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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:03 PM Jul 2014

Israeli university rebukes professor who expressed sympathy for both Israeli, Gazan victims

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Source: Haaretz

Prof. Hanoch Sheinman’s email was sent to reassure his second-year law students that because the security situation had disrupted many students’ routines, there would be an additional date scheduled for his course’s final exam. Sheinman opened the email, however, by saying that he hoped the message “finds you in a safe place, and that you, your families and those dear to you are not among the hundreds of people that were killed, the thousands wounded, or the tens of thousands whose homes were destroyed or were forced to leave their homes during, or as a direct result of, the violent confrontation in the Gaza Strip and its environs.”

Sheinman then proceeded to inform the students of the additional testing date.

Sheinman’s reference to the victims of the fighting with no reference to their national affiliation led many students to complain to the dean of the law faculty, Prof. Shahar Lifshitz, who issued an urgent message to the students yesterday. “I was shocked to learn of the email sent to you by Professor Sheinman,” Lifshitz wrote. “It was a hurtful letter, and since this morning we have been justifiably flooded with messages from students and family members, many of whom are involved during these very days in the battles in the south.”

Lifshitz added, “Both the content and the style of the letter contravene the values of the university and the law faculty. The faculty champions the values of pluralism, tolerance, and freedom of expression, but the inclusion of positions as were included in the administrative message sent by Prof. Sheinman to the students on a matter relating to exams does not fit into the framework of academic freedom or freedom of personal expression in any acceptable sense. This constitutes the inappropriate use of the power given to a lecturer to exploit the platform given to him as a law teacher to convey messages reflecting his positions, in a way that, as noted, seriously offended the students and their families.”

Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.607888



Not the Onion.

Note that that expressing sympathy for Palestinians draws greater outrage in Israel than does suggesting punitive rape against Palestinian women as an anti-terrorism tactic.
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Israeli university rebukes professor who expressed sympathy for both Israeli, Gazan victims (Original Post) geek tragedy Jul 2014 OP
The article is by subscripion only Mosby Jul 2014 #1
Heh. Care to comment on the substance? nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #2
The article is by subscripion only Mosby Jul 2014 #4
So, you also wish to see discussion of geek tragedy Jul 2014 #5
I clicked straight to the article with this link.... mike_c Jul 2014 #6
What a crass and blatant attempt to stifle the discussion. Not surprised in the least. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #9
So much for Israel being a democracy. Viva_Daddy Jul 2014 #3
Israel is outing itself as a deeply racist nation. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #7
Kedar's statement drew much more outrage oberliner Jul 2014 #8
From feminists. The university thought geek tragedy Jul 2014 #10
Respectfully disagree oberliner Jul 2014 #11
An expression of sympathy would draw at most geek tragedy Jul 2014 #12
Locking... cyberswede Jul 2014 #13

Mosby

(16,461 posts)
1. The article is by subscripion only
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:16 PM
Jul 2014

should be locked.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Heh. Care to comment on the substance? nt
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jul 2014

Mosby

(16,461 posts)
4. The article is by subscripion only
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:18 PM
Jul 2014
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. So, you also wish to see discussion of
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jul 2014

suffering on Gaza stifled.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
6. I clicked straight to the article with this link....
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:30 PM
Jul 2014
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
9. What a crass and blatant attempt to stifle the discussion. Not surprised in the least.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jul 2014

Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
3. So much for Israel being a democracy.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:18 PM
Jul 2014

"The faculty champions the values of pluralism, tolerance, and freedom of expression, but...." Not in MY Jewish democracy.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. Israel is outing itself as a deeply racist nation.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jul 2014
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. Kedar's statement drew much more outrage
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jul 2014

Feminist groups across Israel in particular spoke out strongly against those statements.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. From feminists. The university thought
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jul 2014

that was acceptable but considers treating Palestinians as human beings to be a thought crime.

The entire university community recoiled on horror at the idea of an implicit statement of sympathy for dead children. Because those dead children were of the wrong race and religion.

One was punished, the other defended.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Respectfully disagree
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jul 2014

The situation in the OP involved a prof adding his personal opinion on the conflict into an email about rescheduling an exam. I think regardless of his views, that isn't really something a professor should do. I think they would get a similar reprimand in the US.

As for Kedar - he was actually on a talk show, being asked his opinions - and made presented an offensive hypothetical to make a rhetorical point (or so he has later explained).

In any case, I don't think your characterization of "the entire university community recoiling in horror" is an accurate one. Probably a few right-wing students grumbled about the remark so and the teacher was told to keep his opinions to himself when contacted students about unrelated matters.

I could be wrong though - this is all conjecture on my part.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. An expression of sympathy would draw at most
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:49 PM
Jul 2014

a few people rolling their eyes in the US, not this kind of official censure.







cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
13. Locking...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jul 2014

I'm sorry, but the Hosts' consensus is that this isn't LBN.

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