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struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:20 PM Jun 2013

FBI insists Michael Hastings was not under investigation

Source: LA Times

By Andrew Blankstein and Brian Bennett
June 20, 2013, 3:23 p.m.

... The bureau responded in a statement: "At no time was journalist Michael Hastings ever under investigation by the FBI."

The FBI's statement comes as officials with the Los Angeles Police Department said that there appears to be no foul play in the one-vehicle accident that killed Hastings.

Officials still are trying to determine whether there was a mechanical problem with the car, if Hastings may have had a medical condition, or if he consumed substances that could have impaired his driving. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity ...




Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-fbi-insists-michael-hastings-was-not-under-investigation-20130620,0,2381330.story

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FBI insists Michael Hastings was not under investigation (Original Post) struggle4progress Jun 2013 OP
The LAPD worked fast! Nothing to see here....we have analyzed the snappyturtle Jun 2013 #1
The mechanical investigation of the auto will take a while, and so will complete autopsy results struggle4progress Jun 2013 #4
Thank you for your well reasoned response! nt snappyturtle Jun 2013 #6
They haven't said that. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #14
And we all know how reliable the FBI talking points always are...lol Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #2
I guess if the President is under control of space aliens, people would deny that too, but the fact struggle4progress Jun 2013 #5
and even if he was,they'd never admit it. They_Live Jun 2013 #3
What? You expected different? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #7
How convenient. Please explain then why he thought he was under surveillance? NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #8
The US has a system of divided government. The accident investigation here struggle4progress Jun 2013 #10
We actually never heard that from him leftynyc Jun 2013 #19
The truth. Nothing but the truth. But not the WHOLE truth: Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #28
We don't know the whole truth leftynyc Jun 2013 #32
Oh my 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #9
There isn't much mystery to Hastings's death thus far. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #11
Yes. The FBI and LAPD have said there is "nothing to see here" 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #23
It was a high speed car crash. Not terribly mysterious. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #25
Petreaus had Hastings killed! Kolesar Jun 2013 #27
What does the Coroner have to say? Ford_Prefect Jun 2013 #12
They've ID'd the body via fingerprints; final autopsy results are some weeks away struggle4progress Jun 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15
Oh they ALWAYS lie treestar Jun 2013 #18
Apparently not boring enough to compel you to promptly pound on your back-button 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #22
Doesn't the speedometer freeze... ReRe Jun 2013 #20
Speedometer is probably electronic AngryAmish Jun 2013 #31
I really hope the FBI is being honest blackspade Jun 2013 #16
that won't mean a thing to the loons who have already decided treestar Jun 2013 #17
Ahem... ReRe Jun 2013 #21
That joke is typical of the cheerleaders here U4ikLefty Jun 2013 #35
Speaking of closed minds... Ford_Prefect Jun 2013 #24
Counterpoint: will those who are 'just asking questions' ever decide that geek tragedy Jun 2013 #26
Video of Hasting's car speeding through intersection Progressive dog Jun 2013 #29
Neither was the AP or Rosen AngryAmish Jun 2013 #30
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #33
I confess: paid government trolls actually pulled his car into that tree using a tractor beam struggle4progress Jun 2013 #34

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
1. The LAPD worked fast! Nothing to see here....we have analyzed the
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jun 2013

gazillion pieces the car blew into and everything points to no foul play.

Wouldn't you think they'd at least have the decency to act like they've
put some time and thought into this thorough investigation. imho

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
4. The mechanical investigation of the auto will take a while, and so will complete autopsy results
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:46 PM
Jun 2013

but they've got folk who've seen a lot of auto wrecks and who would note anything grossly abnormal

A bombed car, for example, probably doesn't usually look like a car that just lost control and smashed into a tree. A headless body with no hands in the driver's seat might also raise suspicions. The statement means they aren't seeing so far anything really unexpected

Lefty Nast

(61 posts)
2. And we all know how reliable the FBI talking points always are...lol
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jun 2013

The truth remains to be seen if it is ever revealed

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
5. I guess if the President is under control of space aliens, people would deny that too, but the fact
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jun 2013

that people deny it if asked does very little to prove its true

NoodleyAppendage

(4,619 posts)
8. How convenient. Please explain then why he thought he was under surveillance?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jun 2013

Sometimes just because you may be suspicious/paranoid, doesn't mean that you might not be correct. This one smell too fishy.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
10. The US has a system of divided government. The accident investigation here
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:09 AM
Jun 2013

appears to be a local matter, under the control of the LAPD, and as the LAPD does not answer (say) to the FBI, the FBI has no power to force the LAPD to issue false statements. The current LAPD statement indicates that the first impression, of their experts, is that this is a common accident with no obvious indications of foul play. The FBI statement, issued independently, further undermines various currently-floated conspiracy theories

I have no idea why Mr Hastings would think he was under surveillance, nor do I know for a fact that he was or was not. Absent evidence to the contrary, however, I see no particular reason to doubt the FBI statement

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. We actually never heard that from him
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:11 AM
Jun 2013

We're hearing it from the lawyer representing Julian Assange.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
23. Yes. The FBI and LAPD have said there is "nothing to see here"
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:46 AM
Jun 2013

And everyone knows they ALWAYS tell the truth about such things.

I guess you're right. No mysteries here.

Ford_Prefect

(7,927 posts)
12. What does the Coroner have to say?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jun 2013
Law enforcement sources said the car appeared to be going at a high rate of speed but emphasized that the investigation was ongoing.


It seems they have not concluded yet.
Would like to hear just how fast the car was traveling.

Response to struggle4progress (Reply #13)

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
20. Doesn't the speedometer freeze...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:26 AM
Jun 2013

at the speed the car is going on impact? Did I say that right? Also, there's that black box under the front seat. Have they said anything about it yet? There is no way this investigation is over.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. that won't mean a thing to the loons who have already decided
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:39 AM
Jun 2013

they've made up their minds! The Feds did it!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
21. Ahem...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:33 AM
Jun 2013

... your joke was uncalled for, treestar. Please refrain from frivolity on this thread, OK? Most of us are very saddened at the death of this bright young man.

Ford_Prefect

(7,927 posts)
24. Speaking of closed minds...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:39 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Evidently Treestar has decided in the absence of fact that only one conclusion can be drawn and that any other represents a departure from reality. It would be convenient if he were right. In the end it may even make sense that it was only an accident- Driver loses control of car at speed, hits tree and death ensues. Perhaps that is indeed all that happened.

http://ktla.com/2013/06/21/exclusive-details-on-an-email-michael-hastings-sent-just-hours-before-his-death/#axzz2Wq8zwRvg

Given that the man who died was involved in the public discussion of facts about those who insist their activities not be seen it is reasonable to be curious about the facts of the accident and how they might possibly represent more than what they appear to at the moment.

It is certainly far too easy to assume there is much more here than may prove to be true. I haven't referred to drones, black ops or black helicopters. However I don't think it is worthwhile to waste further time on those who assume there is nothing here to be curious about.

There are good and obvious reasons to ask why and how it happened and who may have had an interest in the outcome.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-michael-hastings-jill-kelly-case-20130620,0,2559316.story

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
26. Counterpoint: will those who are 'just asking questions' ever decide that
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:15 AM
Jun 2013

the assassination hypothesis is without evidence and not plausible?

Or will they continue to be suspicious and refuse to recognize that this was an accident?

Keep in mind that a lot of people here think Bush shot down Paul Wellstone's plane.

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
34. I confess: paid government trolls actually pulled his car into that tree using a tractor beam
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jun 2013

so the public would be misled into thinking that space aliens engineered the murder

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