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alp227

(32,047 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 06:42 PM Sep 2013

AIG CEO Says Outrage Over Wall Street Bonuses ‘Was Just As Wrong’ As Lynchings In The Deep South

Source: Think Progress

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, AIG CEO Bob Benmosche came out with the worst analogy for the 2009 financial crisis. Benmosche compared public outrage over AIG’s bonuses to the Deep South lynching African-Americans. “It was just as bad and just as wrong,” he said, because employees were used to a certain way of living:

“Now you have these bright young people (in the financial-products unit) who had nothing to do with (the bad bets that hurt the company.) … They understand the derivatives very well; they understand the complexity. … They’re all scared. They (had made) good livings. They probably lived beyond their means. …They aren’t going to stay there for nothing.

The uproar over bonuses “was intended to stir public anger, to get everybody out there with their pitch forks and their hangman nooses, and all that–sort of like what we did in the Deep South (decades ago). And I think it was just as bad and just as wrong.

It’s been five years since AIG was rescued with a $85 billion loan from the government after the mega-insurer mismanaged itself to near collapse, and it’s hard to see how they were victimized, let alone “lynched.” Since then, AIG has expressed its gratitude by paying executives $165 million in bonuses, briefly considering suing the government for more, and expressing disappointment AIG never received a “thank you” from government officials.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/24/2671131/aig-bonus-outrage-lynching/

