House in limbo as Jordan continues speaker bid despite stiff GOP resistance

[Dulcinea]

CNN— The House remains paralyzed with no end in sight to the Republican leadership crisis as GOP Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio continues his bid for speaker despite facing stiff resistance.

The Ohio Republican, who has made a name for himself as a hardline conservative agitator, has so far vowed to stay in the race despite two failed votes for the gavel. The House could hold a third vote for speaker as soon as Thursday afternoon, though no vote has been officially scheduled yet.

Tensions are rising among House Republicans as pressure grows to find a way to resolve the standoff. In a sign of growing opposition to his candidacy, Jordan fared worse in a second round of voting on Wednesday than he had in the first vote a day earlier.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/jim-jordan-speakers-race/index.html

[gab13by13]

1. Everything is going according to Trump's plan

He wants a shutdown, he wants chaos, and Jordan is working for that whether he becomes Speaker or whether he does not.

199 House Magats voted for a leader of the insurrection, they don't give a rat's ass whether they get a Speaker or not.
The MSM pushes the narrative that the Magat House is dysfunctional, no it is not, that is the plan, chaos.

[Zambero]

2. So how does the bipartisan "problem solver's" caucus fit into thus scenario?

They could propose a more mainstream conservative nominee that would conceivably get enough votes from either side of the aisle to end the stalemate. Whether or not this ever comes to pass is anyone's guess. I agree with your chaos motive. Jordan is a Trump surrogate who would burn the country down if given the opportunity. It seems as if he is angling to do just that, whether he gets the gavel or not. On the other hand, I don't believe that a majority of House members ascribe to his brand of radicalism.

[gab13by13]

3. If Jordan loses again today,

I look for House Magats to move to give bow tie boy the power of Speaker until Jan. 2024. The problem with that is, will House Magats work with Democrats to limit bow tie boy's authority? Democrats will never give him a blank check to carry on as if he really was an elected Speaker. House Magats can then claim that it is Democrats fault not to allow bow tie boy to be Speaker. Bow tie boy is no moderate, he is as far right as they come.

House Magats are going to have to give concessions to Democrats, I'm not so sure there are enough willing Magats to do that.

[Fritz Walter]

30. Whose plan?

While Mango Mussolini’s fingerprints are all over this scheme, the brains behind this plan reside in the Kremlin. Vladdy Daddy is pulling this puppet’s strings!

[PortTack]

36. Nailed it!

[LymphocyteLover]

4. Does Jordan control whether they have a vote for speaker? This whole thing is insane

[azureblue]

9. wearing them down

is Jim's plan. Just repeating the vote until everyone gives up out of fatigue and desperation. But that won't work, because the House Dems are united, and their choice keeps getting more votes than Jim. In a more normal situation, we would have a Dem Speaker by now. Maybe the Dem side will push for a rule change to majority vote. Or maybe some Repubs will vote for Hakeem, just to break the log jam and spite Jim and the MAGATs.

Jim has created a lot of resentment on his side of the aisle, burned a few bridges with his threats and intimidation, and I don't think Repubs are going to switch their votes to make him speaker. They know what an AH he is and i bet a few would vote fro Hakeem just to spite Jim. And few votes is all Hakeem needs.

[Rebl2]

13. I don't think so

He isn’t the speaker.

[Mr. Sparkle]

5. This is going to get messy, right wingers always hold on until the bitter end

and there is a big history of Gop moderates caving to extremists on the far right.

[azureblue]

10. it already is a mess

And Jim created it. The GOP is in implosion mode right now - that much is evident. I seriously doubt they will be able to re- group.

[cutroot]

6. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. -Albert Einstein

[usonian]

12. I'll refute that later, in an extended post.

It's a quantum universe, and Albert hated the uncertainty aspect. But it is true when the probability of success is infinitesimal.

Later.

[GreenWave]

37. Uni-verse? So it has been decided there is only one?

125 years ago the Milky Way was perceived as all there was.

[usonian]

38. Ours is!

I haven't been to others, ( that this copy of me knows about) or perhaps I am in all (infinity) of them right now. Lucky, they are.

Check out Feynman's path integral.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_integral_formulation

Very cool.

