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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:58 PM Jul 2016

CBS' Pelley repeats the GOP Big Lie about Hillary's emails - when will tv get honest newsreaders?

ON Sunday's 60 Minutes, Scott Pelley interviewing Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, had to get in his obeisance to GOP propaganda by saying:
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"The director of the FBI has said that Clinton was extremely careless and that in the tens of thousands of emails on the unsecured server several contained classified information"
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.. IF this were actually the case, then that would mean Secretary Clinton lied when she said she did not receive or send any emails marked classified while Secretary of State. But that is not what Comey actually said re the emails.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-democratic-ticket-scott-pelley/


Of course, Comey's statement on July 5, did contain many extra-legal insinuations and implied accusations (unsupported) of Clinton. However, on the emails Comey stated:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system
(all emphasis my own)
"Where an e-mail was assessed as [font size="+1"]possibly [/font] containing classified information, the FBI referred the e-mail to any U.S. government agency that was a likely “owner” of information in the e-mail, so that agency [font size="+1"]could make a determination as to whether the e-mail contained classified information[/font]..."

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"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received."


What this means is, they went to the "owning agencies" to "make a determination as to whether the e-mail contained classified information" ... because there were NO CLASSIFIED INFORMATION HEADERS on those 110 emails. Now, either Scott Pelley is too stupid to understand this or he is grovelling before the GOP by providing counterfeit support for the GOP propaganda that Clinton lied to Congress when she said she did not "send or receive any emails marked classified"... during her tenure as Sec of State.

As Rep. Matt Cartwright made clear with his questions of Comey in the Congressional hearing, as per the governing regulation/manual on transmitting classified information, any document with classified information in it, MUST have a Classified Information Header on the document warning anybody about to look at the document that it contains classified information and that they should NOT go any further unless they have the proper security clearance. When Rep Cartwright asked Dir Comey if the three emails he said had "c"'s in their text had Classified Headers, Comey replied they did not. Thus, none of the emails that Clinton received/sent had Classified Headers on them.


Note too, that Pelley described Hillary's server as "unsecured" even though IT experts who examined the server said they could see that measures were taken to protect the server from unapproved incursions by hackers or malware.

Regarding the security of the server, Comey said that: "With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked."

But then Comey went on to say: "But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence."

But then Comey caught himself up (although he didn't know he did) by saying:

"We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account."


Here Comey reveals his duplicity .. or his stupidity. IF the FBI software detected malware in some emails, that software would have found malware in Clinton's server. NOTE - NOBODY goes to the trouble to get malware on someone's server, only to have it erase itself after a time. The whole POINT of getting malware onto Clinton's server would be to monitor and send updates to the "hostile actor" as to the activities on the server, such as new emails received and sent. To do that, the malware MUST reside in the servers memory. Thus, if it is there, the FBI's malware detection software that found malware in emails sure as hell would have found any malware residing in Clintons server.

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So it is apparent over at CBS they certainly don't want to appear to be coming up short when it comes to helping out The Party in the coming election. And Scott Pelley seems to be challenging Charlie Rose for the distinction of being the biggest GOP toady at CBS. Enjoy licking those boots, Scott. To be fair, it's not just CBS the entire Corporate media is bailing on their job of informing the people about what's really going on with the GOP's war to protect the Plutocracy.


....and I wonder if Comey thinks Clinton was "extremely careless" with classified information, does that apply to the two to three hundred career government officials who sent Sec Clinton those emails? .. and if it applies to two to three hundred career government officials, is the standard he is using empirically based or is it theoretical? AND I wonder what would Dir Comey say if she had outed a covert CIA agent (Joe Wilson says Cheney is a Traitor)?
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Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
1. There were markings for classified content portions of the e-mails
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jul 2016

Even President Obama said she was careless

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
2. if documents actually contain Classified info they MUST have a classified info header
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/7/1546038/-Comey-tanks-key-GOP-talking-point-admits-classified-materials-were-not-properly-marked
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MATT CARTWRIGHT: You were asked about markings on a few documents, I have the manual here, marking national classified security information. And I don't think you were given a full chance to talk about those three documents with the little c's on them. Were they properly documented? Were they properly marked according to the manual?

JAMES COMEY: No. [...]

MATT CARTWRIGHT: According to the manual, if you're going to classify something, there has to be a header on the document? Right?

JAMES COMEY: Correct.

MATT CARTWRIGHT: Was there a header on the three documents that we've discussed today that had the little c in the text someplace?

JAMES COMEY: No. There were three e-mails, the c was in the body, in the text, but there was no header on the email or in the text.

MATT CARTWRIGHT: So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert about what's classified and what's not classified and we're following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified. Am I correct in that?

JAMES COMEY: That would be a reasonable inference.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
6. Yeah, Matt Cartwright just made up the Classified information communication manual. LOL!!!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jul 2016


Sorry, I know republicans don't want to be disturbed in their enjoyment of your Alternate Universe.


Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
3. her server was not hacked. Government computers hacked many times during her time at state.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jul 2016

WHO is careless?


Dept of state IG reported that use of personal commercial email accounts for official business by high level officials is rampant.

Now read this slowly and carefully....

Commercial email providers have hundreds of people who are there to protect their systems (servers) from hackers and malware. IN ORDER TO DO THEIR JOBS, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO EXAMINE ANY AND ALL EMAILS AND ASSOCIATED ATTACHMENTS IN THEIR SYSTEM. These people DO NOT have Government security clearances. This means that NOBODY CAN SAY THAT ANY CLASSIFIED INFO IN EMAILS IN COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS IS SECURE OR HAS NOT BEEN COMPROMISED.

EVERYBODY USING A COMMERCIAL EMAIL ACCOUNT FOR OFFICIAL (GOVERNMENT BUSINESS) - IF THERE IS CLASSiFIED INFORMATION IN ANY OF THEIR EMAILS THEY ARE BEING FAR MORE CARELESS (ACTUALLY RECKLESS) THAN CLINTON WAS SETTING UP and using what was a Government (controlled) satellite server.

Knowledge is power.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
9. That is very different from being "marked classified."
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jul 2016

Comey knows that; it's why he used different, squirrelly words.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
10. his statement is a masterwork of disinformation, designed to lead the non-critical thinkers to think
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jul 2016

he said something that he really didn't say. Republicans (and con-men in general) seem to have a real knack for this kindof shit.






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