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AIG CEO Says Outrage Over Wall Street Bonuses ‘Was Just As Wrong’ As Lynchings In The Deep South (Original Post) alp227 Sep 2013 OP
What a freak. They just do not get it. tofuandbeer Sep 2013 #1
they think of themselves as masters of the universe, but they are really spoiled crybabies yurbud Sep 2013 #94
Nor will they til they are prosecuted. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #104
I'm becoming increasingly convinced that it's a pathology. A brain disease. arcane1 Sep 2013 #109
:D tofuandbeer Sep 2013 #110
Can't even begin . . . enlightenment Sep 2013 #2
Let's make it true! Let's hang the malefactors! SharonAnn Sep 2013 #75
Well Bob, you see it's like this... Earth_First Sep 2013 #3
Very well said. Liberalynn Sep 2013 #7
Who does this AIG GUY think he is???? The SUN KING.... Theyletmeeatcake2 Sep 2013 #53
I mean, seriously Wall Street? You really believe you are the victims in this scenario? Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #68
Oh, they absolutely think they were the victims. TDale313 Sep 2013 #76
I have several things to say about your post. BillyRibs Sep 2013 #84
Unfortunately Bob, the many who were lynched never got to have their say... bluesbassman Sep 2013 #4
If Thousands Of Burnt Bankers Had Dangled Dead From Trees, Sir, He Might Have Had A Point The Magistrate Sep 2013 #5
Your John Kerry Moment, Magistrate Demeter Sep 2013 #32
Sounds like a good start... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #69
Sounds like a good place to start! BillyRibs Sep 2013 #85
Okay, now I need a cigarette FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #91
Update at link: Earth_First Sep 2013 #6
+1 Liberalynn Sep 2013 #9
+1 nt Xipe Totec Sep 2013 #24
He is absolutely right. Benmosche doesn't get it at all. Shrike47 Sep 2013 #36
+1 ! nt Overseas Sep 2013 #38
The company is Morally Bankrupt. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #41
A most excellent and appropriate response. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #46
I agree with Cummings - Benmosche should resign RainDog Sep 2013 #77
This line: Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #79
+1 He should resign. myrna minx Sep 2013 #105
That Scum won't quit warrant46 Sep 2013 #108
Words fail theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #8
Yes, they do! Hydra Sep 2013 #16
Words fail me, Brigid Sep 2013 #10
Strange Fruit Xipe Totec Sep 2013 #11
HEADLINE: AIG CEO Bob Benmosche Looks Gift Horse in Mouth.... sgtbenobo Sep 2013 #12
If you're going to make a comparison make one that's believable. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 #13
That fucking CEO has his head up his ass! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #14
his head should be on a pike frylock Sep 2013 #18
Not getting a bonus = getting hanged by a mob? Throd Sep 2013 #15
but, but they were USED TO getting bonuses... Thor_MN Sep 2013 #56
He's experienced not getting a bonus. Unless he's been lynched, he can't make the comparison. alfredo Sep 2013 #63
omg, they're the victim..wow. Look at what can happen when people get away with fraud. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #17
If we were lynchers we'd show him just what lynching is. Lynching wasn't metaphorical bullshit. ancianita Sep 2013 #19
That doesn't make any sense. These freaks are so removed from realty they broadcast every thought.. Tikki Sep 2013 #20
Absolutely clueless. This is what the system....... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #21
lol Love it. ctsnowman Sep 2013 #49
"I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth," OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #22
So which is it, Mr. President? Earth_First Sep 2013 #23
It's like the passive "Mistakes have been made" line. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #27
I don't begrudge anyone's success either. Beacool Sep 2013 #26
Lloyd is doing God's work!? Outrage over his bonus is like being crucified!? BillyRibs Sep 2013 #86
Now see... chervilant Sep 2013 #102
It doesn't surprise me. Beacool Sep 2013 #25
Breathtaking hubris. Lasher Sep 2013 #28
Didn't you know? sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #29
Wow, are the American people gonna take that? Ash_F Sep 2013 #30
What a ridiculous, clueless, pig. Squinch Sep 2013 #31
Wow I am speechless. iandhr Sep 2013 #33
oh how I wish Eliot Spitzer were the Attorney General rurallib Sep 2013 #34
Would you settle for getting tarred & feathered and run out of town on a rail, Mr. Benmosche? NBachers Sep 2013 #35
duyahh...... 1+1 equals eleventy two! Phlem Sep 2013 #37
If they lynched him ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #39
They should lynch him and Hubert Flottz Sep 2013 #60
Oh absolutely durablend Sep 2013 #40
Do they understand the word "bonus"???? RobertoRoberti Sep 2013 #42
Actually, some people's "bonus" was their annual salary. Beacool Sep 2013 #96
These fat cats are truly lower than pond scum. windsormich19454 Sep 2013 #43
AIG got $180 Billion bailout Octafish Sep 2013 #44
This ought to be the ultimate PR nightmare... CBHagman Sep 2013 #45
This argument is a transparent, very inadequate excuse for the sheer greed of it. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #47
Proof that such Stupid does NOT deserve Bonuses. nm Cha Sep 2013 #48
Not to ctsnowman Sep 2013 #50
Make no mistake, this is what we are up against. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #51
If that guy actually wants to know how it feels to be lynched, truebluegreen Sep 2013 #52
Pitchforks torches and rope (NT) The Wizard Sep 2013 #65
Go fuck yourself, Benny. City Lights Sep 2013 #54
He Should Be Fired erpowers Sep 2013 #55
This is an excellent example of class-sociopathy. He thinks that executives are ENTITLED rhett o rick Sep 2013 #57
A minority has feelings too packman Sep 2013 #58
Taxpayers to Benmosche. We want our money back. bklyncowgirl Sep 2013 #59
So Benmosche Thinks Bonuses Are An Entitlement DallasNE Sep 2013 #61
F him and his little poodles too! lark Sep 2013 #62
Seize his assets The Wizard Sep 2013 #64
.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #66
Yeah, people are so-o mean to rich people. tclambert Sep 2013 #67
Benmoshe sez "“I believe 'too big to fail' has been solved,” Agony Sep 2013 #70
At least this time, his being an unjustly entitled crook didn't cost us a bundle! nt dougolat Sep 2013 #87
If 90-percent Sep 2013 #71
re:AIG CEO Says Outrage Over Wall Street Bonuses ‘Was Just As Wrong’ As Lynchings In The Deep South allan01 Sep 2013 #72
revolting fishwax Sep 2013 #73
Emmit Till ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #74
Oh look, the most privileged white man thinks he's being lynched Scootaloo Sep 2013 #78
That is exactly how a plutocrat thinks. Rex Sep 2013 #80
Photographic proof right here: freshwest Sep 2013 #81
further proof that these trust fund babies have been so coddled, they wouldn't be able to wipe their yurbud Sep 2013 #82
Joseph Cassano, the guy who crashed the world. longship Sep 2013 #83
Weak chin, beady eyes, chervilant Sep 2013 #103
He better watch what he says rpannier Sep 2013 #88
The arrogance and sense of entitlement boggles the mind...nt raccoon Sep 2013 #89
What an idiot. blackspade Sep 2013 #90
I wasn't aware that any of the rich big boys had been lynched. radicalliberal Sep 2013 #92
I saw that title. I was going to post it and then thought - it is too poisonous. applegrove Sep 2013 #93
the plus side of this: it shows that Wall Street is TERRIFIED of the masses rising up against them. yurbud Sep 2013 #95
They have the militarized police forces. FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #97
Disgusting Joe Bacon Sep 2013 #98
CEOs like this are a cancer on our society cristianmarie533 Sep 2013 #99
Welcome to DU! alp227 Sep 2013 #100
I fully agree gopiscrap Sep 2013 #106
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #107
This has a dick cheney feel about it. BarbaRosa Sep 2013 #101
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
109. I'm becoming increasingly convinced that it's a pathology. A brain disease.
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:34 PM
Sep 2013

