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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:14 PM Jul 2013

Chris Christie Hits Back At Rand Paul Remark On Sandy Aid

Source: Huffington Post

LITTLE FERRY, N.J. -- New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie doesn't appear to want his war of words with Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul to end anytime soon. Christie fired back at Paul on Tuesday for Paul's remark that New Jersey has a "Gimme, gimme, gimme" attitude about federal aid for Superstorm Sandy.

Paul said at a fundraiser in Nashville on Sunday that Christie and New York Rep. Peter King – both Republicans like Paul – "are the people who are bankrupting the government and not letting enough money be left over for national defense." Speaking at a news conference to announce homeowner grants for northern New Jersey residents affected by Sandy, Christie said he "has nothing personal" against Paul but offered the following:

"I find it interesting that Sen. Paul is accusing us of having a "Gimme, gimme, gimme" attitude toward federal spending when in fact New Jersey is a donor state and we get 61 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington. Interestingly, Kentucky gets $1.51 on every dollar they send to Washington," he said. "So if Sen. Paul wants to start looking at where he's going to cut spending to afford defense, maybe he should start looking at the pork barrel spending he brings home to Kentucky."

The spat between the two Republicans many consider potential 2016 presidential hopefuls began when they differed over warrantless surveillance programs. Paul is against them, while Christie says they are needed for national security.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/30/chris-christie-rand-paul_n_3677558.html



Munch munch munch... Eat Your Own.
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Chris Christie Hits Back At Rand Paul Remark On Sandy Aid (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2013 OP
Christie is tool for the NSA. Rand is just a tool... think Jul 2013 #1
. LeftofObama Jul 2013 #2
Scoot over a little bit, I'll join you. tanyev Jul 2013 #6
popcorn please eom LittleGirl Jul 2013 #15
Hey you guys got room me! Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #22
Got enough room on the couch for a big bodied weightlifter Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #47
Do you think they'll start eating their young soon? Squinch Jul 2013 #46
Oh yeah! Ilsa Jul 2013 #17
Governor & Senator, Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #3
Doesn't endear him to me JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #4
Buono, the only honest politician running for Governor here... DainBramaged Jul 2013 #10
I won't be joining either man's fan club BUT at least Christie had the decency and the matthews Jul 2013 #11
No, but the pissing match is fun to watch. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #27
Hmm, second time in about a week customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #5
Hiss! Rowwrrr! The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #7
He forgot to add "just sayin". Kber Jul 2013 #8
"Ay." Doc Holliday Jul 2013 #36
Don't forget "Check out dis fuckin' guy!" Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #48
"With all due respect" name not needed Aug 2013 #62
Cage match, guess who wins? DainBramaged Jul 2013 #9
"Cut Kentucky's Republican Socialist Welfare payola" - Honest, Honorable Americans Berlum Jul 2013 #12
Pass the popcorn over here sakabatou Jul 2013 #13
I am guessing Ms. Clinton would agree with Gov Christie on government spying. I would hope not, rhett o rick Jul 2013 #14
I made my choice Christie wins sorry Paulie BrainMann1 Jul 2013 #16
I may hate Chris, but DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #18
Bullsh*t. juajen Jul 2013 #28
Oh, drama -- this is a setup rocktivity Jul 2013 #19
Someone please pass the popcorn. This is going to get good. I got my money on Christie. southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #20
I agree. Christie is a wolf, Paul is like of a weasel. MissMarple Jul 2013 #25
Yes that description is right on target with Paul southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #31
He's a sniveling little piece of tweed. Him and that God awful hair helmet rat he puts on his head. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #49
It's an ideological fight for the place where the GOP soul should be. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #21
They have souls? lark Jul 2013 #50
The idelogy is where the soul SHOULD be. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #51
Crazy Idea Blue Silent Majority Aug 2013 #54
Your right a crazy idea. William769 Aug 2013 #55
I don't want a Republican either. Blue Silent Majority Aug 2013 #57
I can tell you right now that will never happen under a republican President. William769 Aug 2013 #58
Yes It did teach me something. Blue Silent Majority Aug 2013 #59
Well I for one will not hold by breath waiting for that day. William769 Aug 2013 #60
I'm assisting a Republican council member in Orange County, CA SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #61
It's a good response, but Christie is the typical Republican because spooky3 Jul 2013 #23
A principled stand, no. Doc Holliday Jul 2013 #38
There is no tub of popcorn big enough for this. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #24
Lawrence O'Donnell made that point the other night. I had a feeling CC would run with it. nt Snotcicles Jul 2013 #26
DeeeeLishOUS!!! B Stieg Jul 2013 #29
+1 and desperately needed to be said! freshwest Jul 2013 #43
Christie is right but they both suck right to their core. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #30
Maybe their bickering will escalate into a duel with pistols at dawn........ TheDebbieDee Jul 2013 #32
Popcorn, get your fresh popcorn!!! cstanleytech Jul 2013 #33
needs more butter SummerSnow Jul 2013 #34
I will take a break from pushing publicly financed elections to sit back and enjoy the show! Dustlawyer Jul 2013 #35
We'll need a Christie-size tub of popcorn for this one, drenched in butter. Mmmmm, good. Hekate Jul 2013 #37
My money is on Christie that he crushes the little bagger twerp. Historic NY Jul 2013 #39
Yeah, Christie's for something. Cha Jul 2013 #40
Seriously I think someone should organize a boxing match between the two davidpdx Jul 2013 #41
If St. Paul is as skilled at fighting as he is as a public speaker... Norbert Jul 2013 #42
Between him hugging PBO and this, I'm starting to like him: freshwest Jul 2013 #44
Tie their left wrists together and drop a knife on the floor. tclambert Jul 2013 #45
I wish we could lock them both in a room together ... MurrayDelph Jul 2013 #52
Why dont we give these clowns what they want...cut all government funding to red states,.. Vietnameravet Jul 2013 #53
Rand Paul shouldn't have been talking shit about NJ like that. Quantess Aug 2013 #56

