on, silencing and neutralizing the trouble makers in the face of reason. That moment will come and when it does, Democrats need to make sure that they get everything they put on the table, including the end of the debt ceiling hostage taking, the end of the ridiculous impeachment hearings, the end of the waste of time weaponization of the Justice department hearings and a speaker who understands how government works.
It'll happen. Just be patient and wait for the right moment.