The statements in the OP are even too outrageous for the Onion!

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
3. Well Bob, you see it's like this...
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 06:52 PM
Sep 2013

First off, you're dead fucking wrong.

Secondly, you're dead fucking wrong.

In closing, you're still; dead fucking wrong.

P.S. Fuck You!

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
53. Who does this AIG GUY think he is???? The SUN KING....
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:01 AM
Sep 2013

It'd be nice if history repeated!!! About time people woke up to these rogues....we don't need them and their conniving schemes that just redistribute wealth upwards....just sack 'em ....the new people could not possibly do any worse...haven't the top ten hedge fund managers had bonuses exceeding $1,000,000,000 collectively....not bad work if you can get it....

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
68. I mean, seriously Wall Street? You really believe you are the victims in this scenario?
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 06:08 PM
Sep 2013

What Earth First said.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
76. Oh, they absolutely think they were the victims.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:22 PM
Sep 2013

Did nothing wrong and were scapegoated and unappreciated. We serfs just don't understand how rough they have it or how much they do for us. We should be grateful for the crumbs they haven't figured out how to steal yet.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
4. Unfortunately Bob, the many who were lynched never got to have their say...
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 06:53 PM
Sep 2013

You however not only survived your company's "lynchings", but continue to waste air by making asinine statements.

Please do us taxpayers who bailed your company out a favor and STFU.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
5. If Thousands Of Burnt Bankers Had Dangled Dead From Trees, Sir, He Might Have Had A Point
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 06:53 PM
Sep 2013

But as it is....

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
6. Update at link:
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 06:56 PM
Sep 2013

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), the ranking Democrat on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, released a statement Tuesday afternoon calling for Benmosche to resign from AIG, saying, “As the leading critic of AIG’s lavish spending before and after its taxpayer funded bailout—and as the son of sharecroppers who actually experienced lynchings in their communities—I find it unbelievably appalling that Mr. Benmosche equates the violent repression of the African American people with congressional efforts to prevent the waste of taxpayer dollars. If these statements are true, I believe he has demonstrated a fundamental inability to lead this modern global company in a responsible manner—a company that exists today only because it was rescued by the American taxpayers—and that he should resign his position as CEO immediately.”

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
36. He is absolutely right. Benmosche doesn't get it at all.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 09:36 PM
Sep 2013

Kind makes me want to hurt him, a feeling I do NOT enjoy.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
77. I agree with Cummings - Benmosche should resign
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:26 PM
Sep 2013

it is appalling that this entitled ass would have the nerve to make such a comparison - but, honestly, it indicates the total lack of empathy on the part of most of the wealthy in this nation - and the world.

it also demonstrates it's impossible to have a rational discussion with them about financial issues.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
79. This line:
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:15 PM
Sep 2013
I find it unbelievably appalling that Mr. Benmosche equates the violent repression of the African American people with congressional efforts to prevent the waste of taxpayer dollars.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
108. That Scum won't quit
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:30 PM
Sep 2013

In fact he is sitting at the Edge of the Public Trough ready for his next opportunity to swill Lotsa $$$$$

 

sgtbenobo

(327 posts)
12. HEADLINE: AIG CEO Bob Benmosche Looks Gift Horse in Mouth....
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 07:06 PM
Sep 2013

.... Then Jams it's Shoes Up it's ASS!

