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riversedge

(70,056 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:26 PM Oct 2018

The Tragedy of Jamal Khashoggi The sad irony of the Saudi journalist's disappearance: His fate may.

International pressure including from the US may topple him. We will see. Lindsey Graham has a big hat--we will see if he has cattle to go with it.






The Tragedy of Jamal Khashoggi


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/12/the-tragedy-of-jamal-khashoggi-221306


The sad irony of the Saudi journalist’s disappearance: His fate may seal that of the reckless leader he criticized.


By KRISTIAN ULRICHSEN

October 12, 2018


The Friday Cover
An illustration of a human head, with dozens of faces of Donald Trump where the brain should be.



It’s not just Jamal Khashoggi.

The disappearance and reported killing of the reform-minded Saudi journalist at a consulate in Istanbul is only the latest in a succession of developments that have cast serious doubt upon the trajectory of Saudi Arabia under Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Since the 33-year-old son of King Salman leapfrogged dozens of older and more experienced cousins to become Saudi Arabia’s next-generation leader in 2015, he has lurched from one mistake to another.

He launched a seemingly unwinnable war in Yemen. He demanded a blockade of neighboring Qatar that appears more pointless with every passing month. He ordered the detention of hundreds of journalists, clerics, activists, officials and businesspeople, including, briefly, Lebanon’s prime minister, Saad Hariri. He oversaw a diplomatic rupture with Canada in a furious overreaction to fairly routine criticism.

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All that now may change if it is proved beyond reasonable doubt that Khashoggi was killed while visiting the Saudi consulate on October 3, or that senior policymakers in Riyadh either ordered or were aware of the plan to target him. Circumstantial evidence, and the fact that Khashoggi remains missing a week after he was last seen alive entering the consulate, has accumulated to the point that the burden of proof falls on the Saudis to show that Khashoggi left the consulate unscathed and of his own accord. This the Saudis have been unable to do, on the flimsy pretext that the surveillance system at the consulate was livestream only and did not record video footage. A drip-drip of other tidbits of detail, such as the suggestion that Khashoggi was asked to return to the consulate three days after his initial appointment to complete paperwork needed for his forthcoming marriage to a Turkish woman, or that local Turkish staff reportedly were told not to come to work the day of his disappearance, and the discovery that a team of 15 Saudi security personnel flew into Istanbul and were at the consulate during Khashoggi’s visit, have added to the crescendo of accusations that the Saudis have been unable to explain away or offer even a plausible alternative course of events.

If the Saudis indeed killed Khashoggi and thought they could get away with it, they have made a grave miscalculation. Not only was he a contributing writer for the influential Washington Post op-ed page — which has been thundering in its demands for accountability — but Khashoggi was well-known on Capitol Hill as a leading Saudi reformer. Members of Congress, including prominent Republicans such as Foreign Affairs chairman Bob Corker of Tennessee and Trump-whisperer Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, have expressed outrage at Saudi Arabia’s behavior and threatened to invoke sanctions under the Global Magnitsky Act, a bill that allows the executive branch to impose targeted sanctions and visa bans on individuals worldwide responsible for human rights violations....
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The Tragedy of Jamal Khashoggi The sad irony of the Saudi journalist's disappearance: His fate may. (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2018 OP
Those 15 Saudis are about to diminish in number. Sneederbunk Oct 2018 #1
My thoughts Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #4
This is terrible. I've always respected some aspects of SA, its people mostly, but to have ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #2
and torture nt Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #5
Really! Disgusting. I think that the Saudi Arabian people have lost something w/ ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #6
Mohammed bin Salman is literally a bloodthirsty murderous tyrant dalton99a Oct 2018 #3
on am joy this am, one of the panelists said his nickname w many is mopinko Oct 2018 #7
Oh Please! dem in texas Oct 2018 #8
Wouldn't count on 2naSalit Oct 2018 #9
What stood out to me. "Turkish staff reportedly were told libdem4life Oct 2018 #10
Sounds trump like. irisblue Oct 2018 #11
Sanctions? rickyhall Oct 2018 #12
They've gotten away with killing the people of Yemen. one journalist won't BeckyDem Oct 2018 #13

SWBTATTReg

(22,061 posts)
2. This is terrible. I've always respected some aspects of SA, its people mostly, but to have ...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:45 PM
Oct 2018

someone like this advocating the murder of someone and then actually carrying it out? Wow.

SWBTATTReg

(22,061 posts)
6. Really! Disgusting. I think that the Saudi Arabian people have lost something w/ ...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:59 PM
Oct 2018

this guy in power and will see more drama if this regime continues on this types of policies.

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
8. Oh Please!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:06 PM
Oct 2018

Do you really believe Trump will impose any sanctions on S.A.? No! He will tweet a message to SBS that he was naughty boy.

2naSalit

(86,318 posts)
9. Wouldn't count on
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:07 PM
Oct 2018

Corker or Graham to do anything but huff and puff a little. They've sold their souls and they know it now, they have to play along in the end or else.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. What stood out to me. "Turkish staff reportedly were told
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 02:29 PM
Oct 2018

not to come to work the day of his disappearance..." Reminds me of some "conspiracy theorists" that many were told not to report to work at the Twin Towers the day of the tragedy. Sometimes it's comforting to be a "nobody".

What gave me hope...The Magnitsky Act potential backed by some Rs. Could there be enough public backlash and just a tad of decency to make this, at the very least, happen?

irisblue

(32,918 posts)
11. Sounds trump like.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 02:57 PM
Oct 2018

..."...a reputation as an impulsive, even reckless decision-maker, but until recently he has faced little domestic or international pushback or crossed a bridge too far. "

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
12. Sanctions?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 03:08 PM
Oct 2018

Means fuel prices like Iraq Invasion or more. Can you say $5 or $6 a gallon with no relief from Iran, Iraq or Venezuela, but good for Putin, right.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
13. They've gotten away with killing the people of Yemen. one journalist won't
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:35 PM
Oct 2018

bother Trump. He loves them. Where was Branson and the others happy to deal with them when the people of Yemen needed allies?

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