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jg10003

(974 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:32 PM Mar 2016

Raw Story: The momentum story: How the Bernie Sanders crowd can still win

The media and the political class have called it — Bernie Sanders has lost the Democratic Presidential nomination. They are flat wrong, and not for the first time.

Here’s the real story: the Sanders campaign is changing the laws of political physics — just like Trump did, only far more profoundly. The Bernie crowd is building the most extraordinary grassroots momentum I have ever seen. The movement is gathering strength by the day, and its chances to win are growing fast.


Full article here;
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/the-momentum-story-how-the-bernie-sanders-crowd-can-still-win/
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1. It seems that both foreign observers...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

and ex-pats have a much better grasp of American politics and political shenanigans than do many continental Americans, i.e., ex-pat voting being overwhelmingly pro-Bernie.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
15. It could be the election that forever changes the country into a non-democracy
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

if either Hillary of a Republican wins, the 3 trade deals and the finishing of WTO deals started two decades ago will mean that the Presidency/Congress/Senators will be mostly symbolic on economically relevant issues, with no real power.

Bernie is pretending that the WTO never happened more as a referendum on it. But we began a process which is almost finished signing away the right to have any more New Deals (and also our right to protect domestic markets) two decades ago during the Clinton Administration. The opening of the US market to globalisation is almost wrapped up. It will mean big changes.

Much of the paralysis has already happened on health care, as we can see.

the part which is beginning is the Mode IV provisions of FTAs - basically the globalized subcontracting part.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. Some serious magical thinking here
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:55 PM
Mar 2016

when you are depending on exponential growth. It will only work if Bernie brings a shit ton of new voters to the ballot box because that growth is not coming out of Hillary's coalition. So far Bernie has failed abysmally to attract new voters. Bernie made a huge mistake betting his candidacy on young voters - they are the fools gold that entrance some populist politician every election only to let them down time and time again.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. Better to base your political campaign on groups you know will actually vote in large numbers
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

because at the end of the day, the votes are all that matter.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
6. Votes come from energy. It takes energy to get out and vote. I think the energy...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:11 PM
Mar 2016

around Bernie is great, and is only going to get better.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. The results say the opposite.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

turnout is down and Bernie has been unable to expand his appeal beyond his very narrow base of support.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
8. Sorry, Hack. We will fight all the way to the convention, and beyond!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

Your naysaying is pointless.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
13. He's already won 5 states and tied in 2 more. Not bad for someone not supposed to win any except VT!
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 06:28 PM
Mar 2016
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