Film at 11.


Carry on.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
56. but, but they were USED TO getting bonuses...
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:07 AM
Sep 2013

just like serial killers and rapists are USED TO their crimes, we should be providing them with more victims, and saying thank you while we do...


just in case someone is clueless..

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
63. He's experienced not getting a bonus. Unless he's been lynched, he can't make the comparison.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 03:27 PM
Sep 2013

If he wants real life experience, I'm sure there's some homeless people would volunteer being his teacher.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. omg, they're the victim..wow. Look at what can happen when people get away with fraud.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 07:36 PM
Sep 2013

They're empowered and evidently live in a luxurious bubble.


K&R to expose the vile beast.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
20. That doesn't make any sense. These freaks are so removed from realty they broadcast every thought..
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 07:47 PM
Sep 2013

They will say the stupidest thing to try to justify. They are totally lacking any emotion except greed.


Tikki

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
21. Absolutely clueless. This is what the system.......
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 07:48 PM
Sep 2013

not only allows, but encourages. No wonder I'm a commie.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
22. "I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth,"
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 07:56 PM
Sep 2013

How ironic that a black President would say that about big bankers, who are absolute fucking scumbags that compare outrage over bonuses to lynching.

Obama: I 'don't begrudge people success or wealth'
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/02/obama-i-dont-begrudge-people-success-or-wealth/1#.UkIl9ihlpMK

President Obama -- the scourge of what he calls unearned Wall Street bonuses -- says he doesn't mind people who get rich through good work.

"I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth," Obama said in an interview Tuesday with Bloomberg BusinessWeek. "That's part of the free market system. I do think that the compensation package that we've seen over the last decade at least have not matched up always to performance."

Obama was responding to a question about new bonuses for Wall Street types Lloyd Blankfein ($9 million) and Jamie Dimon ($17 million). Obama said, "I know both those guys" and "they're very savvy businessmen."

...

Lloyd is doing God's work. Outrage over his bonus is like being crucified.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
23. So which is it, Mr. President?
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 08:22 PM
Sep 2013

"I do think that the compensation package that we've seen over the last decade at least have not matched up always to performance." 

"I know both those guys" and "they're very savvy businessmen."

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
27. It's like the passive "Mistakes have been made" line.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 08:42 PM
Sep 2013

Or an inverse straw man argument.

Somebody was overpaid who didn't deserve it, but not anybody who could be found.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
26. I don't begrudge anyone's success either.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 08:36 PM
Sep 2013

But these greedy bastards are succeeding by slaying the American workers. Their success comes with a very heavy price.

 

BillyRibs

(787 posts)
86. Lloyd is doing God's work!? Outrage over his bonus is like being crucified!?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 02:58 AM
Sep 2013

Do it, Crucify them! I am sick to my stomach! Hang all bankers and horse thieves!

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
102. Now see...
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 03:27 AM
Sep 2013
"I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth," Obama said in an interview Tuesday with Bloomberg BusinessWeek. "That's part of the free market system."


By his words, we should know him. I remain most disappointed in Obama's laissez faire attitude toward these criminal hedonists. "Free market system," my rear appendage! No wonder Obama doesn't listen to Krugman...

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
25. It doesn't surprise me.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 08:34 PM
Sep 2013

He's the same a-hole who said over a year ago that the governments of Europe and the US should consider raising the retirement age to 70 - 80 years old because people live longer now than in the past.

When he was the CEO of Met Life he outsourced around 10,000 jobs. I have heard from someone who worked there that the company hasn't been the same since. He was in retirement when the board of AIG offered him the job a couple of years ago. He is decimating the employees there too. They are quietly sending hundreds of jobs to the Philippines.

For his efforts, he was rewarded recently with a $13M bonus. The immorality of it all makes me sick!!!