JustAnotherGen

(31,803 posts)
4. Doesn't endear him to me
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jul 2013

I'm still voting for Buono come November. But I'm glad he put the little shit in his place and pointed out the obvious . . . Oh what we could have done had that money stayed here in the first place.

And this is why (this differentiation) I think Christie could get blue states to vote for him in a general election. All he needs is his friend Rove to fix the primaries so he gets to be the candidate. . .

 

matthews

(497 posts)
11. I won't be joining either man's fan club BUT at least Christie had the decency and the
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jul 2013

good sense to acknowledge the help Obama gave him after Sandy.

Rank Paul is such a buffoon, he'd have spit on Obama's shoes and told him he was lucky for the spit shine. Paul is one of those guys who couldn't be decent even when it would be in his best interests. He's just a nasty big of goods, he is. He honestly creeps me out.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. Hmm, second time in about a week
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jul 2013

that Christie has reacted to Paul, who everyone knows is running in 2016. To me, a clear sign that Christie himself has now decided that he's also in the running.

Should be interesting when this gets to Iowa.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
8. He forgot to add "just sayin".
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jul 2013

In Jersey, that excuses most insults.

Alternatively, you can say "no offense". As in "you're one weaselly little prick. No offense."

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
12. "Cut Kentucky's Republican Socialist Welfare payola" - Honest, Honorable Americans
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jul 2013

"Cut, cut, cut. Rand Paul and his MOOCHER Kentucky RepubliCronies are slurping like obese HOGS at the federal trough. Cut cut cut. Freaking Socialism for the Rich RepubliWankers totally sucks." - Decent Folk

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. I am guessing Ms. Clinton would agree with Gov Christie on government spying. I would hope not,
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jul 2013

but we'll see.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
18. I may hate Chris, but
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jul 2013

Considering the GOP bows to Old Dixie, and that he will be down there looking for votes come 2016, it took genuine guts to point at the Elephant in the Room, that Dixie gets a lot more from the North than she gives back. I wish some of our folks would say the same thing, but then again, we keep having to look for people from Dixie to run (including a certain former Wal mart executive who lives in New York, but spent most of her life in Arkansas with her husband.)

juajen

(8,515 posts)
28. Bullsh*t.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jul 2013

She grew up in Illinois and spent her young adult life in college and then was in Arkansas for the years that Bill was Governor, and in between, maybe 12 years or so. Since she is in her mid 60's, that would mean that most of her life was spent in Illinois, Washington, DC, and New York, and that doesn't count her college years, which were also up North.

