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Stuart G

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Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:45 PM Dec 2019

Impeachment hearings just confirmed voters preexisting opionions: 538

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-impeachment-hearings-just-confirmed-voters-preexisting-opinions/

Dec. 4, 2019, at 6:00 AM

By Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux and Laura Bronner

The first phase of the impeachment process is over, and according to our impeachment tracker, public opinion on impeaching and removing President Trump has remained largely steady through most of November, with roughly 47 percent of Americans supporting impeachment and 44 percent opposed. And in our latest survey with Ipsos, where we check back in with the same group of respondents every two weeks using Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel, we uncovered a similar trend.

A majority of Americans (57 percent) still think Trump committed an impeachable offense, which is essentially identical to the share who said so in mid-November when we first asked the question. There was one relatively small but noteworthy shift between the first and second rounds of our survey. After the first round of hearings, where witnesses testified that Trump and his allies had been involved in the push for investigations into Joe Biden and his son, respondents were more likely to agree that Trump withheld military aid to pressure the Ukrainians into opening an investigation. In our initial survey, 56 percent of respondents said they believed this happened, but in the latest poll, that number rose to 63 percent. Democrats are still, however, much more likely than Republicans to think that Trump conditioned the aid on the investigations.

Overall, though, opinion on impeachment seems to have hardened as a result of the public testimony instead of persuading people to change their position. For instance, a majority of respondents (58 percent) said that the hearings did shift their thinking on whether Trump committed an impeachable offense, but in almost all cases they simply became more convinced of their original opinion. Ninety-five percent of people who said the hearings made them more likely to think Trump committed an impeachable offense already said they thought he committed an impeachable offense in the first wave of our poll. Similarly, 95 percent of those who said the hearings made them less likely to think Trump committed an an impeachable offense already thought his behavior wasn’t impeachable.
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Impeachment hearings just confirmed voters preexisting opionions: 538 (Original Post) Stuart G Dec 2019 OP
That's because the two groups saw different acts... CincyDem Dec 2019 #1

CincyDem

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1. That's because the two groups saw different acts...
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:04 PM
Dec 2019

One group saw the real testimony and witnesses. The other saw a parody produced for avid Fox News viewers that filters the world through Trump’s warped lens on the world.

While one side was concerned about surviving this fiasco of an administration, the other side was fretting about democrats’ plans cancel thanksgiving or some such chit.

Feed people two different diets of information...one based on reality and the other based of fiction...and this is where we get.

Here’s to praying reality survives and wins this round. Because there have been and always will be more rounds.

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