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
29. Didn't you know?
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 08:56 PM
Sep 2013

Investment bankers were the real victims of the financial collapse, not the perps. And the Pope's a Protestant. And the Civil War wasn't about slavery. And (fill in the blank).

rurallib

(62,445 posts)
34. oh how I wish Eliot Spitzer were the Attorney General
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 09:33 PM
Sep 2013

wouldn't have seen any hangings, but I bet there would be some rich asses in jail right now.

RobertoRoberti

(30 posts)
42. Do they understand the word "bonus"????
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:35 PM
Sep 2013

In the real world, employees get a bonus when the company does well. It is supposed to reward their contribution to the company's extra success. I'll bet most Democrats don't begrudge anyone that.

A company that is bailed out is a failure. Nobody deserves a bonus. AIG's attitude is like coming in last place and expecting a Super Bowl ring. If we had a real free enterprise system, instead of a corporate welfare state, everyone would understand that implicitly. But we don't. That's why it's easier to take the pensions away from hardworking teachers and firefighters than to take the bonuses away from corporate failures.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
96. Actually, some people's "bonus" was their annual salary.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:52 PM
Sep 2013

They were paid a very small salary and the rest was dependent on performance, but the company never explained it properly to the public and people thought that these were bonuses given on top of a substantial salary. For example, one executive got paid $1, his $700K "bonus" was actually his annual compensation. What's more, AIG in the past never gave bonuses to the vast majority of their staff (only top management).

As for the current CEO, he's vile and disliked by most of the employees.

 
43. These fat cats are truly lower than pond scum.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 11:11 PM
Sep 2013

I wonder if such pricks know anything about the guillotine. They were used quite frequently by the French eons ago to teach such folk a hard lesson. So they'd better be careful to not piss us off too much....

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
45. This ought to be the ultimate PR nightmare...
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 11:21 PM
Sep 2013

...though that depends on how far the story gets, and how the company reacts, and of course whether the media (Fox News, anybody?) tries to spin this.

That said, I understand Benmosche's tenure as CEO dates from 2009, not earlier.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
47. This argument is a transparent, very inadequate excuse for the sheer greed of it.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:03 AM
Sep 2013

Millions of American kids go to ill-equipped schools in crowded classrooms. And since the economic meltdown, the schools have less money than even before. Millions of oher Americans lost their jobs. Many lost their homes. All thanks to Wall Street and the false security of the derivatives.

The privileged few who work for failed Wall Street firms, banks and AIG should have taken their cuts just like everyone else.

A lot of people just as talented and hard-working as the recipients of the Wall Street bonuses lost everything. What a greedy, self-centered bunch.

This argument only persuades those who got the bonuses. They certainly don't persuade anyone out in middle America.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
51. Make no mistake, this is what we are up against.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 06:40 AM
Sep 2013

I'd have some stories of my own, knowing some of those folks. Their general mindset has no room to think of us as humans.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
55. He Should Be Fired
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:37 AM
Sep 2013

I am all for free speech, but this is so stupid and insensitive that he needs to be fired. What happened in 2008 was nothing like the lynchings in the South. In the South, people were lynched for either just being black, or being white and fighting for causes that benefitted black people. In 2008 people were angry that people who had helped almost bring down the U.S. and world economies were getting bonuses after being bailed out by the government. I think the sentiment in the U.S. and the world was if your company nearly collapsed you should not get a bonus. In addition, people who were lynched actually died; none of the people on Wall Street died as a result of the outrage over their bonuses.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
57. This is an excellent example of class-sociopathy. He thinks that executives are ENTITLED
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:52 AM
Sep 2013

to large salaries irregardless of their performance. The capitalism god demands it.

His class doesnt want to kill us, they just dont care if we die. It would just be collateral damage of capitalism.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
58. A minority has feelings too
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:56 AM
Sep 2013

What a mind-set these people have to equate the horror of the deepest depths of human injustice to the milk-toast bonus uproar(and that is stretching it). Makes me shutter about the monsters who worship themselves and the dollar who control so much of our economy. Then again, the 1% are a minority and they must (SARCASM) feel something toward other minorities.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
59. Taxpayers to Benmosche. We want our money back.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:21 AM
Sep 2013

The nerve. The absolute nerve.

