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BigmanPigman

(51,618 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:00 PM Aug 2019

Trump's State-by-State Approval Ratings Should Scare the MAGA Out of Him

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)

*Map available at link at bottom.

"The online polling firm Civiqs has published a new set of state-by-state job-approval ratings for Trump as of August 11, and it shows how the president’s overall standing (a 43 percent approval rating nationally, which happens to match the current RealClearPolitics polling average) might translate into electorate votes. It’s not a pretty picture for the president, to put it mildly.

"Civiqs shows the president’s net approval ratios being underwater (i.e., negative) in 10 states he carried in 2016. These are, by the way, polls of registered voters, not just “adults,” so they should be a relatively sound reflection of the views of the electorate.
If you credit these polls at all, Trump’s reelection will require (1) a big late improvement in his approval ratings, which is possible but unlikely based on long-standing patterns during his polarizing presidency; (2) a campaign that succeeds in making the election turn on theoretical fears about his opponent rather than actual fears about a second Trump term, which won’t be easy either; (3) a big Republican turnout advantage, which is less likely among the larger presidential electorate than it was in 2018; or (4) some diabolical ability to thread the needle despite every contrary indicator, which superstitious Democrats fear for obvious reasons.

"If the fourth scenario — a win against all the evidence — is Trump’s best hope for reelection, he’s the one who needs to experience some fear and trembling heading toward 2020. If anything, there’s evidence that he is likely to undershoot rather than overshoot his approval ratings as the sitting president of a country whose direction lacks any kind of public confidence. Beyond that, even those who succeed by selling their souls to the devil don’t have the collateral to pull that off twice.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/trumps-state-by-state-approval-ratings-should-scare-him.html

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212377141

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Trump's State-by-State Approval Ratings Should Scare the MAGA Out of Him (Original Post) BigmanPigman Aug 2019 OP
he was supposed to lose in 2016 nt msongs Aug 2019 #1
Yes, he was. elleng Aug 2019 #2
That's only 3 states. BlueWI Aug 2019 #11
Exactly !Everyone needs to vote and get him out is a must -but anything can happen lunasun Aug 2019 #3
I know...that is why we need a 12 point lead going into the election BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #5
Trump personal approval ratings were similar before the Nov 2016 election Cicada Aug 2019 #4
Trump can't possibly win an honest election. Girard442 Aug 2019 #6
Right now customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #7
Good point. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #8
Bookmarking... Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #9
Disapproval doesn't mean they won't vote for him. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #10
The Russians may be MFM008 Aug 2019 #12

elleng

(131,032 posts)
2. Yes, he was.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:04 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe Dems will show up in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Illinois, and maybe the states will secure their voting equipment.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
11. That's only 3 states.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:56 PM
Aug 2019

What about the rest of the country?

Posts of reassurance at this stage do the Democratic cause a disservice. Politics today are too volatile. Plus there are state and local elections to compete in, along with the House and Senate.

There are simply no certainties or even leads at this point. A full court press from now till November is the ticket.

BigmanPigman

(51,618 posts)
5. I know...that is why we need a 12 point lead going into the election
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:07 PM
Aug 2019

just to come out close to real election results WITHOUT Russian and GOP "interference". I think that is why no one listened to Bill Maher (and me) when he said tRump would win. They believed the polls. I kept hoping we were wrong though.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
4. Trump personal approval ratings were similar before the Nov 2016 election
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:06 PM
Aug 2019

So I am not sure his underwater job approval is decisive

Girard442

(6,082 posts)
6. Trump can't possibly win an honest election.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:16 PM
Aug 2019

But then again, he never could. He ended up in the White House anyway.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. Right now
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:24 PM
Aug 2019

Trump is running against "generic Democratic candidate". Once we get an actual nominee, that person's perceived weaknesses will be magnified greatly. That's why Trump isn't appearing to be worried.

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
10. Disapproval doesn't mean they won't vote for him.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:42 PM
Aug 2019

Plenty of people who disapproved of him voted for him in 2016. The same will occur in 2020. We need to keep that in mind and not put too much faith in approval ratings.

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