The path integral formulation is a description in quantum mechanics that generalizes the action principle of classical mechanics. It replaces the classical notion of a single, unique classical trajectory for a system with a sum, or functional integral, over an infinity of quantum-mechanically possible trajectories to compute a quantum amplitude.

Extrapolating, this universe might be the only one of countless near-copies that "works" so it exists. Just my take on it. The others flunked math.

Now, you can get Feynman Path Integrals on EBay!



Or read a paper (PDF)
https://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~suzuki/QM_Graduate/Feynman_path_integral.pdf

[LuvLoogie]

7. Leadership isn't their problem.

It's their whole premise.

[JohnSJ]

8. ..........................

[AllaN01Bear]

11. they hve confessed attacks on ss for years , so what else is new.

[Aviation Pro]

14. All it would take is five, little votes

From the Cult side to vote for Hakeem Jefferies and end this charade.

[Parzival72]

15. I hope it drags on through 2024

GOP incompetence on display

[NCIndie]

16. Apparently, Jordan is NOT going forward

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/19/house-speaker-vote-live/|

[SunSeeker]

27. Old news. Now GymBo is calling for a 3rd vote for himself today.

Jordan said this afternoon that he plans to call for a third vote on the floor today to see if he can finally reach the 217 votes needed to be elected speaker.

As he passed reporters asking whether members would go to the floor for a third vote today, Jordan said, "That's the plan."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/house-speaker-vote-live-updates-rudderless-house-enters-15th-day-speak-rcna121146#rcrd22246

[NCIndie]

32. My god. The man is shameless (surprise!) n/t

[bucolic_frolic]

17. As long as they pass spending bills to prevent default, I don't care if they run out the clock on this GOP Congress

[Initech]

18. There is an easy solution to this: Stop electing candidates recommended by talk show hosts!

Right now our government is not "for the people". It's for the the talk show hosts. We need to get these people out of all levels of government now.

[Jimvanhise]

19. OUT OF DATE

Jordan has already withdrawn. Why has this not been corrected?

[SunSeeker]

25. As of noon EST, GymBo is now pushing a third vote after the temp-speaker deal fell through...

This clown show is a very fluid situation.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jim-jordan-temporary-house-speaker-plan_n_65314dade4b03b213b0920e5

[TeamProg]

20. Now moot.. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will not seek an additional speaker vote Thursday, and he will back a plan to give Rep. Patrick T. McHenry (R-N.C.), the temporary speaker, additional powers, acco

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will not seek an additional speaker vote Thursday, and he will back a plan to give Rep. Patrick T. McHenry (R-N.C.), the temporary speaker, additional powers, according to multiple people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the situation. After two rounds of votes, a group of Republicans had made it clear that Jordan did not have enough support to win the speaker’s gavel. With House functions at a standstill, lawmakers can now consider a proposal to expand McHenry’s powers.

[SunSeeker]

26. Not moot. That temp-speaker plan just fell through.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jim-jordan-temporary-house-speaker-plan_n_65314dade4b03b213b0920e5

[Crowman2009]

21. I'm looking forward to a Democratically-controlled house in which one round of voting will bring a new speaker.

And we can get back to business as usual. Just be sure to VOTE!

[bigmonk]

22. Err Jordan?

I can't be the first.

[LiberalFighter]

23. Why doesn't another Republican throw their hat in?

[NoMoreRepugs]

24. GymBo must be going innnnnsane behind closed doors.

[Iwasthere]

28. The death threats are ongoing

He will continue trying. 6 Sane repubs can stop the madness. Come on guys, think of Ukraine, Israel (the children), our debt. Most importantly, tamp down the extreme maga idiots in your party. VOTE FOR HAKEEM JEFFRIES

[Baltimike]

29. It just goes to show that "No means no" and they can't take it. nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. McCarthy evidently yelled at Gaetz

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[iluvtennis]

33. MSNBC reported (around 5pm EDT) that Jordan said there will be a 3rd vote this evening. n/t

[Rebl2]

35. Just in

time to interfere with President Biden’s speech

[Hermit-The-Prog]

34. Is there a chart showing what Nancy and Dems did vs. *this* "Congress"?