It does give you an idea of how these people think though. We are less than the dog shit their valets scrape off their shoes.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
61. So Benmosche Thinks Bonuses Are An Entitlement
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:51 PM
Sep 2013

How else can one explain his support of those lavish bonuses. Certainly not "because employees were used to a certain way of living". Well, why shouldn't they be expected to tighten their belts the same as everybody else (except for the 1% that never have to tighten their belts). Benmosche needs to show a little humility so I would like to suggest that the take the food stamp challenge and live for a week of $4.50 a day for food. That is the real world for far too many Americans. And Republicans just voted to cut that amount down. The 1% certainly need an attitude adjustment if Benmosche is a typical 1%'er as I suspect he is.

lark

(23,155 posts)
62. F him and his little poodles too!
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:40 PM
Sep 2013

Oh, my heart just breaks, sob, they were used to certain lifestyles" What a heartless and stupidly ignorant SOB. What about all the people who lost their jobs because his company was the leading force in devaluing the american economy? What about the average worker making less money than they did in 1977? What about all the foreclosures, divorces, suicides, illnesses and probably deaths they caused? Oh, this is just beyond the pale. I'm supposed to feel sorry for some poor little millionaire? A lot of them should be in jail and I'm angry as hell for our government bailing them out with my and all the other working class folks' money. He can just stifle himself.

The Wizard

(12,547 posts)
64. Seize his assets
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 03:47 PM
Sep 2013

and jail his family until he refunds taxpayer money he took as a reward for failure.
Fraud by any other name...............

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
67. Yeah, people are so-o mean to rich people.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 05:50 PM
Sep 2013

Those executives suffered so much. They nearly ran their corporations into financial ruin, and nearly wrecked the economy of the whole world. That had to make them feel bad. On top of all that, a bunch of insensitive people who clearly don't understand high finance (because they're poor) tried to make these executives feel like they didn't deserve their multi-million dollar bonuses. Bad poor people. Bad.

Clearly we ought to do something to help them feel better. Hey, maybe we could give them some MORE money. I bet they'd like that.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
70. Benmoshe sez "“I believe 'too big to fail' has been solved,”
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 06:18 PM
Sep 2013

Benmoshe is a serial sociopathic asshole

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22/robert-benmosche-too-big-to-fail_n_3972297.html
“I believe 'too big to fail' has been solved,” Benmosche told the Wall Street Journal in a wide-ranging interview published Friday. He said that's because regulators and the financial firms themselves have put controls in place to prevent bankers and traders from taking the same types of risks they took in the lead-up to the financial crisis.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Blogs/Business-Buzz/2012/02/28/The-Infuriating-Inexcusable-AIG-Tax-Deal
American International Group, the infamous insurance company that got $85 billion in government bailout money in 2008 and promptly spent $440,000 on a corporate retreat, is going to make your blood boil again. After receiving a second, equally generous loan in 2009, AIG management had the unmitigated gall to announce that the same executives who insured toxic assets like mortgage-backed securities would get $165 million in "retention bonuses." - See more at: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Blogs/Business-Buzz/2012/02/28/The-Infuriating-Inexcusable-AIG-Tax-Deal#sthash.JMRFHqT5.dpuf

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/09/why-is-aig-being-permitted-to-retrade-its-deal-with-taxpayers-yet-again.html
But AIG was able to slip the leash. Its cheery assurances that it could divest divisions proved hollow. It came back to Uncle Sam and managed to get both more money and a reduction in interest rate. In deal land, this is called a free concession and is a sign of chumpdom (the Treasury press releases tried to imply that the government got more, but when you already have a senior lien on all the assets, there’s nothing more to get, save maybe throwing out the board, which would have been a good gesture). The argument was that the interest payments would damage AIG, but all that suggested was that the interest payments be deferred, not reduced. Oh, and in case you weren’t paying attention, the financial deal was retraded not once, but three times.
Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/09/why-is-aig-being-permitted-to-retrade-its-deal-with-taxpayers-yet-again.html#dK9YiRVDxmHrAc1U.99

Cheers anyway...
Agony

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
71. If
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:22 PM
Sep 2013

If ever there was a just case for lynching, this guy would have been mobbed to death already.