As to Wal mart, as First Lady of Arkansas, it would have been a slap in the face not to accept a seat on the Board of Directors of their most important industry. She's smart, not stupid.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
19. Oh, drama -- this is a setup
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jul 2013

to create the illusion that Christie has McCain-esque moderate maverick chops...


rocktivity

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
20. Someone please pass the popcorn. This is going to get good. I got my money on Christie.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 05:27 PM
Jul 2013

He is a mean SOB and will tell you to your face. While that sneaky redneck from Kentucky will do things behind your back.

lark

(23,091 posts)
50. They have souls?
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:39 PM
Jul 2013

You'd never know that listening to Cruz, Rand, Gomert, Ryan, et al. They do an excellent imitation (?) of not giving a shit about anyone not part of the 1%, if they do have souls. Women, poor people, gay folks, minorities, working people - they hate all the 99%.

54. Crazy Idea
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:01 PM
Aug 2013

Speaking of an ideological fight in the Republican Party, I had a crazy idea. We all know that Chris Christie is a conservative Republican and nobody here wants to see him become President. However Christie is not a total tea-bagger wacko like Rand Paul or Paul Ryan. So this leads me to a crazy idea. Let’s say Christie were to win the White House in 2016. Maybe, just maybe Christie will draw right-leaning moderate voters back to the GOP who will then slowly put the squeeze the super-conservative nut job voters (who are dying off anyway) thus allowing the Republican party to move to the center. With a more centrist GOP, the Democratic party could then move to the left, hopefully with the help of legal immigrants from Latin America, becoming far more progressive giving disenfranchised liberal voters (like us) candidates we might actually want to vote for. Imagine undoing the damage done by the so-called “Reagan Revolution” in 1980 and Bill Clinton’s “Third Way” that moved the Democratic Party too close to the center in 1992.

A president Christie just may lead to a major party realignment. After all it would be nice if the two major parties actually reflected the political views of the American People.

William769

(55,144 posts)
55. Your right a crazy idea.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:25 PM
Aug 2013

I don't want any fucking republican anywhere near the Whitehouse. They are all bat-shit crazy. It's one of the requirements to be a republican.

57. I don't want a Republican either.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:59 PM
Aug 2013

The Republican party in in its current "bat-shit crazy" state is not sustainable. Inevitably the two parties will realign, I was just offering a possible path to realignment. I think there are a lot of people on DU (I've lurked here for a while) would love to see a more progressive Democratic Party.

Look at it this way. If we were to get say, single payer healthcare, a living wage and a tax system that's actually fair for the poor and the middle class would you care what party was in control of the House or the Senate when each bill passed? Would you care if the President was a Democrat, Republican or a Whig as long as he/she signed those bills into law?

William769

(55,144 posts)
58. I can tell you right now that will never happen under a republican President.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:08 PM
Aug 2013

The sooner you realize that, the better off you will be. Has their last presidential primary taught you anything?

59. Yes It did teach me something.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:21 PM
Aug 2013

The Republican party can't go on much longer in its current form. the tea bag movement is falling apart and with more and more Americans identifying their religion as "none" the Christian Right will soon collapse. Not to mention that fact that the racist old white male Fox News watchers who have been voting Republican all these years are dying off. I know its hard to see it now but in the coming years the Republican Party will either change or be replaced.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
61. I'm assisting a Republican council member in Orange County, CA
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 12:54 AM
Aug 2013

Our city has been targeted by the same people who advise the Walker Adm. of Wisconsin and his approach to governance. Meaning firing public employees and bad mouthing Republicans who disagree with their radical movement. There is no welcome for even rational Republicans in the party. Democrats are practically dismissed as being pathetic because we object to taking away what we've had all this time - public workers and good pensions. They also intend to buy up the city for private development. Our nonpartisan group has no financial power or high profile backing. We're fighting this machine on our own.

