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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:05 PM Apr 2012

Ferdinand Porsche, sports car designer, dies

Source: MSNBC.com

By The Associated Press

FRANKFURT, Germany — He designed Porsche's classic 911 sports car — the sleek model that evokes power, wealth and envy among aficionados — cementing his grandfather's name into the modern psyche

Ferdinand Alexander Porsche died Thursday in Salzburg, Austria at age 76, Porsche AG said. No cause was provided.

Porsche, known as F.A. to his colleagues, was head of the Porsche design studio in the early 1960s when the company developed the 911 model that remains its brand-defining product. The car, now in its seventh version, remains recognizably the same vehicle, with its sloping roofline, long, low hood and prominent headlights.

"The creator of the Porsche 911 has founded a culture of design in our company that distinguishes our sports cars even today," Porsche CEO Matthias Mueller said.

Porsche was the son of former Porsche Chairman Ferry Porsche, who died in 1998, and the grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, who started the company as a design and engineering firm in the 1930s.
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Thanks for the incredible cars, Herr Porsche!

My 928
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Ferdinand Porsche, sports car designer, dies (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Apr 2012 OP
911 is still my favorite car to this day.. frylock Apr 2012 #1
Absolutely. I've had a 944 and a 928 (both were affordable)... Cooley Hurd Apr 2012 #2
i've only ever driven a 911 once.. frylock Apr 2012 #4
Mine too madokie Apr 2012 #34
r.i.p. to a true visionary Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #3
Not just cars. I have a Grundig radio designed by him. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #5
Porsche - there is no substitute. CJCRANE Apr 2012 #6
Grandfather was a weapons designer for Herr Adolph usrname Apr 2012 #7
You've reminded me of a favorite joke EverHopeful Apr 2012 #12
In 1969 I almost bought a silver 911 off the showroom floor in San Antonio. flamin lib Apr 2012 #8
RIP IMOTM2012 Apr 2012 #9
Every Porsche ever made to this day turns my head, cliffordu Apr 2012 #10
"I might have peed a little" awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #11
turns my head too grasswire Apr 2012 #15
I rented a 911SC Targa and drove the Mountain Loop Highway in WA. Remember taking a curve that was Citizen Worker Apr 2012 #13
When his grandfather got together with Daimler dipsydoodle Apr 2012 #14
Homage to the 911, and the men who designed and developed it leveymg Apr 2012 #16
That car is from 1939? Beacool Apr 2012 #21
The all-conquering 917 of 1970 traces directly back to the still-born 1938 V-10 Type 114 leveymg Apr 2012 #23
The 917 was a truly terrifying car. hifiguy Apr 2012 #25
If you think the 917 was terrifying, can you imagine driving a mid-engine V-16 with swing axles? leveymg Apr 2012 #28
The men who drove those cars hifiguy Apr 2012 #37
Video of Nuvolari winning the 1938 Donnington Grand Prix in an Auto Union D-Type: leveymg Apr 2012 #38
Thank you. Beacool Apr 2012 #27
A very similar shape was used in a concept VW. kentauros Apr 2012 #32
goosebumps. mopinko Apr 2012 #33
RIP Ferdinand.... unkachuck Apr 2012 #17
Didn't Porsche design the Schickelgruber's Revenge?? Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2012 #18
Maybe his grandfather designed the bug. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #20
Did you ever see the "comparison" when the new Beetle came out? jmowreader Apr 2012 #31
That was the first Ferdinand Porsche. hifiguy Apr 2012 #26
Yes madokie Apr 2012 #35
I met FA back in the late 1970s at a Porsche Club event in Virginia. CottonBear Apr 2012 #19
Beautiful cars! burrowowl Apr 2012 #22
One of the most brilliant automotive designers of all time. hifiguy Apr 2012 #24
K&R. Very sad... :( Rhiannon12866 Apr 2012 #29
Engine is still at the wrong end. flvegan Apr 2012 #30
917... Hotler Apr 2012 #36
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
2. Absolutely. I've had a 944 and a 928 (both were affordable)...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:24 PM
Apr 2012

...and loved them. I've driven 911's before and I love how you feel... cupped by the machine.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
4. i've only ever driven a 911 once..
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:55 PM
Apr 2012

a 2006 carrera 4s 911 cabriolet. pulled the thing onto the freeway and goosed it. my friend riding with me exclaims "OMG, we're doing 100mph!" i didn't even realize it! felt like we were going maybe 80!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
34. Mine too
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:50 AM
Apr 2012

I've wanted one ever since the first day I seen one. And brother thats been a long time ago

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. Not just cars. I have a Grundig radio designed by him.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:56 PM
Apr 2012

It is fan freakin' tastic. FAR better than the Red Cross emergency radios, for the same price.

 

usrname

(398 posts)
7. Grandfather was a weapons designer for Herr Adolph
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:30 PM
Apr 2012

They were cool tanks, though. The King Tiger (Panzer Mk VI(?)) was the biggest and baddest tank in WWII and was designed by the Porsche group. There was a Henkel (sp?) element to it as well. There was a competition among several designers for the King Tiger.

As cool as they were, they didn't have either range or the mobility. They were dinosaurs the moment they were conceived.

EverHopeful

(185 posts)
12. You've reminded me of a favorite joke
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:10 PM
Apr 2012

that, through the years, only Porshe/VW owners ever laughed at (or maybe I just don't tell a joke well).

