Genuinely shocked they aired it': CNN interview cuts through pro-Israel propaganda on Gaza

[justaprogressive]

Palestinian human rights advocates and historians called an interview broadcast on CNN late Sunday a "must-watch" for anyone seeking the broader context for the violence that erupted over the weekend, as Palestinian politician and advocate Dr. Mustafa Barghouti told anchor Fareed Zakaria that the surprise attack by Hamas followed decades of occupation and apartheid as well as the killings of thousands of Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces in recent years.

Zakaria introduced Barghouti by saying that the political leader of Hamas "has blamed the violence squarely on Israel's occupation of Palestinian land," adding Barghouti would provide "another Palestinian viewpoint" for viewers of "Fareed Zakaria GPS."

While condemning violence against civilians, Barghouti said the fighting has evolved as "the direct result of the continuation of the longest occupation in modern history" and used the same term accepted by the United Nations, thousands of academics, and international human rights experts—apartheid—to describe the system Palestinians have been forced to live under.

[link:https://www.alternet.org/palestine-human-rights/|

[The Magistrate]

1. Quite Cute Of the Man

The fact is, the leadership of Hamas made a conscious decision to embark on a campaign of atrocity. There really isn't anything else to say. No one cares why you commit atrocity, you decided to do it. You are responsible for that decision, and all consequences that can be reasonably expected to follow from it.

[UpInArms]

3. Maybe Rachel Corrie can tell you how "cute" it is

https://www.nationalturk.com/en/israel-cleared-itself-again-about-us-activist-piece-and-justice-martyr-rachel-corrie-death-24862/

[The Magistrate]

4. If You Think You Have a Point, Please Make It

[UpInArms]

6. I suppose you are going with the

“They started it, when they hit them back” theory?

Eta: I generally admire ALL of your posts, I just don’t understand your original post to this thread.

[The Magistrate]

7. Your Move Is Different From That How?

[UpInArms]

8. On this note

I suppose the American Indians were responsible for the Battle at Little Big Horn.

Sigh…

[The Magistrate]

9. I Do Not Consider That An Atrocity, Sir

You are beginning to bore me.

The leadership of Hamas decided to commit atrocity wholesale. They did this voluntarily, of their own free will. I dislike people pretending they had to do it because someone else did something. You have not engaged this, and show little sign you ever will.



"The thing to remember is that these things happened. They happened even if Lord Halifax says they did."

[UpInArms]

10. Oppressed people do not behave in rational ways, Sir

Do you believe I think what Francine Hughes did was the best or correct thing? I do not. Yet, I understand that people who believe they have little to lose can commit acts that are unacceptable.

[The Magistrate]

14. So Hamas Has No Moral Agency, Sir?

'To understand all is to forgive all' has been rightly called the Devil's sentimentality. Some things can only be properly hated once thoroughly understood.

Once the consequences of your action falls on things beyond your own skull and skin, it does not matter whether you made a rational choice or not. It was the choice you made, and all, including yourself, will bear its consequences.

The leadership of Hamas made a conscious decision to commit wholesale atrocity, one assumes for reasons which seemed good to them. Can you think of any?

[UpInArms]

16. No ... there are no good reasons

Apartheid is apartheid

[The Magistrate]

17. Game To The End, Fella, I'll Give You That

It is clear you are not willing to face the fact that Hamas has engaged in deliberate atrocity, in the idea this advances the cause of Arab Palestine. It would remain atrocity deliberately chosen even if it achieved this. That it will not adds greatly to the wrong done. Israel exists as a state so that things like this do not happen to Jews ever again. Whether or not you agree with this sentiment or not, whether I agree with it or not, it exists as a fact, a founding national purpose. Hamas has created a political moment in which the present Israeli government has considerable license from its population and the surrounding world.

[progressoid]

18. The US government using the military to take the sacred lands of the Lakota wasn't an atrocity?

Oookay.

[The Magistrate]

19. Silly Me

I saw the reference as assuming I would think wrong done there by the Sioux....

[Duppers]

20. Bravo !!

[Bok_Tukalo]

2. You don't get to stand on the corpses of those you raped ...

... and call it the moral high ground.

[agingdem]

5. spare me the "both sides" dreck

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Hama is a terrorist "organization"...Gaza is a haven for terrorists..Hamas systematically slaughtered Israeli and American innocents...75 years ago, after a difficult labor the state of Israel was born...and since Israel's birth she has been under siege, the Arab word refusing to recognize Israeli's right to exist...so pardon me if I don't give a damn about Palestinian "human rights"...one of these things is not like the other …NEVER AGAIN!

[bloom]

11. Israel has denied the Palestinians the 'right' to exist as they have taken over the country.

That fact seems quite obvious, to me.

It looks like Israel expects to finish them off, in the near future.

[agingdem]

13. Taking a page out of Hitler's final solution playbook

Hamas wants to finish off the Jews.. second verse same as the first..

[bloom]

15. Hamas is not close to finishing off the Jews.

Israel is close to finishing off Palestine. That is the situation.

[JohnSJ]

12. Deliberately Killing and targeting over 700 civilians isn't propaganda

[Bucky]

21. Twice that, at least, by latest count

And now Israel is going to get even by exacerbating the conditions in which so many Palestinians were attracted to a life of terrorism.