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Tue Oct 3, 2023, 11:25 PM Oct 2023

Republicans Cut Off Their Own Heads - WSJ Editorial

A band of eight Republicans succeeded in ousting Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker on Tuesday, and we trust they’re happy. They now have the chaos they wanted, though it isn’t clear what else they hope to achieve. Their clever plan seems to be to cut off their own heads.

Mr. McCarthy lost his job, but he rose in our esteem in recent days by the way he has handled this threatened coup. He put the country first on Saturday in refusing to let the plotters shut down the government for no good purpose. Then on Tuesday he refused to ask Democrats for a power-sharing deal in return for votes to rescue his Speakership. He put his party above his job, and his reward is that he is the first Speaker ousted in history. The vote was 216-210.

In retrospect the die may have been cast at the start of this Congress when Mr. McCarthy conceded to a rule that any single Member could offer a motion to vacate his chair. He may have had no choice to win the job, and he did so assuming at least some goodwill among his critics. The reality is that they were always lying in wait to strike.

We refer to Reps. Matt Gaetz, Nancy Mace, Eli Crane, Andy Biggs, Matt Rosendale, Bob Good, Tim Burchett and Ken Buck. They united with Democrats to topple a Republican Speaker without a plan, a replacement, or even a policy goal in mind. Four percent of the Republican conference trumped the 96% who supported the Speaker.

Mr. Biggs argued on the floor that the House hadn’t passed the 12 annual spending bills on time, but that’s because of demands from Members like him. He and Mr. Gaetz offered mainly a list of grievances and supposedly failed promises that had no chance of being realized this Congress. Their real motive looks to be spite, personal and political, and the result is to sow chaos in their own ranks.

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Republicans Cut Off Their Own Heads - WSJ Editorial (Original Post) question everything Oct 2023 OP
Having a sad for WSJ that their beloved GOP is shredding itself. usonian Oct 2023 #1
Yep. rubbersole Oct 2023 #4
"He put his party above his job." 😡 BlueKota Oct 2023 #25
"he rose in our esteem in recent days" Skittles Oct 2023 #2
I second that! Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #3
then this, at the end Hamlette Oct 2023 #5
Sounds like that part of the article was written by Bill Maher rpannier Oct 2023 #9
Ermm... there is no "crazy" left. ananda Oct 2023 #15
Correct. Delphinus Oct 2023 #24
exactly what I'd expect from the WSJ. True to form they have to get in their digs against Ds. Hamlette Oct 2023 #27
👆👆👆 Rebl2 Oct 2023 #21
No shit! 2naSalit Oct 2023 #23
Biggs should be in prison AZ8theist Oct 2023 #6
EVERYONE involved in that should have been charged Skittles Oct 2023 #12
Methinks now in effect Hakeem Jeffries is now speaker of the House. KPN Oct 2023 #7
I wish the media would stop this bullshit that the dems and the 8 republicans joined forces. Bev54 Oct 2023 #8
McCarthy likely would have kept his speakership rpannier Oct 2023 #10
I think you are right, one of the dems said there were some dems that were considering voting to Bev54 Oct 2023 #11
I agree totally rpannier Oct 2023 #13
Also, a vote in favour of keeping McCarthy was a vote for trump. McCarthy is/was trump's lapdog. Escurumbele Oct 2023 #19
Saving Kevin maliaSmith Oct 2023 #22
Republicans Cut Off Their Own Heads - WSJ Editorial Ray Bruns Oct 2023 #14
+1 TeamProg Oct 2023 #16
And the US news media goes right on amplifying them, on cue FakeNoose Oct 2023 #17
"They united with Democrats to topple a Republican Speaker without a plan" That is false Escurumbele Oct 2023 #18
If they need help........ twodogsbarking Oct 2023 #20
"Give us what we want or we'll kill one of us at a time until you do!" Wonder Why Oct 2023 #26
Isn't it just your nose that you cut off for spite? czarjak Oct 2023 #28

usonian

(9,802 posts)
1. Having a sad for WSJ that their beloved GOP is shredding itself.
Tue Oct 3, 2023, 11:31 PM
Oct 2023

Today's big winner, as always, with everything the GOP does.

BlueKota

(1,728 posts)
25. "He put his party above his job." 😡
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 12:39 PM
Oct 2023

Excuse me but he should have put the best interests of "we the people," above everything else including his party. Especially when his party is nothing but a bunch of treasonous snakes.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
5. then this, at the end
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 01:39 AM
Oct 2023
Meanwhile, the House is essentially frozen. The putative GOP majority is weaker, and its ability to gain any policy victories has been undermined. Oversight of the Biden Administration will slow or stop. Republicans in swing districts who are vulnerable in 2024 will be especially wary of trusting the Gaetz faction, and regaining any unity of purpose will be that much harder. The crazy left and right are cheering, but no one else is.



Trust the WSJ to find a way to blame it on Democrats. Assholes.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
12. EVERYONE involved in that should have been charged
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 02:21 AM
Oct 2023

WHY ARE THESE TRAITORS STILL PARTICIPATING IN A GOVERNMENT THEY CLEARLY DON'T BELIEVE IN

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
8. I wish the media would stop this bullshit that the dems and the 8 republicans joined forces.
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 02:01 AM
Oct 2023

They did not, the dems voted the way they always will, the republicans voted amongst themselves, nothing to do with the dems.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
10. McCarthy likely would have kept his speakership
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 02:10 AM
Oct 2023

Had he not gone on national news and blamed the Democrats for the problems with getting the budget resolution passed

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
11. I think you are right, one of the dems said there were some dems that were considering voting to
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 02:20 AM
Oct 2023

keep him in, until they were shown his appearance on the sunday morning show and reminded of all the other lies and BS he has done over the past few months. That was enough to keep them all together but at no time did they discuss with or join forces with the 8 republicans.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
13. I agree totally
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 02:37 AM
Oct 2023

That he is too stupid to not say idiotic things is a testament to why it's better he's gone
A Republican congressman from TN said he was in over his head as speaker
The 8 voted against him because they are children and criminals
The Dems voted against him because McCarthy is a moron and an incompetent

maliaSmith

(80 posts)
22. Saving Kevin
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 12:08 PM
Oct 2023

Glad no Democrats voted to support Kevin. One word, Benghazi. Never forget the lies he spread about Hillary.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
18. "They united with Democrats to topple a Republican Speaker without a plan" That is false
Wed Oct 4, 2023, 10:17 AM
Oct 2023

There was no "negotiations" with the MAGAts to oust McCarthy from the Democrats. The "They united..." infers that both were in cahoots to oust McCarthy. What the Democrats did was to make a decision for themselves whether they wanted to help McCarthy or not, and they decided that McCarthy was not someone they could trust, that McCarthy is a man without principles to help him out, they could not trust the guy, for very good reasons.

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