Do you know why the Germans really lost the war? Because they had to keep stopping to adjust the valves on their tanks.

I'll avoid going into my rant about how Grandfather Ferdinand Porshe was apolitical and how he was deceived by Hitler. From everything I've read, he was a focused, engineering genius and just wanted to make great cars.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
8. In 1969 I almost bought a silver 911 off the showroom floor in San Antonio.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:46 PM
Apr 2012

Went back home to Kerrville to check finances and found the draft notice.

Given my tender age of 21 and the twisty turny roads of the Texas Hill Country I think the US Army saved my life . . . .

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
10. Every Porsche ever made to this day turns my head,
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:22 PM
Apr 2012

more than women, motorcycles, fast bicycles or train wrecks.

A mechanic (and ex- pro driver) I knew took me for a test ride in an old bathtub Porsche

and as he steered us through a four wheel drift on a city street to make the 90 degree corner back to the shop said:

"This is really a nice car, isn't it?"

We might have been doing 60.

I might have peed a little.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. turns my head too
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:21 PM
Apr 2012

I always look at and listen to a Porsche go by. And I always remember my sand colored 912, which is long gone.

Citizen Worker

(1,785 posts)
13. I rented a 911SC Targa and drove the Mountain Loop Highway in WA. Remember taking a curve that was
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:02 PM
Apr 2012

posted at 25mph at 70mph. No drift, tires didn't break loose and in fact, the car hugged that curve so tightly I probably could have taken it at 80mph. There is no other like a Porsche!

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
14. When his grandfather got together with Daimler
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:17 PM
Apr 2012

the name Mercedes had already been used by Daimler years before - she was a young Austrian girl he named a car after. If her name had been Daisy some would now be driving a Daisy Benz.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
16. Homage to the 911, and the men who designed and developed it
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 08:29 PM
Apr 2012

From the early 911 that was very much just a logical follow-on to the 356, through the highly erotic RS, to the mind-blowing 935 Moby Dick. They all get traced back to Dr. Ferdinand's 1939 Type 64, the true grandfather of all Porsche cars:



leveymg

(36,418 posts)
23. The all-conquering 917 of 1970 traces directly back to the still-born 1938 V-10 Type 114
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:11 AM
Apr 2012

1970 Type 917 flat-12 mid engine sports-racer


1938 Type 114 V-10 mid engine sports coupe, which was to have been Porsche's first car built in-house by his own design bureau


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. The 917 was a truly terrifying car.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:07 AM
Apr 2012

McLaren had dominated the Can-Am series for years until Roger Penske and Mark Donahue showed up with a 917. They promptly demolished and dominated the series to such an extent that Can-Am died off. Jeebus, that thing had something over 1000 horsepower - in 1970!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
28. If you think the 917 was terrifying, can you imagine driving a mid-engine V-16 with swing axles?
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
Apr 2012

Three decades before there was a McLaren M8 or the Can Am Panzerwagens, there were the Auto Union and Mercedes streamliner record cars. Prof. Ferdinand Porsche (the elder) also designed this one, below.

Would you drive on 1937 tyres at over 200 mph? Maybe if you're Tazio Nuvolari, Bernd Rosemeyer or Dick Seaman:





 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
37. The men who drove those cars
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:02 AM
Apr 2012

and the equally scary mid-engine Auto Union grand prix cars had brass balls, that is for certain.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
38. Video of Nuvolari winning the 1938 Donnington Grand Prix in an Auto Union D-Type:
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:19 AM
Apr 2012

Last edited Mon Apr 9, 2012, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Add oil onto a corner for extra fun. Even the spectators had to be brave. Brass balls, indeed.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
32. A very similar shape was used in a concept VW.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:48 PM
Apr 2012

I think that maybe the designers of the VW L1 hybrid have been looking at it for inspiration:



 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
17. RIP Ferdinand....
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 09:29 PM
Apr 2012

....I always wanted to drive and own a Porsche....the closest I ever came was to own one of granddads air-cooled Beetles....not that I'm complaining....

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
20. Maybe his grandfather designed the bug.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:25 PM
Apr 2012

Whoever designed the bug's heating system should have been shot for crimes against humanity.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
31. Did you ever see the "comparison" when the new Beetle came out?
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 09:07 PM
Apr 2012

Volkswagen put a "comparison" checklist between the Type 1 (classic Bug) and the new Beetle (Bug with the engine at the wrong end) on their webpage, and under "climate control" or whatever the hell they called it:

new Beetle: Heat, dual-zone air conditioning...
classic Beetle: Heat only in the summer.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
19. I met FA back in the late 1970s at a Porsche Club event in Virginia.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:07 PM
Apr 2012

I learned to drive a stick shift in a Porsche 912E (1976) on a mountain top town in TN. We also had a 1978 bright red 928. It was AWESOME! Thw 912E was a total blast to drive up and down the winding mountain roads every day! Porsches are incredible.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
24. One of the most brilliant automotive designers of all time.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:03 AM
Apr 2012

The 911 is and has been an amazing car for nearly half a century.

You own a 928?? I have loved that car since the first time I saw one. You are a lucky dawg!

RIP, Herr Porsche.

flvegan

(64,407 posts)
30. Engine is still at the wrong end.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:29 AM
Apr 2012

Sorry, had to be said. All jokes aside, RIP. The 911 is a brilliant automobile.

Even if it is a Beetle.

I know, but I can't help myself.

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