Well, woopsie, a little of the primitive animal instinct still inside me boiled over.

But these morally bankrupt that cause so much needless misery and waste should be punished severely enough that it becomes a teaching moment for them all and they voluntarily imprison themselves rather than suffer vigilante justice.

yeah, kinda ugly. making point is all.

-90% Jimmy

allan01

(1,950 posts)
72. re:AIG CEO Says Outrage Over Wall Street Bonuses ‘Was Just As Wrong’ As Lynchings In The Deep South
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:46 PM
Sep 2013

first off we bail aigs sorry ass out of debt , then the assholes have the unmetigated gall to turn around and sue the us because the assholes wanted more .shoulda not have bailed the sops out . next time , there wont be any next time , u greedy sons of a bitch.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
78. Oh look, the most privileged white man thinks he's being lynched
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:33 PM
Sep 2013

Because of the prospect that he might have to curb some tiny fraction of that privilege.

If this man were on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to put him out. Maybe if my kidneys produced kerosene...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
80. That is exactly how a plutocrat thinks.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:23 AM
Sep 2013

I am the richest and therefore I am the most privileged.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
81. Photographic proof right here:
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:25 AM
Sep 2013
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It gets worse:



Bad DU, bad!



Y'all are just plain mean!



Please, stop abusing these poor guys.



BTW, will rich white guys ever stop trying to get a free ride off of blacks and the civil rights movement?




yurbud

(39,405 posts)
82. further proof that these trust fund babies have been so coddled, they wouldn't be able to wipe their
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:36 AM
Sep 2013

own asses if their valet was out sick.

longship

(40,416 posts)
83. Joseph Cassano, the guy who crashed the world.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:43 AM
Sep 2013

Guess who he worked for?

Yup! That's right. AIG! They sold credit default swaps (CDS), an insurance on the mortgage bonds that paid off if the bond defaulted. The Wall Street Banks then repackaged the CDS's into new mortgage bonds since the CDS effectively duplicated the risk of the original mortgages. They did this because they made huge amounts of commission and bonusses on bond sales and the mortgage originators couldnt supply enough product. Cassano, the head of AIG FP, sold so many credit default swaps to the Wall Street banks that when housing prices collapsed and the mortgages began going into default when their teaser rates expired, a huge number of the credit default swaps came due, all at once. If AIG can't honor those insurance payments the Wall Street Banks book losses on the bonds based on those CDS's at the same time. The whole world economy collapses within days. We were that close to the edge of a very real cliff in Sept-Oct 2008.

And here is the douche bag himself:


How this guy isn't in prison for life is beyond me. (Along with Fuld, Dimon, Blankfein, Mack, Lewis, Pandit, and the rest of the thugs.)

rpannier

(24,337 posts)
88. He better watch what he says
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:13 AM
Sep 2013

He might find out just how bad those lynchings were from the limb itself

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
92. I wasn't aware that any of the rich big boys had been lynched.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:18 PM
Sep 2013


How can anyone be so stupid as to make a statement like that?

As far as stupid statements go, you'll think you've heard it all; but someone in the news will eventually let you know otherwise.

applegrove

(118,770 posts)
93. I saw that title. I was going to post it and then thought - it is too poisonous.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:24 PM
Sep 2013

The selfishness of that ***hole.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
95. the plus side of this: it shows that Wall Street is TERRIFIED of the masses rising up against them.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:59 PM
Sep 2013

The public barely cleared their throat on exec compensation and it was definitely a legit concern especially after the bailout.

They know what many of us don't: if we get our shit together and get organized, they can't bribe enough politicians or hire enough thugs to keep us from removing them from the levers of power.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
97. They have the militarized police forces.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:42 PM
Sep 2013

Essentially, they've already hired their own thugs.

And those thugs have access to weapons that can inflict pain on a whole crowd at once.

 

cristianmarie533

(51 posts)
99. CEOs like this are a cancer on our society
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:56 AM
Sep 2013

These people only care about the bottom line, and could care less if we all end up eating dirt and drinking poisoned water. These assholes need to be taxed at a rate of least 90%.

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