Turns out that uneducated goons and thugs are handling their PR campaign. They call their own Republican a liar, and worse. She is standing strong and fighting them and I'm trying to help. Democrats couldn't get on to the council this past election. Up until 2008 the only Democrat on the council was married to a firefighter and had the support of the public workers, who the GOP is successfuly trying to get rid of.

It's a horrible situation which some Republican residents disapprove of, but with their PR and given the backing of the OC GOP and probably the Koch Bros, they will likely succeed. We are trying to fight the barrage of lies and persistent efforts to steal our city out from under us. Their aim is reaching angry Republican voters who've come to HATE Democrats and democratic ideals and convincing them to trust them with their city. Meaning - Don't trust Democrats with anything.

spooky3

(34,434 posts)
23. It's a good response, but Christie is the typical Republican because
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jul 2013

they are more than happy to push for government assistance when it is a problem that hits home for them personally or professionally. This should not be mistaken for a principled stand.

Doc Holliday

(719 posts)
38. A principled stand, no.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

But at least it's acknowledging reality.

At least Christie's not one of those "taxes are eeeevil" morons, of which the GOP already has a surplus.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
35. I will take a break from pushing publicly financed elections to sit back and enjoy the show!
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jul 2013

I say Christie will win this war of words easily! He has a "smart mouth" as my mom used to say (won't say who she would say it to, but he later became the attorney of the family)! Christie was either good enough, or smart enough, to stand with Obama during the disaster and pull together. I believe he helped rather than hindered disaster policy implementation. Paul is a cheap knock off of his dad. Dad at least takes predictable principled stances, son not so much! He will stand on principle where it suits him and change with the wind when it doesn't. If Kentucky had a big natural disaster, Rand would use it as an opportunity to politicize and grab the money. Rand is a small, petty man!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
41. Seriously I think someone should organize a boxing match between the two
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:11 AM
Jul 2013

for charity. Christie would do it, but I doubt Paul has the balls to accept.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
42. If St. Paul is as skilled at fighting as he is as a public speaker...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:33 AM
Jul 2013

...he would be a grease spot in a millisecond.

The teabagger movement is circling the drain. A Christie nomination over this shit head in 2016 will flush the 'baggers down where they belong.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
44. Between him hugging PBO and this, I'm starting to like him:
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:15 AM
Jul 2013
"I find it interesting that Sen. Paul is accusing us of having a "Gimme, gimme, gimme" attitude toward federal spending when in fact New Jersey is a donor state and we get 61 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington. Interestingly, Kentucky gets $1.51 on every dollar they send to Washington," he said.

"So if Sen. Paul wants to start looking at where he's going to cut spending to afford defense, maybe he should start looking at the pork barrel spending he brings home to Kentucky."

That should go VIRAL.

My new one for answering Dittohead Teabaggers:


'You say minimum wage, unions, worker rights and certain people voting are bad for business. Good news, there's a tried and proven economic model that will suit you fine, then.

It's called slavery. Great for business, it was. Keep on voting for those selling that stuff and you and your kids will get there.'

They all end up looking like this, though...



And then there's the need for a dust pan to clean up the brain matter...

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
52. I wish we could lock them both in a room together ...
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:49 PM
Jul 2013

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Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
53. Why dont we give these clowns what they want...cut all government funding to red states,..
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 05:11 PM
Jul 2013

Let the blues keep their money and dont give anything to the reds...I mean why in hell are we so determined to send them aid when all they do is complain and use it against us??

I just dont get it.....are we just as crazy as them?

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