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niyad

(113,802 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:36 PM May 2016

‘They’: the singular pronoun that could solve sexism in English

‘They’: the singular pronoun that could solve sexism in English
Lorraine Berry

You only need four letters to take a stand against the prejudice embedded in the English language

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I got in trouble over a four-letter word the other day. None of the ones you are thinking of: it was “they” that caused a fracas that Jeremy Clarkson would have been proud of. At the start of 2016, the good folks of the American Dialect Society got together to crown their Word of the Year. They (see what I’m doing here) have decided that the word could now be used as a singular pronoun, flexing the English language so a plural could denote a singular, genderless, individual.


They has long been used in the singular in English, but not to denote genderlessness. One of the earliest examples comes from Geoffrey Chaucer in 1395, who wrote in The Pardoner’s Tale: “And whoso fyndeth hym out of swich blame, They wol come up…” Shakespeare followed in 1594, in The Comedy of Errors: “There’s not a man I meet but doth salute me/As if I were their well-acquainted friend”. It took a few centuries for they to pop up in reference to women: Jane Austen uses they in the singular 75 times in Pride and Prejudice (1813) and as Rosalind muses in 1848’s Vanity Fair: “A person can’t help their birth.”

Around 1809, Samuel Taylor Coleridge rejected “he” as the generic pronoun (“in order to avoid particularising man or woman, or in order to express either sex indifferently”, he wrote in his notebooks), settling on “it” as an ideal, neutral solution. Roughly around the same time, the philosopher John Stuart Mill was struggling to define the philosophy of language itself: what we could know – if anything – beyond our language? Mill came to the conclusion that language tells us what is thinkable, possible; so, if a young woman never sees the word “she” or “they”, could she naturally know that “he” represented her, too? No. In this sense, women were inherently excluded.
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Growing up almost two centuries later, I was just supposed to understand that language excluded me because I was a girl: I was out, except when it came to naming hurricanes and referring to ships. I was once told as a kid that all hurricanes were female because women were so destructive; a barbed comment I never questioned because at the time I already sensed some things were easier if you were a boy. These days there is an increased awareness of gender and how we define it. The ever prevalent pay gap, the high rate of male suicide. The rise of transgender celebrities: Laverne Cox, Caitlyn Jenner, the Wachowski sisters. Maria Munir, the non-binary student who came out to Obama in April. Debates about contraception, consent, masculinity, body image: so many public conversations are opening up how we define gender and its roles. But there are many insidious examples of gender divides that persist in English usage: Oxford Dictionaries defining the word “rabid” with the example “a rabid feminist” or “housework” with “she still does all the housework” – but then using the male pronoun for all examples involving doctors. ******There are 220 words for a sexually promiscuous woman in English, but only 20 for their male equivalents.****

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http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2016/may/05/they-the-singular-pronoun-that-could-solve-sexism-in-english

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‘They’: the singular pronoun that could solve sexism in English (Original Post) niyad May 2016 OP
"they" is plural Buzz Clik May 2016 #1
No they is not jberryhill May 2016 #2
Stand corrected. I are such a fool. Buzz Clik May 2016 #4
"They is" sounds wrong. But eventually it will not. Thor_MN May 2016 #5
It'll stay "they are." Igel May 2016 #8
We are not amused awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #9
This is a common casual construction, I think it would be good to have it "legitimized." thesquanderer May 2016 #3
what always interests me is the resistance to gender-neutral pronouns. I have had more niyad May 2016 #6
I'm actually a very staunch advocate of gender-neutral pronouns. Chan790 May 2016 #10
I use s/he where possible, and her/his amoung other things. niyad May 2016 #11
. . . niyad May 2016 #7
. . . . niyad May 2016 #12
it beats the Hell out of browbeat ingredients people to accept yurbud May 2016 #13

Igel

(35,386 posts)
8. It'll stay "they are."
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

If you're going to have a mismatch, you have a mismatch.

Many of us have been doing it for many, many decades, with generations before us. It's the prescriptivists that really hate it because for them language = logic.

They just don't get "logic."

thesquanderer

(11,999 posts)
3. This is a common casual construction, I think it would be good to have it "legitimized."
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:35 PM
May 2016

And I think there would be less resistance to it than attempts at "new" gender neutral pronouns that have been attempted.

niyad

(113,802 posts)
6. what always interests me is the resistance to gender-neutral pronouns. I have had more
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

than one person practically throw a fit over their usage. witness some of the oh-so-predictable replies here.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
10. I'm actually a very staunch advocate of gender-neutral pronouns.
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:03 PM
May 2016

But that pronoun should not be "they." I make a point in posting to use "ze" and "hir" forms to denote people of unspecified gender or whose gender is unclear in the hopes those will catch on.

"They" has always rubbed me the wrong way since I was a literacy tutor...informal or not, it's just bad language formation and makes it harder to teach English. A pox on its supporters and advocates.

Edit: I am aware I am fighting a losing battle on two fronts but I'm not prone to giving in until I overcome by pure willpower.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
13. it beats the Hell out of browbeat ingredients people to accept
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

New invented pronouns like herm or shemp.

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